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Tom Nielsen

28 Aug 2004 28 Aug '04

19:17

I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command? Tom -- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------

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Patrick Shanahan

28 Aug 28 Aug

19:21

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* Tom Nielsen [08-28-04 14:17]:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

has been discussed several times on this list, google is your friend. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

Tom Nielsen

29 Aug 29 Aug

00:57

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:21 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Tom Nielsen [08-28-04 14:17]:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

has been discussed several times on this list, google is your friend. -- Patrick,

Why do you even bother replying to folks? I've been keeping track of your posts for the past couple months and have found that you rarely provide any *real* assistance other than to say google for this or that, or man for this and that. Rarely do you provide the responses that other people do by providing precise answers to questions. Mostly it seems you like to rant about stuff or the way people are doing things. The regular folks on this list, on the other hand, I have found provide constant valuable information. Why not be more helpful? Do "me" a little favor....if I post something, don't bother replying...it just wastes my time having to delete it. -- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------

Terence McCarthy

07:49

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:57:21 -0700 Tom Nielsen wrote:

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Why do you even bother replying to folks?

Patrick is actually being a lot more polite than this list's members used to be when peoples first reaction to a problem is to mail the list. RTMF has not been seen here for some time but it ought to used more often. There are many easily available sources of information (>man rpm, anyone?), and the list should be for those who have tried the normal sources first. the many long treads about quite simple stuff that are repeated every few weeks or months just wastes bandwidth and time (mine at least). Patrick is, after all, more responsive and considerate than me - he at least repliesreplies. I tend to ignore posts that require an RTFM. Terence

John Andersen

08:57

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 11:49 pm, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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the many long treads about quite simple stuff that are repeated every few weeks or months just wastes bandwidth and time (mine at least).

The list exists to help new users. If it doesn't help you, and if you are not interested in helping others, one has to ask why you subscribe? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Terence McCarthy

09:27

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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:57:45 -0800 John Andersen wrote:

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The list exists to help new users.

That is only one of its reasons.........

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If it doesn't help you, and if you are not interested in helping others, one has to ask why you subscribe?

If you had noted what I said, you would have seen I did not say I was unwilling to help others- I am, and you can check though the archives for the last six/seven years or so to see that. I am just not willing to help others who are not prepared to help themselves, or to use the already -and readily- available resources, before asking what are usually Frequently Asked Questions (qv). You may also check the list to see the increasing number of posts expressing irritation at such people. Terence

C. Richard Matson

21:56

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On Sunday 29 August 2004 2:27 am, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:57:45 -0800

John Andersen wrote:

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The list exists to help new users.

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If you had noted what I said, you would have seen I did not say I was unwilling to help others- I am, and you can check though the archives for the last six/seven years or so to see that.

I noted what you said. The man pages are almost useless to newbies. They are designed for people with a knowledge of Unix's or a PHD in computer sciences, which most people moving to Linux aren't these days. I think we need to be a lot more patient with them these days. Times are changing. Rich -- C. Richard Matson

Tom Nielsen

30 Aug 30 Aug

04:28

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On Sunday 29 August 2004 02:56 pm, C. Richard Matson wrote:

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I noted what you said. The man pages are almost useless to newbies. They are designed for people with a knowledge of Unix's or a PHD in computer sciences, which most people moving to Linux aren't these days. I think we need to be a lot more patient with them these days. Times are changing. Rich

-- C. Richard Matson

Newbie here, and OP'er. I looked at the man page and still didn't understand. Even after I asked the group I had a couple different versions on how to do what I asked. I agree with Matson and all I was saying in my OP, and have said this before, is if you take the time to answer a post, why not offer "real" help instead of "man blah"? If someone's goal is to offer limited help, or to try to make a point, just don't reply to the post. Example....I asked a question because I didn't understand how rpm worked. I got 5+ people responding and only one did not offer "real" help....just whined about repeated questions. He took the time to rant....why not use that time to help? A majority of folks on here want to help and I see that. I would like to be more helpful with posts but am not that sure about myself and so I don't want to answer. In addition, if I try to search for something, I find it takes a lot longer searching thru threads than just asking. Heck, that's what the group is for. Isn't it? -- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------

