Hello. I am attempting to install the 8.1 upgrade. I get to the point in the install where it ask if I want a new install, or an upgrade. I select upgrade. Then I am at the screen where I am asked if I want to upgrade to a standard distro, or upgrade only installed packages, as well as asked to remove non-supported packages. From upgrading another computer, I know that under choice one should be three choices, something like "default, with KDE without KDE' I am not given thoise three choices. Regardless of what I select here, I am told there are no packages to upgrade. Can someone provide any assistance?
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 00:54, Timtohy wrote:
Hello.
I am attempting to install the 8.1 upgrade. (...)
Can someone provide any assistance?
Hi Timothy, It's always a difficult stories with updating. I found out, that it is easier to back up your own stuff and do a clean install. To make this easier next time, create a separate /home partition which will not be involved in the install process. Cheers .... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net Linux ... the better OS!
Hi, I had 1 machine that updated from 8.0 to 8.1 and it worked like a charm, everything works well and no problems(except Evolution). On my other machine the update failed, so here I installed from scratch after backing up the data. The advice below is a good one for future upgrades. Regards, Jostein On Tuesday 12 November 2002 05:40, wolfi wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 00:54, Timtohy wrote:
Hello.
I am attempting to install the 8.1 upgrade. (...)
Can someone provide any assistance?
Hi Timothy,
It's always a difficult stories with updating. I found out, that it is easier to back up your own stuff and do a clean install. To make this easier next time, create a separate /home partition which will not be involved in the install process.
Cheers .... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net
Linux ... the better OS!
I am attempting to install the 8.1 upgrade. (...)
Can someone provide any assistance?
w> I found out, that it is easier to back up your own stuff and do a w> clean install. To make this easier next time, create a separate w> /home partition which will not be involved in the install process. That's what we do too. We haven't been with SuSE that long, but through the school of hard knocks, we've come to the conclusion it is quicker for us to backup user files and configuration files, and do a clean install. Even then it isn't perfect, but at least your not fighting conversion problems. -- __________________________ DJ mailto: linux_programmer@hotmail.com
Hi! I'm using linux for a while and you told to create a separate /home partition? I think this wiil be best when I will reinstall... How it really works? When I install I create /, /boot and /home? And after, when will reinstall a new system the content of /home will still be on the hard disk? Thanks for your tricks On November 11, 2002 23:40, wolfi wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 00:54, Timtohy wrote:
Hello.
I am attempting to install the 8.1 upgrade. (...)
Can someone provide any assistance?
Hi Timothy,
It's always a difficult stories with updating. I found out, that it is easier to back up your own stuff and do a clean install. To make this easier next time, create a separate /home partition which will not be involved in the install process.
Cheers .... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net
Linux ... the better OS!
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 03:20, Martin Richard wrote:
Hi!
I'm using linux for a while and you told to create a separate /home partition? I think this wiil be best when I will reinstall... How it really works? When I install I create /, /boot and /home? And after, when will reinstall a new system the content of /home will still be on the hard disk?
Thanks for your tricks
Hi Martin, You have to enter the expert partitioning menu during setup. Once you got your /home partition and you do a new clean install of the next version, you include this partition as /home BUT without formatting, of course - formatting would kill your data. To be absolutely sure, you can make a backup anyway. The expert partitioning menu is self explaining for anyone from advanced beginner level onwards, I dare say. Cheers .... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net Linux ... the better OS!
T> install where it ask if I want a new install, or an upgrade. I select T> upgrade. . . . Regardless of what I select here, I am told T> there are no packages to upgrade. Sorry, I can't help. But I'll watch replies to you attentively. I have the same problem at the same point in the install -- *whether* I choose a new install, *or* an upgrade. So far, the advice I was given was "abort, then repeat, and within a few abort-repeat sequences it should work." I've tried over 20 abort-repeat sequences so far: always dropping right after the suggested partitioning appears and when the selection should next appear (but doesn't) to linuxrc with a red "an error has occurred". This on a Compaq Proliant 1600 (PII/400 w/128M RAM & 2 9.1G SCSI HDs + ATAPI CD-ROM & floppy & SCSI DAT) that will let me put W98 or SuSE 7.0 on it (the last version I bought) any time I want; but won't--well, has refused over two dozen times to--take 8.1 either from scratch (freshly formatted a number of times) or as an upgrade to 7.0 (whether minimal or default) or as a writeover. I've tried the suggested apm=off and acpi=off additions, safe installation and manual installation and text-based installation. So I wish you luck with helpful advice, because I'll be reading too, to glean some hints. Michael Trittipo tritt002@tc.umn.edu
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Michael Trittipo wrote:
This on a Compaq Proliant 1600 (PII/400 w/128M RAM & 2 9.1G SCSI HDs + ATAPI CD-ROM & floppy & SCSI DAT) that will let me put W98 or SuSE 7.0 on it (the last version I bought) any time I want; but won't--well, has refused over two dozen times to--take 8.1 either from scratch (freshly formatted a number of times) or as an upgrade to 7.0 (whether minimal or default) or as a writeover. I've tried the suggested apm=off and acpi=off additions, safe installation and manual installation and text-based installation. So I wish you luck with helpful advice, because I'll be reading too, to glean some hints.
A couple of suggestions: 1) 7.0 to 8.1 is a huge jump. I wouldn't even attempt an update from anything older than 8.0. 2) Boot from CD #2 instead of CD #1. It has a simplified initrd which works better on older hardware. HTH, Rick Green
Rick Green wrote:
has refused over two dozen times to--take 8.1 either from scratch (freshly formatted a number of times) or as an upgrade to 7.0 . . .
A couple of suggestions:
1) 7.0 to 8.1 is a huge jump. I wouldn't even attempt an update from anything older than 8.0.
2) Boot from CD #2 instead of CD #1. It has a simplified initrd which works better on older hardware.
Thanks. Unfortunately, as I wrote, the very same failure occurs at the very same place even when trying an install from scratch, on a brand-new freshly formatted hard drive with no recollection of 7.0 (in fact, I put 7.0 on, minimal, in the hope of fixing the issue with the install from a totally clean slate not working). Also unfortunately, the error occurs after CD2 has already said "OK, I'm done, please switch back to CD1 now for the remainder" (and won't itself, as far as I can tell, do anything more). About a week after my first request, SuSE support sent me a response saying "try aborting & reinstalling, aborting & reinstalling a few times" (& the apm, acpi points). I've written them again; maybe within the next week they'll write back with something else to try. But thanks for the suggestion. Is there a way to force install to proceed further from CD2 than it naturally wants to, i.e., past the point where CD2 now says to eject it and replace it with CD1?
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