On Monday 03 March 2003 10:43 am, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Monday 03 March 2003 17:57, Jerry A! wrote:

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Okay, just ran into the problem that Ben was having. It appears that SuSEconfig.fonts just hangs. It appears as though fonts-config/fc-cache cannot finish traversing through some directories, and thus chokes. :(

Anyone have any ideas?

In my case it was hanging trying to read font cache files. I deleted all fonts.cache-1 files from the fonts directories, then ran SuSEconfig again. That worked for me.

I had the same hang, left it for 6 hours last night Did you have to do this in each font directory (as listed in do this in /etc/X11/XF86Config) or only certain ones. Has this solution worked for others? BTW, for those who don't have time to solve the problem right now, I found a work around I downgraded to the previous xf86tools(0.1-416) so at least I can keep working. Still no dri/gl on my radeon7500 -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com!

Tried it and almost. Saw it run the perioids (........) while doing it thing with xft cache build but once again it hung. Any other ideas or places to look. By the way, what version of Yast are you using and did you build these new xserver from tarballs or susefied rpms? Cheers, Curtis. On Monday 03 March 2003 21:34, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Tuesday 04 March 2003 04:24, David Herman wrote:

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I had the same hang, left it for 6 hours last night Did you have to do this in each font directory (as listed in do this in /etc/X11/XF86Config) or only certain ones.

I deleted all fonts.cache-1 files with

find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts -name fonts.cache-1 -exec rm {} \;

and I deleted the XftCache files the same way, for good measure, but I could see that the process was hanging reading one of the fonts.cache files

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Has this solution worked for others?

No idea

Anders

* Anders Johansson (andjoh@rydsbo.net) [030303 23:58]: ->On Tuesday 04 March 2003 05:07, Curtis Rey wrote: ->> Tried it and almost. Saw it run the perioids (........) while doing it ->> thing with xft cache build but once again it hung. Any other ideas or ->> places to look. -> ->None. And since neither Ben nor Jerry A! has commented on it, maybe it just ->works on my system?! I don't know I did what you did and removed every cache file in the fonts directory and then ran SuSEconfig again. It went through it fine this time. I still can't get GLX to work it errors loading the libGL driver. This isn't a huge deal for me since this is my desktop at work..I would be a little more inclined to revert back to 4.2.0 if this were my home machine. Since there are no 8.0 pkgs for 4.3.0 ..I'm in no danger of having to fight with this at home. ;) -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.

* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030304 00:39]: ->Ya, I did what Anders suggested and it still hangs at the fonts config part. ->Can't boot to gui w/o fonts. It's really should be this way, especially since ->I got the nvidia drivers working in beta-1 for 82 with 3D. I used the ->4191.ul1.i586 packages and then sax2. I know I'd be fine if I could just get ->SuSeconfig to get past the fonts stage. Right now I'm using yast to rm the ->new xf86 files and reinstall the original ones. -> ->I hope they come up with a fix soon, this is extremely frustrating. Are you sure you removed *all* the cache files? Once I did this it indexed all 202M of fonts I have installed without issue. I'm thinking you missed a font cache file...give it another shot. Do this "find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts -print | grep cache" This should show you all of them..delete every single one of them. latah. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.

Try using the 4191.ul1.i586.rpm's. The version of X in beta1 82 is 4.2.0-99 and is the last rc candidate. I got my GF2-mx400 running and Sax configed it. I think on of the problems is that sax in 81 and earlier need updating, I can't even get it to initialize any more. I will give Bens idea a shot and if it doesn't work then all I can say is I'm glad I segrated the /home/<user> and /usr/local partitions. Because I really don't have too much time to mess with this stuff. I hate to have to reinstall and format, update, reconfig. But, I really don't know what else to do. Im in the beta for email right now (not a big fan of console base mail progs). I did read the README and it says at the very bottom as a work around for this issue do a rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.cache-1.gz rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.cache-1.gz rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.cache-1.gz rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/fonts.cache-1.gz rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fonts.cache-1.gz I have already done this, but I'll grep the cache file as per Ben and the issue your suggested command. I assume you all upgraded the Sax2 packs on the site as well? I did. It's late and im crashing, so hopefully tomorrow I'll kick this beast in the butt. Thx all and wish me luck! Curtis ! On Tuesday 04 March 2003 03:32, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:

* Ben Rosenberg (Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:43:05AM -0800)

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* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030304 00:39]: ->Ya, I did what Anders suggested and it still hangs at the fonts config part. ->Can't boot to gui w/o fonts. It's really should be this way, especially since ->I got the nvidia drivers working in beta-1 for 82 with 3D. I used the ->4191.ul1.i586 packages and then sax2. I know I'd be fine if I could just get ->SuSeconfig to get past the fonts stage. Right now I'm using yast to rm the ->new xf86 files and reinstall the original ones. -> ->I hope they come up with a fix soon, this is extremely frustrating.

Are you sure you removed *all* the cache files? Once I did this it indexed all 202M of fonts I have installed without issue.

I'm thinking you missed a font cache file...give it another shot.

Do this "find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts -print | grep cache"

This should show you all of them..delete every single one of them.

cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts rm */*cache* worked just fine for me.

Now if only someone could tell me how to get NVidia working again No GLX means Ill have to step back to 4.2.whatever

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* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030304 02:15]: -> ->I have already done this, but I'll grep the cache file as per Ben and the ->issue your suggested command. I assume you all upgraded the Sax2 packs on ->the site as well? I did. -> ->It's late and im crashing, so hopefully tomorrow I'll kick this beast in the ->butt. Yep. I did update to the latest build of sax2 and it pukes on itself. It won't start. Good thing I had a backup of my XF86Config file which does work...well sans GLX. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.

