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[SLE] SuSE 7.0 - I'm not at all impressed...

bjornts＠mi.uib.no

29 Sep 2000 29 Sep '00

13:42

Having received the SuSE 7.0 professional in the mail on Tuesday, I've so far installed it twice, on two different machines, using the two different install programs (yast2 and yast1). 1. Yast2 is still relatively useless for anyone who fiddles with the package-configuration. In particular, I miss yast1's ability to detect package conflicts, and I found no function to save and load an established configuration. The excellent hardware detection helps when I install on laptops (which happens once per month or so, on average), but I'm forced to first do a minimal installation and then use yast1 to postinstall packages. This means it's useless when I'm to upgrade my 30 desktop machines all in one go - I need to spend too much time in front of each machine. 2. Yast1 has had a serious bug introduced - it longer asks me for a superuser password, or allows me to create an example user. I need to boot it as a rescue system or in singleuser mode to set the root password to anything but a (non-published) default. Same conclusion as with yast2. The various package-related errors are less important, they're not on anything particulary necessary, fixes are already out, or I have fixes myself. But the lack of progress on installation software on a "Professional Edition" is disappointing. I dislike the fact that Tekram's driver for their 390U2W SCSI-card isn't included (it's been out for ages). Having to compile new kernels on a variety of different machines is a pain, but now it's got to be done. I'd hoped 7.0 would prevent the need. But there isn't even a precompiled kernel with both SMP and AMP support. I have to postpone my upgrade at least until I see fixes to yast1 (or yast2). I may skip the upgrade completely, and I may go look for a distribution with installation software that works. But I have no intention of doing an upgrade with what SuSE has given me now. Too much work, too much wasted time. I'll let you know. Bjørn -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Nothing gives such Sysadmin, Mathematics dept. Fax: (+47) 555-89672 weight and dignity University of Bergen Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 to a mail as a properly system@mi.uib.no Email: bjornts@mi.uib.no formatted .signature with a good quote. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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mha＠suse.com

29 Sep 29 Sep

20:53

Bjørn Tore Sund wrote:

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Having received the SuSE 7.0 professional in the mail on Tuesday, I've so far installed it twice, on two different machines, using the two different install programs (yast2 and yast1).

1. Yast2 is still relatively useless for anyone who fiddles with the package-configuration. In particular, I miss yast1's ability to detect package conflicts, and I found no function to save and load an established configuration. The excellent hardware detection helps when I install on laptops (which happens once per month or so, on average), but I'm forced to first do a minimal installation and then use yast1 to postinstall packages.

This means it's useless when I'm to upgrade my 30 desktop machines all in one go - I need to spend too much time in front of each machine.

You're using the wrong tool. If you do that many installations have a look at 'alice', a SuSE tool for automating a large number of installations. It's included in the Prof. Edition.

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I dislike the fact that Tekram's driver for their 390U2W SCSI-card isn't included (it's been out for ages). Having to compile new kernels on a variety of different machines is a pain, but now it's got to be done. I'd hoped 7.0 would prevent the need. But there isn't even a precompiled kernel with both SMP and AMP support.

AMP or is it APM? Forwarded to the responsible person. 'Isn't even' is a litle tough, the number of SMP machines where you'd want to enable APM is tiny. I'd certainly NEVER add APM to a production system. And how many people have SMP laptops?

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I have to postpone my upgrade at least until I see fixes to yast1 (or yast2). I may skip the upgrade completely, and I may go look for a distribution with installation software that works. But I have no intention of doing an upgrade with what SuSE has given me now. Too much work, too much wasted time.

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bjornts＠mi.uib.no

30 Sep 30 Sep

10:10

At 13:53 29.09.00 -0700, Michael Hasenstein wrote:

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1. Yast2 is still relatively useless for anyone who fiddles with the package-configuration. In particular, I miss yast1's ability to detect package conflicts, and I found no function to save and load an established configuration. The excellent hardware detection helps when I install on laptops (which happens once per month or so, on average), but I'm forced to first do a minimal installation and then use yast1 to postinstall packages.

This means it's useless when I'm to upgrade my 30 desktop machines all in one go - I need to spend too much time in front of each machine.

You're using the wrong tool. If you do that many installations have a look at 'alice', a SuSE tool for automating a large number of installations. It's included in the Prof. Edition.

