[opensuse] Bye bye Sue 10.3
It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3. I will be back regularly to update 10.3 and see if it has improved enough to get it working on my machine. For now I have at least a working platform. If this is the direction of newer software I see black for older hardware. Lets not give up hope. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 08:45:30PM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3.
Which bugzilla entries do you have open for this bugs? Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 15:07 +0100, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3.
Which bugzilla entries do you have open for this bugs?
I also can't use my TV card, and yes, there is a Bugzilla or two. I removed the card and use and old B/W, real, tv instead. :-/ - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHX/xQtTMYHG2NR9URAmitAJ9Csp65zl8rK0e6WebieYBkqZNUEQCfaEiN ZYJpUUceJW8VxwIexpqPg7g= =ZSrh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3. I will be back regularly to update 10.3 and see if it has improved enough to get it working on my machine. For now I have at least a working platform. If this is the direction of newer software I see black for older hardware. Lets not give up hope.
Hi, I would be interested in how Xubuntu behaves on your hardware. I use it for anything that is older than a P4 and it works greatly. Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3. I will be back regularly to update 10.3 and see if it has improved enough to get it working on my machine. For now I have at least a working platform. If this is the direction of newer software I see black for older hardware. Lets not give up hope.
it's of non use to change to a newer distro (eventually, when it becomes obsolete, but it's not the case of 10.2) a working system :-) however, losing a cd seems too much, even for a new distro. if not a hardware problem, fill a bugreport, thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 12 December 2007, jdd wrote:
Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3. I will be back regularly to update 10.3 and see if it has improved enough to get it working on my machine. For now I have at least a working platform. If this is the direction of newer software I see black for older hardware. Lets not give up hope.
it's of non use to change to a newer distro (eventually, when it becomes obsolete, but it's not the case of 10.2) a working system :-)
however, losing a cd seems too much, even for a new distro. if not a hardware problem, fill a bugreport, thanks
Not a hardware problem because it works in 10.2 ;). Thanks all for the idea of bug report. Will be the next thing I will do after looking for more than two weeks for my cdrom. That my TV card stopped working was not discovered until some days ago. A reason for me to first go back to my 10.2 and than look for solutions. Have to find out how bug reports work but that can be certainly be found in Wiki and such. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 22:36 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Have to find out how bug reports work but that can be certainly be found in Wiki and such.
http://en.opensuse.org/Report_a_Bug - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYGkUtTMYHG2NR9URAkxZAJ42+w3kLox1Kjw9JPN1HQoHJY6vAgCgmL4D FhVXiM2RUmxlBX6m9uOf7Y0= =rRo/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
just wanna say good bye too, because i am going to home for a while.... n i will rarely check my email account (due to 50 MB quota of this account... now have reached 93.2% of 50MB) i have done this mail to "opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org" for unsubscribing..... many times ....but im still sticky with this super-active mailing list.... can u tell me how to solve this problem?
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The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 22:36 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
Have to find out how bug reports work but that can be certainly be found in Wiki and such.
http://en.opensuse.org/Report_a_Bug
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-12-13 at 07:45 +0700, chika wrote:
just wanna say good bye too, because i am going to home for a while.... n i will rarely check my email account (due to 50 MB quota of this account... now have reached 93.2% of 50MB)
i have done this mail to "opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org" for unsubscribing..... many times ....but im still sticky with this super-active mailing list....
You will receive a confirmation email, and you have to answer that one. The answer can be empty, the important thing is the reply address. That's all. If your spam filter removes that confirmation, check your spam folder. If your provider removes it, complain to them, and contact the list owner so that he removes you manually. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYIe9tTMYHG2NR9URApsqAKCVAb+Cyb7sTmdbFRIhxJtoRCxmSgCff+Ia gmuAyoB9kYZYCWNMfsHiTuQ= =mBgu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
chika wrote:
just wanna say good bye too, because i am going to home for a while.... n i will rarely check my email account (due to 50 MB quota of this account... now have reached 93.2% of 50MB)
i have done this mail to "opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org" for unsubscribing..... many times ....but im still sticky with this super-active mailing list....
can u tell me how to solve this problem?
very easy. Switch using this lively mailing list from getting each mail to just reading without getting the mail. This works via a newsreader and gmane. I do this for very long now and apart from the occasional gmane server failure, I am totally happy that I can use the list without getting overflooded by mail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Dec 12, 2007 8:45 AM, Constant Brouerius van Nidek
It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3. I will be back regularly to update 10.3 and see if it has improved enough to get it working on my machine. For now I have at least a working platform. If this is the direction of newer software I see black for older hardware. Lets not give up hope.
