On Wednesday 19 September 2001 00.00, Ed Harrison wrote:

** Reply to message from Anders Johansson on Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:45:36 +0200

# Which values are which in these measurements? In the BIOS PC Health section, # I get a CPU temp of just under 50 degrees with my Athlon 1GHz/Epox mobo, but # in KDEs sysguard I get CPU temp 33 degrees and Sys-temp 47. And something # called Sbr_temp 25 degrees. Which values do I trust, if any, and what do # those values measure?

I have an ASUS K7M and based on what I see on my MB is that you probably do not have a sensor on the CPU (self-adhesive add-on not shipped from the factory) nor on the SouthBRidge. Hardware sensors can be compiled into a SuSE provided kernel, at least the last 2 or 3 in the 2.4.x series have been patched with i2c modules.

Hi, Well, the BIOS gives me readings for temperature on CPU and motherboard, som some sort of sensors are installed. And yes, I have the i2c sensors modules installed as well. My question was more on how I interpret the values. Depending on where I look, I see different values, and different descriptions of those values (bios, ksysguard, gkrellm), and the Epox manual doesn't make me any the wiser. Anders

please don't abandon this thread. it is appropriate and useful. i assume that many in the linux avant garde are o.g. gearheads like me. thanks- larry Alan Lenton wrote:

Guys,

Now you figured out who is interested do you think you could take the Asus boards discussion to somewhere more appropriate?

Thanks

alan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Johansson" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Re: Asus mainboards

| Which values are which in these measurements? In the BIOS PC Health section, | I get a CPU temp of just under 50 degrees with my Athlon 1GHz/Epox mobo, but | in KDEs sysguard I get CPU temp 33 degrees and Sys-temp 47. And something | called Sbr_temp 25 degrees. Which values do I trust, if any, and what do | those values measure? | | Anders | | On Tuesday 18 September 2001 13.15, Guy Van Sanden wrote: | > Hello Simon | > | > Indeed, same as mine. My wife has an Athlon 1.333 on an Elite | > motherboard running at 34°C idle under Linux. | > And yes, it affects Win2K too, all OS or tools (like rain) that | > generate HLT instructions to cool the CPU... | > | > Kind regards | > | > Guy | > | > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< | > | > On 18/09/2001, 12:00:20, Simon Neil x1798 | > | > wrote regarding Asus mainboards: | > > Hi Guy, | > > | > > Just got a message from a friend of mine about these boards | > | > running hot. | > | > > I've got an A7V133 (flashed BIOS from 1003 to 1005a) with | > | > Athlon 1.3GHz, | > | > > 266MHz fsb. The processor runs at 57-59 degrees, same as | > | > before flashing | > | > > the BIOS. Is this normal or hotter than it should be? I've | > | > read the | > | > > problem was with Linux and the HLT instruction set, does this | > | > carry for | > | > > Windoze 2000 too? | > > | > > cheers | > > Simon | | -- | To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com | For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com | Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the | archives at http://lists.suse.com | |

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On Thursday 20 September 2001 6:22 am, Cliff Sarginson wrote:

On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:21:58PM -0700, emanon wrote:

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please don't abandon this thread. it is appropriate and useful. i assume that many in the linux avant garde are o.g. gearheads like me.

thanks-

larry

Alan Lenton wrote:

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Guys,

Now you figured out who is interested do you think you could take the Asus boards discussion to somewhere more appropriate?

Thanks

alan

I think despite it being I suppose OT, this thread is maybe pretty important to people considering buying a new motherboard and/or PC to run Linux on. As such the mailings will help, and maybe put some pressure on Asus, directly or indirectly. I have no PC's with Asus/AMD configs, and am about to take delivery of another PC also without. So personally the issue does not affect me. However it is a very important one, hardware issues can be a real bug-bear in the Linux/FreeBSD world, and the h/ware database that Suse provides is hopelessly minimal and out of date. So just use the delete message/delete thread key if you find it a dull subject ! Or just filter them out...

Couple of points: 1. The Asus problem is not specific to Linux; it affects all OS that use HLT, e.g. Windows NT/2000. Therefore, I'd agree that this is just a bit [OT]. 2. The SuSE SDB has been updated! M

On September 20, 2001 06:10 pm, W.D.McKinney wrote:

My ASUS A7V with 896Megs ram an 900MHz TBird is currently at (CPU) 51.5C/124.5F

Giving me some problems also with locking up. Suggested work arounds have not worked as this is the latest ASUS 1008 BIOS. Any ideas folks ?