This is good and useful advice. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. On the other hand, you do not address my complaints about the problems with yast{1,2}. And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything was in /usr/share/doc/packages. While the packages themselves, it seems, as a rule expects to find the doc in /usr/doc/packages. Things like that are a total pain for anyone who edits their own configuration files. I've had to spend quite a bit of time with my httpd.conf now, because of this. Going from SuSE 6.4 to SuSE 7.0 is going to be a lot of work for me. So much that I'm considering sticking with 6.4 and just continuing to upgrade the kernel and any software SuSE provides on the ftp sites. The latter is an excellent service, as long as you ignore the web page listing the up- grades.

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I dislike the fact that Tekram's driver for their 390U2W SCSI-card isn't included (it's been out for ages). Having to compile new kernels on a variety of different machines is a pain, but now it's got to be done. I'd hoped 7.0 would prevent the need. But there isn't even a precompiled kernel with both SMP and AMP support.

AMP or is it APM?

APM. Sorry.

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Forwarded to the responsible person. 'Isn't even' is a litle tough, the number of SMP machines where you'd want to enable APM is tiny. I'd certainly NEVER add APM to a production system. And how many people have SMP laptops?

I wouldn't use APM on my servers. On the other hand, I find being able to shut klient machines _completely_ off with 'shutdown -h' very handy. I also hope to get support in apmd for suspending the monitor. For both of these things, as I understand it, the APM kernel is necessary. And on klient machines with two processors, therefore, APM+SMP is needed.

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Use ALICE!

I probably will, if I decide that the upgrade is worth it. Thanks, Michael. Bjørn -- bjornts@mi.uib.no Sysadm, Math Dept, University of Bergen -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

adcarlso＠visinet.ca

11:42

Regarding the location of docs, its GOOD to see SuSE finally putting them in the right place...anything Debian has been sticking to this location for some time. I think its a LSB thing (Linux Standard Base, IIRC), which will become even more important over the next year or more. Debian is very religious about sticking to such standards...whereas SuSE has been very sloppy to date (especially with their usage of /opt). On 30-Sep-00 Bjørn Tore Sund wrote:

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At 13:53 29.09.00 -0700, Michael Hasenstein wrote:

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1. Yast2 is still relatively useless for anyone who fiddles with the package-configuration. In particular, I miss yast1's ability to detect package conflicts, and I found no function to save and load an established configuration. The excellent hardware detection helps when I install on laptops (which happens once per month or so, on average), but I'm forced to first do a minimal installation and then use yast1 to postinstall packages.

This means it's useless when I'm to upgrade my 30 desktop machines all in one go - I need to spend too much time in front of each machine.

You're using the wrong tool. If you do that many installations have a look at 'alice', a SuSE tool for automating a large number of installations. It's included in the Prof. Edition.

This is good and useful advice. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. On the other hand, you do not address my complaints about the problems with yast{1,2}.

And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything was in /usr/share/doc/packages. While the packages themselves, it seems, as a rule expects to find the doc in /usr/doc/packages. Things like that are a total pain for anyone who edits their own configuration files. I've had to spend quite a bit of time with my httpd.conf now, because of this.

Going from SuSE 6.4 to SuSE 7.0 is going to be a lot of work for me. So much that I'm considering sticking with 6.4 and just continuing to upgrade the kernel and any software SuSE provides on the ftp sites. The latter is an excellent service, as long as you ignore the web page listing the up- grades.

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I dislike the fact that Tekram's driver for their 390U2W SCSI-card isn't included (it's been out for ages). Having to compile new kernels on a variety of different machines is a pain, but now it's got to be done. I'd hoped 7.0 would prevent the need. But there isn't even a precompiled kernel with both SMP and AMP support.

AMP or is it APM?

APM. Sorry.

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Forwarded to the responsible person. 'Isn't even' is a litle tough, the number of SMP machines where you'd want to enable APM is tiny. I'd certainly NEVER add APM to a production system. And how many people have SMP laptops?

I wouldn't use APM on my servers. On the other hand, I find being able to shut klient machines _completely_ off with 'shutdown -h' very handy. I also hope to get support in apmd for suspending the monitor. For both of these things, as I understand it, the APM kernel is necessary. And on klient machines with two processors, therefore, APM+SMP is needed.

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Use ALICE!

I probably will, if I decide that the upgrade is worth it.

Thanks, Michael.