Peter B Van Campen

13:50

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On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:28 pm, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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On Sunday 29 August 2004 02:56 pm, C. Richard Matson wrote:

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I noted what you said. The man pages are almost useless to newbies. They

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Example....I asked a question because I didn't understand how rpm worked. I got 5+ people responding and only one did not offer "real" help....just whined about repeated questions. He took the time to rant....why not use that time to help? A majority of folks on here want to help and I see that. I would like to be more helpful with posts but am not that sure about myself and so I don't want to answer. In addition, if I try to search for something, I find it takes a lot longer searching thru threads than just asking. Heck, that's what the group is for. Isn't it? -- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ---------------------------- Hi Tom,

Excellent thought, Tom. You expressed the newby situation well. I hope some here will take a moment of self reflection, think about how the 'knowledge-transfer" process can be improved, and make some positive improvements. PeterB -- -- Proud to use SuSE Linux, since 5.2 Loving using SuSE Linux 9.1 MyBlog http://vancampen.org/blog/ Currently listening to Joseph Campbell http://www.jcf.org/ Free D/Ls after free registration --

David Robertson

29 Aug 29 Aug

12:53

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On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 10:49, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:57:21 -0700 Tom Nielsen wrote:

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Patrick is actually being a lot more polite than this list's members used to be when peoples first reaction to a problem is to mail the list.

RTMF has not been seen here for some time but it ought to used more often.

or RTFM even....... The list is certainly a lot "friendlier." I can remember a couple of years ago when I was almost scared to ask a question, because inevitably it would provoke an RTFM or something along the lines of a contemptuous sneer. Down to one person especially, if I remember rightly..........(who is now gone). It isn't always that easy to sort through the information you get from google or a man page - I'm intelligent (Ithink!), well educated, to PhD level, but not in anything computer related (I'm a gynaecologist!!) but I get lost sometimes trying to figure out man pages, scripts, etc. Nonetheless, there are many people like me who want to use Linux and learn about it but just need some help - even after using SuSE for about 5 years, I still get in a fix sometimes. It's not always easy knowing if something has been discussed on the list - try searching the archives manually: it's long and tedious, so it is tempting just to post. Yes, people need to be told to RTFM and do a bit of work, but they sometimes also need a bit of slack and understanding, especially from those to whom all of this is second nature. David

Terence McCarthy

21:41

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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:53:25 +0300 David Robertson wrote:

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or RTFM even.......

Typo! Got it right the second time!

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The list is certainly a lot "friendlier." I can remember a couple of years ago when I was almost scared to ask a question, because inevitably it would provoke an RTFM or something along the lines of a contemptuous sneer. Down to one person especially, if I remember rightly..........(who is now gone).

Actually, I can't remember (but am willing to be corrected) a "contemptuous sneer" to a mail saying that in spite of trying the obvious sources the sender could not work something out.

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It isn't always that easy to sort through the information you get from google

Not a Linux problem.

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or a man page -

Agreed- but at least you would have tried!

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Nonetheless, there are many people like me who want to use Linux and learn about it but just need some help - even after using SuSE for about 5 years, I still get in a fix sometimes.

So do we all, but most of us try to solve our own problems first. I can accept that as one learns more it becomes easier to find the right answers, but not trying to learn (e.g. sending a mail just because one can't be bothered to try and find the answer oneself) merely indicates someone who expects others to spoon-feed them (at, of course, the cost of others time, and for those in poorer parts of the world, an expensive and unnecessary waste of bandwidth and money). It's not always easy knowing if

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something has been discussed on the list - try searching the archives manually: it's long and tedious, so it is tempting just to post.

So just ask for a direction to the relevant thread if you can't find it.

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Yes, people need to be told to RTFM and do a bit of work, but they sometimes also need a bit of slack and understanding, especially from those to whom all of this is second nature.