Can't help you with the TV, but I bet the fix in the release notes to use the old drivers ide code will get you that CD drive back. There seem to be a number of problems with the new libata drivers and optical disks. Sounds like you hit one of them. Tejun Heo of Novell is trying to get a big collection of "ATAPI" related fixes into the vanilla kernel, and I assume they will eventually come out for 10.3's kernel. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dude,
Sorry to here about your PII , but, cough up the 50$ and buy a used PIII.
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It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3. I will be back regularly to update 10.3 and see if it has improved enough to get it working on my machine. For now I have at least a working platform. If this is the direction of newer software I see black for older hardware. Lets not give up hope. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should. Have no idea what has changed within the two versions but with my older hardware, a P II I ran into too much troubles with 10.3. I will be back regularly to update 10.3 and see if it has improved enough to get it working on my machine. For now I have at least a working platform. If this is the direction of newer software I see black for older hardware. Lets not give up hope.
Can't help you with the TV, but I bet the fix in the release notes to use the old drivers ide code will get you that CD drive back.
There seem to be a number of problems with the new libata drivers and optical disks. Sounds like you hit one of them. Tejun Heo of Novell is trying to get a big collection of "ATAPI" related fixes into the vanilla kernel, and I assume they will eventually come out for 10.3's kernel.
Dear Greg, Looked into the libata discussion, took a look at work from Tejun Heo and did not understand a thing. Thought though that it had something to do with my CDrom problems. Looked at his patches and do not know how they could help me for the moment. The discussion was also not very clear about the particulair problems where Tejun was working on. Glad that you more or less confirm that my problem may be around for a solution. ;) My TV is of lesser importance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
It was nice playing around with 10.3 but after loosing the use of my CDrom and unable to use my TV card I am back now with 10.2 where everything functions as it should.
I don't know what problems do you have with the TV card but you can try looking to bug #330109 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=330109). Check whether the card is in the blacklist (run 'hwinfo --tv' as root to get the PCI alias). -- Best Regards Ladislav Slezák Yast Developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: lslezak@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-01-08 at 08:13 +0100, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
I don't know what problems do you have with the TV card but you can try looking to bug #330109 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=330109). Check whether the card is in the blacklist (run 'hwinfo --tv' as root to get the PCI alias).
For instance, the hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1300 support is broken in 10.3. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHg4HQtTMYHG2NR9URAj9VAJ9aGnwvztXmRCEAd3W2RIP36rO0GgCeLPwC 3Np5tcEfC7eD1a/MFlmiVkY= =MzY2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 02:59:43PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2008-01-08 at 08:13 +0100, Ladislav Slezak wrote:
I don't know what problems do you have with the TV card but you can try looking to bug #330109 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=330109). Check whether the card is in the blacklist (run 'hwinfo --tv' as root to get the PCI alias).
For instance, the hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1300 support is broken in 10.3.
Is this listed in above bugzilla? Or is there a bugzilla for this issue? Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-01-08 at 16:13 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
For instance, the hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1300 support is broken in 10.3.
Is this listed in above bugzilla?
Or is there a bugzilla for this issue?
In another one, already closed (328771 and 328773). It is also broken upstream, as far as I know: I had to patch the kernel to make it run: ] Try and edit tveeprom.c and change ] ] { TUNER_ABSENT, "Philips FMD1216MEX"}, ] with ] { TUNER_PHILIPS_FMD1216ME_MK3, "Philips FMD1216MEX"}, And after that, the analog tuner worked, but slow (no overlay mode), and with no sound. Even the digital part has no overlay mode, meaning high cpu usage, and pauses. I removed the card as useless. I turned to a B&W "real" TV instead (4"), which in turn was replaced a week ago by a second hand 15" TFT hanging from a nail in the wall. I bought that card because it was reported as working. I wrote a note in the wiki stating that it doesn't, so that others are not mislead. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHg5uMtTMYHG2NR9URArfSAJ9CWAoi46nvWnQ+3jdCEkjPEv8MNQCeOJjz /KGTMjtNUgHPtITycCPL92c= =Rwvm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R. -
chika -
Constant Brouerius van nidek -
Constant Brouerius van Nidek
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Dr. Werner Fink -
Eberhard Roloff -
Greg Freemyer -
James Tremblay -
jdd -
Ladislav Slezak -
Marcus Meissner