Bjørn -- bjornts@mi.uib.no Sysadm, Math Dept, University of Bergen

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karnak＠look.ca

12:37

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"Arlen" == Arlen Carlson writes:

Arlen> standards...whereas SuSE has been very sloppy to date Arlen> (especially with their usage of /opt). I disagree with you concerning /opt. /opt has been part of FHS since verion 2.0. Please reference section 3.8 in the FHS. Charles -- ===================================================== One Net to rule them all, One Net to find them, One Net to bring them all, and with Linux bind them. ===================================================== -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

brosenb＠suse.com

17:58

If you would like to look at the usage of /opt then you should look at Solaris..we are very SYSV in this respect.../opt is used correctly. -->sticking to such standards...whereas SuSE has been very sloppy to date -->(especially with their usage of /opt). -- Benjamin Rosenberg The Linux Experts :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: SuSE Inc. Tel: +1-510-628-3380 ext:5086 580 Second St Suite 210 Fax: +1-510-835-3381 Suite 210 mailto:brosenb@suse.com Oakland CA 94607 U.S.A http://www.suse.com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: If two men agree on everything, you may be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking. --LBJ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

chris.reeves＠iname.com

21:24

Arlen Carlson wrote:

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Regarding the location of docs, its GOOD to see SuSE finally putting them in the right place...anything Debian has been sticking to this location for some time. I think its a LSB thing (Linux Standard Base, IIRC), which will become even more important over the next year or more. Debian is very religious about sticking to such standards...whereas SuSE has been very sloppy to date (especially with their usage of /opt).

In my opinion, saying that SuSE has been 'very sloppy' is very harsh. SuSE is one of the Linux distributors that has adhered closest to the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, which is a part of the Linux Standards Base) - more so than RedHat. Any differences between SuSE and the FHS were only due to the fact that the FHS was unclear in places. Wherever this was the case, SuSE left the directory structure as is, in order to minimise that changes for the end user has to cope with. Now that certain aspects of the FHS have been clarified, SuSE has had to take the plunge and alter their filesystem structure to fall into line.

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And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything was in /usr/share/doc/packages. While the packages themselves, it seems, as a rule expects to find the doc in /usr/doc/packages. Things like that are a total pain for anyone who edits their own configuration files. I've had to spend quite a bit of time with my httpd.conf now, because of this.

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mha＠suse.com

1 Oct 1 Oct

06:31

BjXrn Tore Sund wrote:

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This is good and useful advice. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. On the other hand, you do not address my complaints about the problems with yast{1,2}.

All I can do is forward them, I've nothing whatsoever to do with SuSE Linux development. I'm the major Oracle guy around here, that's all...

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And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything

That's the LSB standard. In order to be compliant we had to move them.

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Going from SuSE 6.4 to SuSE 7.0 is going to be a lot of work for me. So much that I'm considering sticking with 6.4 and just continuing to upgrade the kernel and any software SuSE provides on the ftp sites. The latter is an excellent service, as long as you ignore the web page listing the up- grades.

??? I'm also just a user - although one with @suse.de as email address - and I've always found those pages very useful. What is it you don't like about them? Anyway, I've just upgraded my machine as well, and don't see any difficulties. Of course, for a sysadmin with lots of machines and services that may look differently.

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I wouldn't use APM on my servers. On the other hand, I find being able to shut klient machines _completely_ off with 'shutdown -h' very handy. I also hope to get support in apmd for suspending the monitor. For both of these things, as I understand it, the APM kernel is necessary.

Not if you run X. X can do that... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

lesched＠softhome.net

10:26

New subject: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 - Oracle

Mr Oracle Can I install the Oracle8I 816 on SuSE 7.0 with out much trouble. I currently have it running on Redhat62 and I am thinking of Upgrading both the Oracle and Linux -----Original Message----- From: mha@suse.com [mailto:mha@suse.com] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:32 PM To: BjXrn Tore Sund Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 - I'm not at all impressed... BjXrn Tore Sund wrote:

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This is good and useful advice. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. On the other hand, you do not address my complaints about the problems with yast{1,2}.

All I can do is forward them, I've nothing whatsoever to do with SuSE Linux development. I'm the major Oracle guy around here, that's all...

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And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything

That's the LSB standard. In order to be compliant we had to move them.

...

Going from SuSE 6.4 to SuSE 7.0 is going to be a lot of work for me. So much that I'm considering sticking with 6.4 and just continuing to upgrade the kernel and any software SuSE provides on the ftp sites. The latter is an excellent service, as long as you ignore the web page listing the up- grades.