Agreed, and this list has provided this for years- unfortunately this generosity of spirit has led to the kind of postings to which I object- those who cannot be bothered to try and solve their own problems, but post them. The irritating fact that so many of us in the list who respond in a kindly manner to these results in more "can't be bothered to find out, tell me the answer" posts seems to be missed. And, no, it wasn't second nature to me when I switched- I was flamed for not checking first (rightly so, in my opinion- I hadn't checked), but as I went on (reading this list and others similar), it did become second nature. Questions which state "I have this problem. I have checked a, b, c, and d, but can't find the answer. Can anyone point me in the right direction?" will not only get a rapid response but will also indicate to other list members where the initial checks may be made, and also the way in which to ask for advice. This could be an interesting discussion- Linux- wider use, less computer awareness/knowledge of new users, therefore need for more support of the kind I've been arguing against! Tell them what you're going to tell them, tell them, then tell them what you've told them. Perhaps lists like this will need to become tiered? Terence

David Robertson

30 Aug 30 Aug

05:50

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The list is certainly a lot "friendlier." I can remember a couple of years ago when I was almost scared to ask a question, because inevitably it would provoke an RTFM or something along the lines of a contemptuous sneer. Down to one person especially, if I remember rightly..........(who is now gone).

Actually, I can't remember (but am willing to be corrected) a "contemptuous sneer" to a mail saying that in spite of trying the obvious sources the sender could not >work something out.

Oh yes, but I'm not going to say who the offender was. (maybe "contemptuous sneer" is little strong, but you get my drift). Anyway, they're no longer around (maybe they're lurking, though I doubt it).

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Questions which state "I have this problem. I have checked a, b, c, and d, but can't >find the answer. Can anyone point me in the right direction?" will not only get a rapid >response but will also indicate to other list members where the initial checks may be >made, and also the way in which to ask for advice.

Agree that's exactly how it should be done.

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Perhaps lists like this will need to become tiered?

Well, maybe there is a case for doing it the Mandrake way, with "newbie" and "expert" lists. There's no reason why someone couldn't post certain questions to each list, depending on their level of expertise with that particular topic. The Linux world is definitely changing, with many more "newbies" around - people who more or less expect to be able to switch on their computer and have it work, who have never had to edit a configuration file or even use a tool like YaST. Now maybe Linux isn't actually ready for that - it's a whole new argument (is Linux ready for the desktop?)- but the fact is that these people are there and asking for help. I think we should encourage them, but where do you draw the line? One of the criticisms of Windows is the level of bloat which, in part, at least, is due to all these tools and wizards that are supposed to make configuration idiot-proof (but not Microsoft-proof!) There's a link in today's BBC news - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3601710.stm What's going to happen when all these people start running Linux? OK, there are sysadmins, but many of them will install it at home as well. I could go on and on, but better not! Just some of my thoughts first thing in the morning................... Have a good day, everyone. This is a great list. David

Terence McCarthy

07:20

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:50:59 +0300 (AST) "David Robertson" wrote:

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There's a link in today's BBC news - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3601710.stm What's going to happen when all these people start running Linux? OK, there are sysadmins, but many of them will install it at home as well.

Tools like YAST, apt, red carpet etc., can remove the pain of learning the command line syntax of rpm (at some cost, obviously), and comfortable gui-based tools like these will predominate in the future. I remember having to set up my first Linux box with dozens (or at least it seemed like dozens) of self edited config files, but most can now be done automagically. I only edit the odd file now to tweak it, as most of the general settings are, if not optimum, adequate. The issue here is that someone wanted to use the command line, but could not understand the man page. Perhaps the best advice would be "Use Yast2" rather than the many varieties of the rpm command that were offered......

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Have a good day, everyone.

Agreed.

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This is a great list.

Sometimes! Terence

Tom Nielsen

15:49

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On Monday 30 August 2004 12:20 am, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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The issue here is that someone wanted to use the command line, but could not understand the man page. Perhaps the best advice would be "Use Yast2" rather than the many varieties of the rpm command that were offered......