* Curtis Rey (Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 11:15:20AM -0600)

Well, got X 43 to install. It was all about the fonts.cache-1.gz. I did what Now the ever continuing saga of the X upgrade is KDE has no fonts. I't

That's where I got stuck as well, and decided to reread my Xfree864.2.X from last nights backup .. for some reason my truetype font dir got broken. I blame i ont eh fact that I did it on a 7.3 system. It works fine (after some hassles) on an 8.1 system though

displays all things gui except the fonts - none, zip, zilch, nada. not to mention the popups/windows (e.g. kde control center and yast kde mods) all are about 3 or 4 screens wide - lol. I am loading in the fonts from the 81 disks and a few others like the perl pkgs, and a reinstall of fvwm2 (seems it's need bigtime). I think I got the nvidia 3D working as well since it is loaded and enabled in the xf86config file and I get no error message. It's all about the fonts. Ugh!

Thx for the help (as well as Anders and Gerhard). Cheers, Curtis.

On Tuesday 04 March 2003 10:24, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

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* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030304 02:15]: -> ->I have already done this, but I'll grep the cache file as per Ben and the ->issue your suggested command. I assume you all upgraded the Sax2 packs on ->the site as well? I did. -> ->It's late and im crashing, so hopefully tomorrow I'll kick this beast in the ->butt.

Yep. I did update to the latest build of sax2 and it pukes on itself. It won't start. Good thing I had a backup of my XF86Config file which does work...well sans GLX.

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On Tuesday 04 March 2003 12:24 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

Ok, you guys will love this! I start kde. NO FONTS - as before - no surpise. So, i have icons. I can see the little wrench on the taskbar. I open it see the icon "TT" - open it. I recognize the "Adjust All Fonts" button - open.

So, now I go and highlight the little ~1mm big sections for the various fonts - and mind you I can't see the fonts at the moment. press apply - nothing, go to next, apply, nothing, and on and on..... until I press apply and BOOM = Fonts! not I go into the fonts installer and install every frelling font. I'm doing it as I type - hope this doesn't present new problems and works as it should. Frankly, I'm not all that confident.

Cheers, Curtis.

Hi Curtis, I felt hopeful when I read Joe Sullivans tip earlier so I tried again, got rid of all the font.cache files, including the ones in /usr/share/fonts/all my msfont dirs... ran SuSEconfig, it acually finished Tried logging in to kde, no fonts as expected (actially non-kde fonts were working fine) Logging into gnome or fluxbox work nicely as long as I stay away from kde apps. went to the control center found fonts and started looking. Nothing there for at least 16 screen widths! x finally crashed when the kcontrolcenter got wide enough. Tried adjusting some .config files in my ~home dir, no help downgraded (again) to xf86tools0.1-416 4.3 works fine here (except for the lack of 3d on my radeon 7500, as long as I don't upgrade xf86tools beyond 0.1-416 (the previous version). Also the new sax files gave me no confidence (and crappy results) so I downgraded these as well. The only other time I have had so much trouble w/ an upgrade was w/ gnome 1.4 upgrades for suse 7.2. Indignant Griper Mode ON This upgrade of Xfree86 should have NEVER made it to the SuSE ftp servers. It does a terrible disservice to an otherwise excellent distribution, and can do nothing but make SuSE look bad. There is no way I could expect a linux newbie to deal with the problems this upgrade presented. Had m$ released an upgrade as horrendous as this Fred Miller would have been all over it. In fairness to SuSE they do make it clear in the read me that this is an "Unsupported Upgrade" and give appropriate warning. Indignant Griper Mode OFF Hope your upgrade sticks, as for me, I'll keep trying as new suggestions appear, but I've kind of lost hope. See Ya -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com!

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 01:32, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:

* Ben Rosenberg (Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 12:43:05AM -0800)

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* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030304 00:39]: ->Ya, I did what Anders suggested and it still hangs at the fonts config part. ->Can't boot to gui w/o fonts. It's really should be this way, especially since ->I got the nvidia drivers working in beta-1 for 82 with 3D. I used the ->4191.ul1.i586 packages and then sax2. I know I'd be fine if I could just get ->SuSeconfig to get past the fonts stage. Right now I'm using yast to rm the ->new xf86 files and reinstall the original ones. -> ->I hope they come up with a fix soon, this is extremely frustrating.

Are you sure you removed *all* the cache files? Once I did this it indexed all 202M of fonts I have installed without issue.

I'm thinking you missed a font cache file...give it another shot.

Do this "find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts -print | grep cache"

This should show you all of them..delete every single one of them.

cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts rm */*cache* worked just fine for me.

Now if only someone could tell me how to get NVidia working again No GLX means Ill have to step back to 4.2.whatever

Kind regards, --

Had the same issue with 3D, but was fixed by running sax2 and switch2nvidia_glx. "You must configure XFree86 4.3.0 with sax2 -m 0=nvidia (0 is a digit, not a letter!)" Where you downloaded the RPM's there is a README text with the above. As for Radeon's, I believe the answer may lie in the Readme file, which I shall not post here as it is rather large and can be easily downloaded from the same place the RPM's are found. Hope this helps. Matt

Hello SuSE folks; Have been following this thread with great interest, as I am presently downloading the files. I have already upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1 and KDE 3.0 to 3.1 about a month ago using apt-get. There were several issues but most were resolved. (Thanks Richard) Seems that the present issue for me is going to be the Xfree86 upgrade. Are these font problems a result of the Xfree86 upgrade or the 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade? With that in mind, what would you guys and gals whom have suffered through this already, recommend? Do the install, delete all of the fonts caches, run SuSEconfig, and keep my fingers crossed?? Bob S.