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I wouldn't use APM on my servers. On the other hand, I find being able to shut klient machines _completely_ off with 'shutdown -h' very handy. I also hope to get support in apmd for suspending the monitor. For both of these things, as I understand it, the APM kernel is necessary.

mha＠suse.com

15:40

New subject: [SLE] Re: SuSE 7.0 - Oracle

"Les C. Hedrington" wrote:

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Mr Oracle

Can I install the Oracle8I 816 on SuSE 7.0 with out much trouble. I currently have it running on Redhat62 and I am thinking of Upgrading both the Oracle and Linux

Please go to http://www.suse.com/en/support/oracle/ We have provided a small package that makes installation even easier, plus it provides automatic Oracle environemnt setting for every user (via /etc/profile.d/oracle.sh, provided as part of the package) and SysV startup. After installing it, call 'install-oracle' and follow the instructions. It will prompt you for the CD or the directory and start the Oracle installer. It will patch 'dbstart', which is broken in 8iR2, after the installer is finished. Plus, we DO have the best support - via the above URL - for Oracle on Linux, plus we have the largest presence of any Linux company at Oracle HQ in Redwood City, to make sure that we don't just have those nuice webpages but that we are also able to fill them and actually do something about any problems. ;-) -- Michael Hasenstein http://www.suse.de/~mha/ SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg (Germany) SuSE Inc., Oakland, California (US) -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

lesched＠softhome.net

4 Oct 4 Oct

03:08

New subject: [SLE] RE: SuSE 7.0 - Oracle

Thanks This is one of the major requirements that we have to address. You have been more help than you know -----Original Message----- From: mha@suse.com [mailto:mha@suse.com] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:40 AM To: les@witty.com Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: SuSE 7.0 - Oracle "Les C. Hedrington" wrote:

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Mr Oracle

Can I install the Oracle8I 816 on SuSE 7.0 with out much trouble. I currently have it running on Redhat62 and I am thinking of Upgrading both the Oracle and Linux

chris＠susi.net

1 Oct 1 Oct

16:38

New subject: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 - Oracle

Use the setup tool on the SuSE Pages. I just installed 8.1.6.1 EE on 6.4 and didn't have much problems. I am a unix neophyte and had some issues at first with the groups, I used their setup tool and it took care of it with one minor issue (had to re-set a setting I made earlier). It was pretty straightforward from there.

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-----Original Message----- From: Les C. Hedrington [mailto:lesched@softhome.net] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 5:27 AM To: mha@suse.com; BjXrn Tore Sund Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 - Oracle

Mr Oracle

Can I install the Oracle8I 816 on SuSE 7.0 with out much trouble. I currently have it running on Redhat62 and I am thinking of Upgrading both the Oracle and Linux

-----Original Message----- From: mha@suse.com [mailto:mha@suse.com] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:32 PM To: BjXrn Tore Sund Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 - I'm not at all impressed...

BjXrn Tore Sund wrote:

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This is good and useful advice. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. On the other hand, you do not address my complaints about the problems with yast{1,2}.

All I can do is forward them, I've nothing whatsoever to do with SuSE Linux development. I'm the major Oracle guy around here, that's all...

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And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything

That's the LSB standard. In order to be compliant we had to move them.

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Going from SuSE 6.4 to SuSE 7.0 is going to be a lot of work for me. So much that I'm considering sticking with 6.4 and just continuing to upgrade the kernel and any software SuSE provides on the ftp sites. The latter is an excellent service, as long as you ignore the web page listing the up- grades.

???

I'm also just a user - although one with @suse.de as email address - and I've always found those pages very useful. What is it you don't like about them?

Anyway, I've just upgraded my machine as well, and don't see any difficulties. Of course, for a sysadmin with lots of machines and services that may look differently.

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I wouldn't use APM on my servers. On the other hand, I find being able to shut klient machines _completely_ off with 'shutdown -h' very handy. I also hope to get support in apmd for suspending the monitor. For both of these things, as I understand it, the APM kernel is necessary.

Not if you run X. X can do that...

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bjornts＠mi.uib.no

14:39

On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Michael Hasenstein wrote:

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BjXrn Tore Sund wrote:

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This is good and useful advice. Thanks. I'll have a look at it. On the other hand, you do not address my complaints about the problems with yast{1,2}.

All I can do is forward them, I've nothing whatsoever to do with SuSE Linux development. I'm the major Oracle guy around here, that's all...

Then I'm sorry. I saw the suse.com address, and threw myself at someone who responded. It's the first time I've had answers to questions I've put to the list...