Oh, that was me. As I said earlier, I read the man page and it didn't make sense....I'm not too bright. I asked the group and still got a couple different resposes. I'm trying to use Yast2, but I can't get it to connect to gwdg.de. It seems that it wants to get patches and not full updated versions. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

Johan Nielsen

17:51

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Mandag den 30. august 2004 17:49 skrev Tom Nielsen:

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On Monday 30 August 2004 12:20 am, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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The issue here is that someone wanted to use the command line, but could not understand the man page. Perhaps the best advice would be "Use Yast2" rather than the many varieties of the rpm command that were offered......

Oh, that was me. As I said earlier, I read the man page and it didn't make sense....I'm not too bright. I asked the group and still got a couple different resposes. I'm trying to use Yast2, but I can't get it to connect to gwdg.de. It seems that it wants to get patches and not full updated versions. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.

I don't know if this might be a good tip but on the SuSE AMD64 list they talked about a couple of issues with Yast and rpm's !! This happened just a couple of hours ago so should be easy to find browsing that list. I don't wan't to provide trouble for you but expect the worst ;-) They did end up noticing that they would have to work on a general fix for all off us :-\ Johan

Tom Nielsen

17:56

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On Monday 30 August 2004 10:51 am, Johan Nielsen wrote:

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I don't know if this might be a good tip but on the SuSE AMD64 list they talked about a couple of issues with Yast and rpm's !! Thanks for the tip! I didn't know there was a 64-bit list. I'm subscribing as we speak.

You guys aren't out of the woods though....I'll still have 2 32-bit systems, so you'll still have to put up with me. -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

Patrick Shanahan

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* Tom Nielsen [08-30-04 12:56]:

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You guys aren't out of the woods though....I'll still have 2 32-bit systems, so you'll still have to put up with me.

ouch -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

James Knott

21:00

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Tom Nielsen wrote:

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On Monday 30 August 2004 10:51 am, Johan Nielsen wrote:

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I don't know if this might be a good tip but on the SuSE AMD64 list they talked about a couple of issues with Yast and rpm's !!

Thanks for the tip! I didn't know there was a 64-bit list. I'm subscribing as we speak.

You guys aren't out of the woods though....I'll still have 2 32-bit systems, so you'll still have to put up with me.

Last I checked, 2 x 32 = 64. ;-)

Tom Nielsen

21:06

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On Monday 30 August 2004 2:00 pm, James Knott wrote:

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Tom Nielsen wrote:

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On Monday 30 August 2004 10:51 am, Johan Nielsen wrote:

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I don't know if this might be a good tip but on the SuSE AMD64 list they talked about a couple of issues with Yast and rpm's !!

Thanks for the tip! I didn't know there was a 64-bit list. I'm subscribing as we speak.

You guys aren't out of the woods though....I'll still have 2 32-bit systems, so you'll still have to put up with me.

Last I checked, 2 x 32 = 64. ;-) You silly!

-- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

Damon Register

31 Aug 31 Aug

10:58

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James Knott wrote:

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Last I checked, 2 x 32 = 64. ;-) Cool. Does that mean I can put my two old Pentium 200 MHz PCs together? :-)

Damon Register

Ken Schneider

12:05

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On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 06:58, Damon Register wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Last I checked, 2 x 32 = 64. ;-) Cool. Does that mean I can put my two old Pentium 200 MHz PCs together? :-)

Damon Register

So that's how they get 64 bit computing, out two 32's together. LOL... -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2) * PLEASE only reply to the list *

James Knott

13:41

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Damon Register wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Last I checked, 2 x 32 = 64. ;-)

Cool. Does that mean I can put my two old Pentium 200 MHz PCs together? :-)

Sure, go for it. ;-) Actually, years ago, you could parallel chips. Some computers, such as the Data General Eclipse, used bit slice processors. Each chip was a 4 bit ALU. So a 16 bit computer, such as the Eclipse, would use 4 of them. If you wanted a 32 bit CPU, you'd use 8. However, these weren't complete CPUs. You also had to add microcode and a fair bit of additional logic, to produce a working CPU. As I recall, the microcode for the Eclipse was over 100 bits wide. The Eclipse CPU was comprised of 2 15 inch square boards. Memory and I/O was on additional boards. Incidentally, finding bugs in the microcode was real "fun". The Eclipse had microstepping available for that, but it was still difficult.