Does your power supply have a fan on the bottom as well as one on the back? According to the documents on http://www.amd.com , the extra fan on the bottom makes a huge difference. -- James Oakley Engineering - SolutionInc Ltd. joakley@solutioninc.com http://www.solutioninc.com

It does now, due to buying a new one. Enermax EG465P-VE which is a 431 Watt power supply, the latest ASUS MB for the PIII and nice PIII 1Ghz cpu, it's purring along at 36C/96F .... a lot cooler than the AMD which was cooked when the power supply went down. For Enermax see ( avery nice power supply....), http://www.asiansources.com/enermax.co Best Regards, Dee (Looking forward to 7.3 soon :-) -----Original Message----- From: James Oakley [mailto:joakley@solutioninc.com] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 4:55 AM To: W.D.McKinney; suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] [OT] Asus mainboards - Wow On September 20, 2001 06:10 pm, W.D.McKinney wrote:

My ASUS A7V with 896Megs ram an 900MHz TBird is currently at (CPU) 51.5C/124.5F

Giving me some problems also with locking up. Suggested work arounds have not worked as this is the latest ASUS 1008 BIOS. Any ideas folks ?

Does your power supply have a fan on the bottom as well as one on the back? According to the documents on http://www.amd.com , the extra fan on the bottom makes a huge difference. --

Wolly Wicyrek wrote:

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please don't abandon this thread. it is appropriate and useful. i assume that many in the linux avant garde are o.g. gearheads like me.

Okay. However, my problem is a bit different. Asus used to sell good motherboards (as of quality/stability).

Now, I am looking for another manufacturer selling stable and high quality mobos (which should not be slow, either, of course; good BIOS, etc. and not more expensive). Oh, and they must support the HLT instruction... and DMA with linux (Don't know on what DMA support precisely depends on; if it's the chipset, then KT133/266[A] should be OK.)

Any recommendations which brand to buy?

Wolly

I'm not sure about the HLT instruction, but I having been using Abit Motherboards for a few years now and have been very pleased with them. I have never had a heat problem with those boards I have owned. Tho it may not be important to you, Abit boards have been considered one of the top motherboards for overclocking. I would recommended Abit to anyone considering a new motherboard. Nevada

On September 20, 2001 01:43 pm, Paul Abrahams wrote:

Wolly Wicyrek wrote:

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please don't abandon this thread. it is appropriate and useful. i assume that many in the linux avant garde are o.g. gearheads like me.

Okay. However, my problem is a bit different. Asus used to sell good motherboards (as of quality/stability).

Now, I am looking for another manufacturer selling stable and high quality mobos (which should not be slow, either, of course; good BIOS, etc. and not more expensive). Oh, and they must support the HLT instruction... and DMA with linux (Don't know on what DMA support precisely depends on; if it's the chipset, then KT133/266[A] should be OK.)

Any recommendations which brand to buy?

I've generally bought Tyans and have not had problems with them. But I haven't been using any processors > 1GHz.

I hear from everywhere that the Soyo K7VDRAGON is the best Athlon MB out there. It's supposed to be super-stable. There was an article on /. a while back praising it. I'm thinking of picking one up. -- James Oakley Engineering - SolutionInc Ltd. joakley@solutioninc.com http://www.solutioninc.com

On September 20, 2001 02:47 pm, W.D.McKinney wrote:

This MB only uses DDR mem though.

That's a *good* thing, the more memory bandwidth, the better. I'll be buying this board primarily to speed up compiles and memory makes a big difference.

-----Original Message----- From: James Oakley [mailto:joakley@solutioninc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 9:37 AM To: Paul Abrahams; SuSE listserve Subject: Re: [SLE] Re: Asus mainboards

On September 20, 2001 01:43 pm, Paul Abrahams wrote:

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Wolly Wicyrek wrote:

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please don't abandon this thread. it is appropriate and useful. i assume that many in the linux avant garde are o.g. gearheads like me.

Okay. However, my problem is a bit different. Asus used to sell good motherboards (as of quality/stability).

Now, I am looking for another manufacturer selling stable and high quality mobos (which should not be slow, either, of course; good BIOS, etc. and not more expensive). Oh, and they must support the HLT instruction... and DMA with linux (Don't know on what DMA support precisely depends on; if it's the chipset, then KT133/266[A] should be OK.)

Any recommendations which brand to buy?

I've generally bought Tyans and have not had problems with them. But I haven't been using any processors > 1GHz.

I hear from everywhere that the Soyo K7VDRAGON is the best Athlon MB out there. It's supposed to be super-stable. There was an article on /. a while back praising it. I'm thinking of picking one up.

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-- James Oakley Engineering - SolutionInc Ltd. joakley@solutioninc.com http://www.solutioninc.com