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And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything

That's the LSB standard. In order to be compliant we had to move them.

So others have explained. And I don't mind the change. I mind them not being properly flagged. Any changes that means people who do their own config-files need to change them, must be printed in releases notes. Now I tested the installation on a couple of computers first. If I hadn't, I'd have been stuck with a system where my documentation web server wouldn't have worked immediately, out-of-the-box. I need to know before I install, so I can have updated config-files ready when I do the upgrade.

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Going from SuSE 6.4 to SuSE 7.0 is going to be a lot of work for me. So much that I'm considering sticking with 6.4 and just continuing to upgrade the kernel and any software SuSE provides on the ftp sites. The latter is an excellent service, as long as you ignore the web page listing the up- grades.

???

I'm also just a user - although one with @suse.de as email address - and I've always found those pages very useful. What is it you don't like about them?

It's been months since I checked them, and the reason I stopped was that i realised they were only updated several weeks after the packages were actually out on the ftp site. These days, I simply check the ftp site every two weeks or so, as well as after security announcements.

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Anyway, I've just upgraded my machine as well, and don't see any difficulties. Of course, for a sysadmin with lots of machines and services that may look differently.

We have very different criteria. And I find myself looking for very different things when I install on my home computer and my own work station at work. With those, I can fiddle, test, and take the time to give the individual machine lots of attention, to make it happy. I can't do that with thirty machines. Hmmm. I never noticed the parallel with raising a child/handling a kindergarten group before. :)

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I wouldn't use APM on my servers. On the other hand, I find being able to shut klient machines _completely_ off with 'shutdown -h' very handy. I also hope to get support in apmd for suspending the monitor. For both of these things, as I understand it, the APM kernel is necessary.

Not if you run X. X can do that...

Suspend the monitor? If it can, I haven't figured it out. What X certainly cannot do, is power-off the machine after a shutdown -h. Bjørn -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Nothing gives such Sysadmin, Mathematics dept. Fax: (+47) 555-89672 weight and dignity University of Bergen Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 to a mail as a properly system@mi.uib.no Email: bjornts@mi.uib.no formatted .signature with a good quote. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

kukuk＠suse.de

14:58

On Sun, Oct 01, Bjørn Tore Sund wrote:

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And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything

That's the LSB standard. In order to be compliant we had to move them.

So others have explained. And I don't mind the change. I mind them not being properly flagged. Any changes that means people who do their own config-files need to change them, must be printed in releases notes.

If you would read the handbook you would have find around page 430 ("from 6.4 to 7.0") the hint that we moved /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/ kukuk@suse.de SuSE GmbH Schanzaeckerstr. 10 90443 Nuernberg Linux is like a Vorlon. It is incredibly powerful, gives terse, cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

kmoore＠aa.net

16:01

Is this a case where we could have said RTFM... :) -- Kirk Moore Superior Web Solutions Black holes are created when God divides by zero! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thorsten Kukuk" To: Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 7.0 - I'm not at all impressed...

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On Sun, Oct 01, Bjørn Tore Sund wrote:

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And as I go along, I'm noticing more and more problems, introduced with SuSE 7.0. Whoever concocted the idea of moving the package docs, for instance? All of a sudden /usr/doc/packages was empty, and everything

That's the LSB standard. In order to be compliant we had to move them.

So others have explained. And I don't mind the change. I mind them not being properly flagged. Any changes that means people who do their own config-files need to change them, must be printed in releases notes.

If you would read the handbook you would have find around page 430 ("from 6.4 to 7.0") the hint that we moved /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc.

Thorsten

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Suspend the monitor? If it can, I haven't figured it out. What X certainly cannot do, is power-off the machine after a shutdown -h.

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2 Oct 2 Oct

19:27

New subject: [SLE] Using oracle stuff with other users

Hi... I'm trying to make a O.S user that could run the SQL PLUS, ORA OERR and other Oracle programs, I copy the .bash_profile and ALL the other /opt/oracle/* files including the hidden ones, but I'm still unable to use those programs ? why and what should I do ? thanks -ed -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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19:56