Allen

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On Tuesday 31 August 2004 06:58, Damon Register wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Last I checked, 2 x 32 = 64. ;-)

Cool. Does that mean I can put my two old Pentium 200 MHz PCs together? :-)

Damon Register

Of course you can, but first you have to send me a note written on Bank notes describing the processors. If the chips turn out to be compatible, you can solder them together and make them into a P4 :) -Allen / Gore / The BOFH

Danny Sauer

1 Sep 1 Sep

21:36

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Damon wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] This list and support issues(Was:How do I install a bunch of files with rpm?)' on Tue, Aug 31 at 06:01:

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James Knott wrote:

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Last I checked, 2 x 32 = 64. ;-) Cool. Does that mean I can put my two old Pentium 200 MHz PCs together? :-)

Disn't Tyan make a board that'd allow just that? I could've sworn that they made a dual socket 7 board... --Danny, aware that it'd still be a 200MHz 32bit system, but it'd be neater

Pablo Ortúzar

28 Aug 28 Aug

19:24

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 21:17, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

Hi, 1) create a new folder and call it -say- RPM. 2) move all your rpms to that folder (mv *.rpm RPM) 3) cd into folder RPM 4) become root (su + passwd) 5) without the quotation marks, type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm" Luck!

Jos van Kan

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Op zaterdag 28 augustus 2004 21:24, schreef Pablo Ortúzar:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 21:17, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

Hi,

1) create a new folder and call it -say- RPM. 2) move all your rpms to that folder (mv *.rpm RPM) 3) cd into folder RPM 4) become root (su + passwd) 5) without the quotation marks, type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm"

Oh, for God's sake, don't forget this essential step: 4a) CROSS YOUR FINGERS Regards, -- Jos van Kan

Jon Clausen

29 Aug 29 Aug

07:23

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On Sat, 28 Aug, 2004 at 22:14:29 +0200, Jos van Kan wrote:

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Op zaterdag 28 augustus 2004 21:24, schreef Pablo Ortúzar:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 21:17, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

Hi,

1) create a new folder and call it -say- RPM. 2) move all your rpms to that folder (mv *.rpm RPM) 3) cd into folder RPM 4) become root (su + passwd) 5) without the quotation marks, type "rpm -Uvh *.rpm"

Oh, for God's sake, don't forget this essential step: 4a) CROSS YOUR FINGERS

- or, if you're agnostic, try the command with '--test'. Eg: rpm --test -Uvh *.rpm (To udate/install everything in ./) rpm --test -Fvh *.rpm (To only udate already installed pkgs) This makes rpm go through the motions, and will tell you if there are unmet dependencies. HTH /Jon -- Just say "know!"

Bruce Marshall

28 Aug 28 Aug

19:29

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:17 pm, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

rpm -Fvh *.rpm -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 08/28/04 15:28 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Seeing consists of the grasping of structural features rather than the indiscriminate recording of detail." - Rudolf Arnheim

Steve King

21:11

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 20:29, Bruce Marshall wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:17 pm, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

rpm -Fvh *.rpm

And after they have installed: SuSEconfig Steve Dundee, UK

Tom Nielsen

29 Aug 29 Aug

04:38

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:11 pm, Steve King wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 20:29, Bruce Marshall wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:17 pm, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

rpm -Fvh *.rpm

And after they have installed:

SuSEconfig

Steve Dundee, UK Thanks! --

Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------

John Andersen

28 Aug 28 Aug

23:38

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 11:29 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:17 pm, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

rpm -Fvh *.rpm

I would caution against the -F. All that does is upgrade existing packages, but it will not install new packages that are not on the system. -U is generally more useful. Updates and Adds packages as needed. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Dylan

23:58

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On Sunday 29 Aug 2004 00:38 am, John Andersen wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 11:29 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:17 pm, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

Tom

rpm -Fvh *.rpm

I would caution against the -F. All that does is upgrade existing packages, but it will not install new packages that are not on the system.

-U is generally more useful. Updates and Adds packages as needed.

