Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Quoting jalal :

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OK, this sounds silly, but on my 9.2 install, I can't find an xterm... nor can I find an xterm package.

# rpm -qf `which xterm` xorg-x11-6.8.1-15

Well thanks for the replies $ which xterm gives nothing. $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/xterm gives nothing (obviously). However, one of my machines (the server) does have /usr/bin/xterm. All machines installed from the same DVD set, but the server has only a minimal install (enough for a vnc setup), the other machines have, at some point, had the xorg-*.rpm's upgraded, so at some point, xterm has gone AWOL. I'll look into installing rxvt, maybe that will do the trick. cheers jalal -- GPG fingerprint = 3D45 5509 D380 26A4 523E A9D8 A66A 5F38 CA43 BB0E

Whatching this thread, can't help thinking there must be a greater problem. As far as I know, xterm would be like notepad for winDOZE, should be on just about all machines with X by default, at least with SuSE anyway. The fact that it 'disappeared' is worrysome. This is what I call a "poke in the eye". Your system is telling you that there is some greater problem happing and if you simply re-install xterm or use another program, your not necessarily fixing the problem, more band-aiding the effects. Could be something like your harddrive is dying, or worse..... FYI B-) On Thursday 03 February 2005 10:56 am, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Quoting jalal :

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Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

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Quoting jalal :

...

OK, this sounds silly, but on my 9.2 install, I can't find an xterm... nor can I find an xterm package.

# rpm -qf `which xterm` xorg-x11-6.8.1-15

Well thanks for the replies

$ which xterm gives nothing. $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/xterm gives nothing (obviously).

However, one of my machines (the server) does have /usr/bin/xterm. All machines installed from the same DVD set, but the server has only a minimal install (enough for a vnc setup), the other machines have, at some point, had the xorg-*.rpm's upgraded, so at some point, xterm has gone AWOL.

I'll look into installing rxvt, maybe that will do the trick.

cheers jalal

rxvt doesn't support UTF-8, so you may have problems with accented characters. (I.e., I don't know which country is FM and what the native language is.)

HTH, Jeffrey

ah, good. didn't catch that.... alls well B-) On Thursday 03 February 2005 11:20 am, Ken Schneider wrote:

On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 13:01, Brad Bourn wrote:

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Whatching this thread, can't help thinking there must be a greater problem.

As far as I know, xterm would be like notepad for winDOZE, should be on just about all machines with X by default, at least with SuSE anyway. The fact that it 'disappeared' is worrysome. This is what I call a "poke in the eye". Your system is telling you that there is some greater problem happing and if you simply re-install xterm or use another program, your not necessarily fixing the problem, more band-aiding the effects. Could be something like your harddrive is dying, or worse.....

No Brad. If -no- xwindows stuff is installed xterm will not be installed. As the OP said it was a minimal install hence no "x" programs were installed therefore no xterm was installed.

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jalal wrote:

No, I said the opposite.

To recap: I received SuSE 9.2 and installed it on three machines. One was a server with a minimum installation and still is. The other two (desktop and laptop) I upgraded the xorg-x11-* files to the latest version (using apt-get) sometime in the last weeks. That info makes all the difference.

Now on the server I have: xorg-x11-6.8.1-15 and friends

On the desktop and laptop I have: xorg-x11-6.8.2rc3-0.1 and friends. This is a release candidate. IIRC, xterm was a separate package in the supplementary directory, so install it with apt. With that release, it seems to be a separate package. Try ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/suse/suse/i386/supplementary/X/Xorg/Xorg-X11R6.8.2-RC3/i386/suse92/xterm-197-2.1.i586.rpm

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On Thursday 03 February 2005 13:01, Brad Bourn wrote:

As far as I know, xterm would be like notepad for winDOZE, should be on just about all machines with X by default, at least with SuSE anyway. The fact that it 'disappeared' is worrysome. This is what I call a "poke in the eye". Your system is telling you that there is some greater problem happing and if you simply re-install xterm or use another program, your not necessarily fixing the problem, more band-aiding the effects. Could be something like your harddrive is dying, or worse..... Normally, xterm is in /usr/X11R6/bin/ /usr/bin/xterm is a symlink to it.

I have never seen an X Windows based system that did not have the basic X Windows tools, such as xterm. I do agree with Brad in that if it is missing, there is something wrong. I doubt you are having a hard drive failure, but something or someone may have inadvertently removed some stuff. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:08 pm, Carl E. Hartung wrote:

You've all got me wracking my brain now, but I seem to recall recently (last few days) reading a Novell/SuSE notice somewhere that they've begun deprecating some number of terminal programs that have been deemed redundant. They're simple enough to build from source, aren't they?

Could this blurb from the 9.2 release notes be what you read? Terminal Emulators for X11 We have removed a number of terminal emulators because they are either no longer maintained or do not work in the default environment, especially by not supporting UTF-8. SUSE LINUX offers standard terminals, such as xterm, the KDE and GNOME terminals, and mlterm (Multilingual Terminal Emulator for X), which might be a replacement for aterm and eterm. Doug e starting with

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