New subject: [SLE] Using oracle stuff with other users

I create the User with Yast and assign the default group to dba It has the same shell that the one that has the Oracle user. if I do a ls -la command it shows this: icarus:/home/kwebb # ls -la total 228 drwx------ 6 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:22 . drwxr-xr-x 4 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5742 Oct 2 13:18 .Xdefaults -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1305 Oct 2 13:18 .Xmodmap lrwxrwxrwx 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .Xresources -> .Xdefault -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 124 Oct 2 13:23 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 680 Oct 2 13:18 .bash_profile -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1392 Oct 2 13:18 .bashrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan.priv -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 208 Oct 2 13:18 .dvipsrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 4143 Oct 2 13:18 .emacs -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1124 Oct 2 13:18 .exrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5376 Oct 2 13:18 .gimprc drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .grok drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .hotjava -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7924 Oct 2 13:18 .jazz -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 164 Oct 2 13:18 .kermrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10376 Oct 2 13:18 .lyxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2286 Oct 2 13:18 .muttrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2070 Oct 2 13:18 .nc_keys -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 492 Oct 2 13:18 .profile drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .seyon -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 42 Oct 2 13:18 .stonxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 94 Oct 2 13:18 .susephone -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 8 Oct 2 13:18 .tex -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10972 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.console -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt100 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt102 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10687 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.xterm -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 324 Oct 2 13:18 .urlview -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 341 Oct 2 13:18 .vimrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7913 Oct 2 13:18 .xcoralrc drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .xfm -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2036 Oct 2 13:18 .xinitrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 795 Oct 2 13:18 .xserverrc.secure -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2751 Oct 2 13:18 .xsession -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 119 Oct 2 13:18 .xtalkrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .zsh also it's .bash_profile is: icarus:/home/kwebb # cat .bash_profile # # Oracle Stuff Goes Here # alias dir='ls -la' alias cls='clear' ORACLE_HOME=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6 ORACLE_BASE=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle ORACLE_OWNER=oracle ORACLE_SID=PRODUC export ORACLE_HOME ORACLE_BASE ORACLE_OWNER ORACLE_SID NLS_SORT=BINARY NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P9 NLS_DATE_FORMAT="RRRRMMDD" ORA_NLS33=$ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data ORACLE_TERM=vt100 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib PATH=$PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/bin umask 022 export NLS_LANG ORA_NLS33 PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH NLS_SORT export NLS_LANG NLS_DATE_FORMAT # # Java Stuff Goes Here # export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jre export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

...

Hi...

I'm trying to make a O.S user that could run the SQL PLUS, ORA OERR and other Oracle programs, I copy the .bash_profile and ALL the other /opt/oracle/* files including the hidden ones, but I'm still unable to use those programs ? why and what should I do ?

thanks

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I create the User with Yast and assign the default group to dba It has the same shell that the one that has the Oracle user. if I do a ls -la command it shows this: icarus:/home/kwebb # ls -la total 228 drwx------ 6 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:22 . drwxr-xr-x 4 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5742 Oct 2 13:18 .Xdefaults -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1305 Oct 2 13:18 .Xmodmap lrwxrwxrwx 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .Xresources -> .Xdefault -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 124 Oct 2 13:23 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 680 Oct 2 13:18 .bash_profile -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1392 Oct 2 13:18 .bashrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan.priv -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 208 Oct 2 13:18 .dvipsrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 4143 Oct 2 13:18 .emacs -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1124 Oct 2 13:18 .exrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5376 Oct 2 13:18 .gimprc drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .grok drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .hotjava -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7924 Oct 2 13:18 .jazz -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 164 Oct 2 13:18 .kermrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10376 Oct 2 13:18 .lyxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2286 Oct 2 13:18 .muttrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2070 Oct 2 13:18 .nc_keys -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 492 Oct 2 13:18 .profile drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .seyon -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 42 Oct 2 13:18 .stonxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 94 Oct 2 13:18 .susephone -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 8 Oct 2 13:18 .tex -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10972 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.console -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt100 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt102 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10687 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.xterm -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 324 Oct 2 13:18 .urlview -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 341 Oct 2 13:18 .vimrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7913 Oct 2 13:18 .xcoralrc drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .xfm -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2036 Oct 2 13:18 .xinitrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 795 Oct 2 13:18 .xserverrc.secure -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2751 Oct 2 13:18 .xsession -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 119 Oct 2 13:18 .xtalkrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .zsh also it's .bash_profile is: icarus:/home/kwebb # cat .bash_profile # # Oracle Stuff Goes Here # alias dir='ls -la' alias cls='clear' ORACLE_HOME=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6 ORACLE_BASE=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle ORACLE_OWNER=oracle ORACLE_SID=PRODUC export ORACLE_HOME ORACLE_BASE ORACLE_OWNER ORACLE_SID NLS_SORT=BINARY NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P9 NLS_DATE_FORMAT="RRRRMMDD" ORA_NLS33=$ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data ORACLE_TERM=vt100 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib PATH=$PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/bin umask 022 export NLS_LANG ORA_NLS33 PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH NLS_SORT export NLS_LANG NLS_DATE_FORMAT # # Java Stuff Goes Here # export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jre export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hi... I'm trying to make a O.S user that could run the SQL PLUS, ORA OERR and other Oracle programs, I copy the .bash_profile and ALL the other /opt/oracle/* files including the hidden ones, but I'm still unable to use those programs ? why and what should I do ? thanks -ed -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at <a href="http://www.suse.com/support/faq%A0%A0%A0%A0%A0" eudora="autourl">http://www.suse.com/support/faq </a> </blockquote>