Actually, the -U option will install ALL the packages in the directory except those which are already up to date or newer. Doing that in, for example, the kde applications directory could lead to many unwanted packages being installed. Using the -F option only updates already installed packages, and it will tell you is something is needed as a dependency. Dylan -- "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" -Dark Helmet

Tom Nielsen

29 Aug 29 Aug

00:49

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 04:58 pm, Dylan wrote:

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Using the -F option only updates already installed packages, and it will tell you is something is needed as a dependency.

Dylan Will it organize what is supposed to go first? So, I should do an rpm -Uvh -F *.rpm??? --

Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------

Dylan

00:56

New subject: [SLE] How do I install a bunch of files with rpm?

On Sunday 29 Aug 2004 01:49 am, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 04:58 pm, Dylan wrote:

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Using the -F option only updates already installed packages, and it will tell you is something is needed as a dependency.

Dylan

Will it organize what is supposed to go first?

Yes - so long as they are in the directory and an older version is already installed.

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So, I should do an rpm -Uvh -F *.rpm???

NO - -U and -F are mutually exclusive. -F means "Freshen" - it updates currently installed packages to the newer version if necessary/possible. -U is like install in that it installs all the packages available, but replaces ones which already exist. Dylan

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Tom Nielsen

04:35

New subject: [SLE] How do I install a bunch of files with rpm?

On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:56 pm, Dylan wrote:

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On Sunday 29 Aug 2004 01:49 am, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 04:58 pm, Dylan wrote:

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Using the -F option only updates already installed packages, and it will tell you is something is needed as a dependency.

Dylan

Will it organize what is supposed to go first?

Yes - so long as they are in the directory and an older version is already installed.

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So, I should do an rpm -Uvh -F *.rpm???

NO - -U and -F are mutually exclusive. -F means "Freshen" - it updates currently installed packages to the newer version if necessary/possible. -U is like install in that it installs all the packages available, but replaces ones which already exist.

Dylan Thanks! I'm going to give it a shot in a couple minutes.

Tom

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John Andersen

01:08

New subject: [SLE] How do I install a bunch of files with rpm?

On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:58 pm, Dylan wrote:

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-U is generally more useful. Updates and Adds packages as needed.

Actually, the -U option will install ALL the packages in the directory except those which are already up to date or newer. Doing that in, for example, the kde applications directory could lead to many unwanted packages being installed.

Had you followed the thread, the suggestion was made to put all the desired rpms in a directory and run the command in that directory. In that case it will do what is required if you use -U. But if you use -F and there happens to be one package in there that is later than whats installed, it will update that package, and leave the rest of the NEW packages uninstalled, and the new user scratching his head. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

Dylan

01:38

New subject: [SLE] How do I install a bunch of files with rpm?

On Sunday 29 Aug 2004 02:08 am, John Andersen wrote:

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On Saturday 28 August 2004 03:58 pm, Dylan wrote:

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-U is generally more useful. Updates and Adds packages as needed.

Actually, the -U option will install ALL the packages in the directory except those which are already up to date or newer. Doing that in, for example, the kde applications directory could lead to many unwanted packages being installed.

Had you followed the thread, the suggestion was made to put all the desired rpms in a directory and run the command in that directory. In that case it will do what is required if you use -U.

From the original question it appears that the OP has d/loaded a kde upgrade/update - hence one can reasonably think he only wants to update the currently installed packages...

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But if you use -F and there happens to be one package in there that is later than whats installed, it will update that package, and leave the rest of the NEW packages uninstalled, and the new user scratching his head.

If only one of them is newer than the installed packages then that is all that would need to be updated, surely. Dylan -- "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" -Dark Helmet

Jostein Berntsen

30 Aug 30 Aug

15:46

New subject: [SLE] How do I install a bunch of files with rpm?

On 28.08.04,12:17, Tom Nielsen wrote:

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I downloaded a lot of kde rpms and instead of installing them one by one, I'm wondering if I can do so all at once with some command?

You can also install the KDE packages with(as root): yast -i *.rpm - Jostein -- Jostein Berntsen

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