wilson＠claborn.net

20:10

New subject: [SLE] Using oracle stuff with other users

Ack! You really didn't need to copy those extra dot-files. The only one you really needed to copy was .bash_profile actually, I wouldn't even have copied it, I would have just copied the oracle stuff. Try cleaning those files out and copying all the default stuff from /etc/skel then just copy the oracle sections into your .bash_profile. Let us know what happens then. JW Note: the the reason for this is because all the other dot-files have nothing to do with oracle At 01:56 PM 10/2/2000 -0600, you wrote:

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I create the User with Yast and assign the default group to dba

It has the same shell that the one that has the Oracle user.

if I do a ls -la command it shows this:

icarus:/home/kwebb # ls -la total 228 drwx------ 6 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:22 . drwxr-xr-x 4 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5742 Oct 2 13:18 .Xdefaults -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1305 Oct 2 13:18 .Xmodmap lrwxrwxrwx 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .Xresources -> .Xdefault -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 124 Oct 2 13:23 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 680 Oct 2 13:18 .bash_profile -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1392 Oct 2 13:18 .bashrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan.priv -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 208 Oct 2 13:18 .dvipsrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 4143 Oct 2 13:18 .emacs -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1124 Oct 2 13:18 .exrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5376 Oct 2 13:18 .gimprc drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .grok drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .hotjava -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7924 Oct 2 13:18 .jazz -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 164 Oct 2 13:18 .kermrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10376 Oct 2 13:18 .lyxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2286 Oct 2 13:18 .muttrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2070 Oct 2 13:18 .nc_keys -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 492 Oct 2 13:18 .profile drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .seyon -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 42 Oct 2 13:18 .stonxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 94 Oct 2 13:18 .susephone -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 8 Oct 2 13:18 .tex -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10972 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.console -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt100 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt102 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10687 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.xterm -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 324 Oct 2 13:18 .urlview -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 341 Oct 2 13:18 .vimrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7913 Oct 2 13:18 .xcoralrc drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .xfm -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2036 Oct 2 13:18 .xinitrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 795 Oct 2 13:18 .xserverrc.secure -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2751 Oct 2 13:18 .xsession -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 119 Oct 2 13:18 .xtalkrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .zsh

also it's .bash_profile is:

icarus:/home/kwebb # cat .bash_profile # # Oracle Stuff Goes Here # alias dir='ls -la' alias cls='clear'

ORACLE_HOME=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6 ORACLE_BASE=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle ORACLE_OWNER=oracle ORACLE_SID=PRODUC export ORACLE_HOME ORACLE_BASE ORACLE_OWNER ORACLE_SID NLS_SORT=BINARY NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P9 NLS_DATE_FORMAT="RRRRMMDD" ORA_NLS33=$ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data ORACLE_TERM=vt100 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib PATH=$PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/bin umask 022 export NLS_LANG ORA_NLS33 PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH NLS_SORT export NLS_LANG NLS_DATE_FORMAT # # Java Stuff Goes Here # export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jre export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

...
Hi...

I'm trying to make a O.S user that could run the SQL PLUS, ORA OERR and other Oracle programs, I copy the .bash_profile and ALL the other /opt/oracle/* files including the hidden ones, but I'm still unable to use those programs ? why and what should I do ?

thanks

-ed

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20:45

New subject: [SLE] Using oracle stuff with other users

Hi, I delete the user files and copy the .bash_profile and set the respective permisions of the user and to the group. but also have problems with running programs Thanks --ed icarus:/home/kwebb # ls -la total 28 drwx------ 6 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 14:29 . drwxr-xr-x 4 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .. -rwxrwxrwx 1 kwebb dba 680 Oct 2 14:29 .bash_profile drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .grok drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .hotjava drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .seyon drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .xfm icarus:/home/kwebb # whoami root icarus:/home/kwebb # su - kwebb kwebb@icarus:~ > sqlplus bash: sqlplus: command not found kwebb@icarus:~ > oerr ora 0600 bash: oerr: command not found kwebb@icarus:~ >

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Ack! You really didn't need to copy those extra dot-files. The only one you really needed to copy was .bash_profile actually, I wouldn't even have copied it, I would have just copied the oracle stuff. Try cleaning those files out and copying all the default stuff from /etc/skel then just copy the oracle sections into your .bash_profile.

Let us know what happens then.

JW

Note: the the reason for this is because all the other dot-files have nothing to do with oracle

At 01:56 PM 10/2/2000 -0600, you wrote:

...
I create the User with Yast and assign the default group to dba

It has the same shell that the one that has the Oracle user.

if I do a ls -la command it shows this:

icarus:/home/kwebb # ls -la total 228 drwx------ 6 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:22 . drwxr-xr-x 4 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5742 Oct 2 13:18 .Xdefaults -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1305 Oct 2 13:18 .Xmodmap lrwxrwxrwx 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .Xresources -> .Xdefault -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 124 Oct 2 13:23 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 680 Oct 2 13:18 .bash_profile -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1392 Oct 2 13:18 .bashrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan -rw------- 1 kwebb dba 0 Oct 2 13:18 .dayplan.priv -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 208 Oct 2 13:18 .dvipsrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 4143 Oct 2 13:18 .emacs -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 1124 Oct 2 13:18 .exrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 5376 Oct 2 13:18 .gimprc drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .grok drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .hotjava -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7924 Oct 2 13:18 .jazz -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 164 Oct 2 13:18 .kermrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10376 Oct 2 13:18 .lyxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2286 Oct 2 13:18 .muttrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 2070 Oct 2 13:18 .nc_keys -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 492 Oct 2 13:18 .profile drwx------ 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .seyon -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 42 Oct 2 13:18 .stonxrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 94 Oct 2 13:18 .susephone -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 8 Oct 2 13:18 .tex -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10972 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.console -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt100 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 9394 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.vt102 -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10687 Oct 2 13:18 .uitrc.xterm -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 324 Oct 2 13:18 .urlview -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 341 Oct 2 13:18 .vimrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 7913 Oct 2 13:18 .xcoralrc drwxr-xr-x 2 kwebb dba 4096 Oct 2 13:18 .xfm -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2036 Oct 2 13:18 .xinitrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 795 Oct 2 13:18 .xserverrc.secure -rwxr-xr-x 1 kwebb dba 2751 Oct 2 13:18 .xsession -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 119 Oct 2 13:18 .xtalkrc -rw-r--r-- 1 kwebb dba 10 Oct 2 13:18 .zsh

also it's .bash_profile is:

icarus:/home/kwebb # cat .bash_profile # # Oracle Stuff Goes Here # alias dir='ls -la' alias cls='clear'

ORACLE_HOME=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.6 ORACLE_BASE=/opt/oracle/8i/u01/app/oracle ORACLE_OWNER=oracle ORACLE_SID=PRODUC export ORACLE_HOME ORACLE_BASE ORACLE_OWNER ORACLE_SID NLS_SORT=BINARY NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P9 NLS_DATE_FORMAT="RRRRMMDD" ORA_NLS33=$ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data ORACLE_TERM=vt100 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib PATH=$PATH:$ORACLE_HOME/bin umask 022 export NLS_LANG ORA_NLS33 PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH NLS_SORT export NLS_LANG NLS_DATE_FORMAT # # Java Stuff Goes Here # export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jre export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

...
Hi...

I'm trying to make a O.S user that could run the SQL PLUS, ORA OERR and other Oracle programs, I copy the .bash_profile and ALL the other /opt/oracle/* files including the hidden ones, but I'm still unable to use those programs ? why and what should I do ?

thanks

-ed

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3 Oct 3 Oct

05:16

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Hi...

I'm trying to make a O.S user that could run the SQL PLUS, ORA OERR and other Oracle programs, I copy the .bash_profile and ALL the other /opt/oracle/* files including the hidden ones, but I'm still unable to use those programs ? why and what should I do ?

Install orarun.rpm from http://www.ssue.com/en/support/oracle/ -> Oracle 8.1.6 on SL 7.0 and re-login. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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