[opensuse] Is the Suse Linux 10.0 repository gone?
Hello, a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404". In particular access fails via http://download.opensuse.org/ while there seems to be something accessible via http://ftp5.gwdg.de/ Is Suse Linux 10.0 no longer available? If yes, there was probably a big announcement but at least I missed it and additionally it seems I am blind because I don't find it on openSUSE.org. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 28 March 2008 07:13:19 am Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404".
Interesting. Looks like 10.0 and 10.1 are gone from the mirrors I checked. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 28 March 2008 07:18:31 am Kai Ponte wrote:
On Friday 28 March 2008 07:13:19 am Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404".
Interesting. Looks like 10.0 and 10.1 are gone from the mirrors I checked.
Ack! Pfft! They're not under openSUSE. They're under SUSE. Doh! -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 07:19 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Friday 28 March 2008 07:18:31 am Kai Ponte wrote:
On Friday 28 March 2008 07:13:19 am Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404".
Interesting. Looks like 10.0 and 10.1 are gone from the mirrors I checked.
Ack! Pfft!
They're not under openSUSE. They're under SUSE.
Doh!
Glad to hear it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 07:18 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Friday 28 March 2008 07:13:19 am Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404".
Interesting. Looks like 10.0 and 10.1 are gone from the mirrors I checked.
I still have systems on those two releases. :( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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From: "Mike McMullin"
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 07:18 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Friday 28 March 2008 07:13:19 am Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404".
Interesting. Looks like 10.0 and 10.1 are gone from the mirrors I checked.
I still have systems on those two releases. :(
Me too. Large production ones where the users are all interactive login users, not web services, so they will not be upgraded or migrated without dire need. Luckily I have the retail dvd and luckily I made copies and images, so when I need to install some app I didn't install originally, I can, but what about all the updates after the dvd was cut? *sigh* life with linux... -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Brian K. White wrote:
Me too. Large production ones where the users are all interactive login users, not web services, so they will not be upgraded or migrated without dire need. Luckily I have the retail dvd and luckily I made copies and images, so when I need to install some app I didn't install originally, I can, but what about all the updates after the dvd was cut?
*sigh* life with linux...
If you run SLES you're supported for a minimum of 7 years. Was it not understood that you were using the consumer version? Do you really expect a linux vendor to support a freely downloadable product forever, when they offer an enterprise product that was made to address your long term support issues? Just a thought - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joe Sloan wrote:
Brian K. White wrote:
Me too. Large production ones where the users are all interactive login users, not web services, so they will not be upgraded or migrated without dire need. Luckily I have the retail dvd and luckily I made copies and images, so when I need to install some app I didn't install originally, I can, but what about all the updates after the dvd was cut?
*sigh* life with linux...
If you run SLES you're supported for a minimum of 7 years. Was it not understood that you were using the consumer version?
Do you really expect a linux vendor to support a freely downloadable product forever, when they offer an enterprise product that was made to address your long term support issues?
Just a thought -
I think you are right about this. All of us get free os during testing, and when most bugs are out, the repo dissappears. But best for us is to move on anyway ;) -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (Now or never...) Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.25-rc6-git5-10-default x86_64 Current user: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 System: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha3 KDE: 4.00.66 (KDE 4.0.66 >= 20080313) "release 6.2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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From: "Joe Sloan"
Brian K. White wrote:
Me too. Large production ones where the users are all interactive login users, not web services, so they will not be upgraded or migrated without dire need. Luckily I have the retail dvd and luckily I made copies and images, so when I need to install some app I didn't install originally, I can, but what about all the updates after the dvd was cut?
*sigh* life with linux...
If you run SLES you're supported for a minimum of 7 years. Was it not understood that you were using the consumer version?
There are advantages and disadvantages to a commercial unix. There are advantages and disadvantages to a typical free linux dist. sles, rhel, et al are the worst of both worlds. There are many considered and weighed reasons why I use opensuse specifically. Not sles, not rhel, not centos, not ubuntu, not a debian based roll-your-own, not a gentoo based roll-your-own, not freebsd, not SCO, though each of those has one or more certain aspects that are superior to the rest. And each has one or more aspects that are inferior to the rest. But of all of those, sles and rhel are the worst combination of pros & cons, and imo, opensuse is the best. Describing all that actually went into that evaluation would take more writing than even I care to do and even more explaining of most points raused or claims made, and probably much of it futily because it would just devolve into a religeous flame war because I would have the audacity to claim that the most efficient and practical system to use for my customers back room kind of usage (ie: specialized in-house business applications, not typical isp web services) by a ridiculous margin was SCO up to about a year after Darl started. And none of the facts would matter any more at that point because you know, SCO is evil, and before they were evil they were old and the default shell wasn't bash and thus baffled and frustrated any linux kiddie that encountered one, which they rarely did because it cost $1200 for 5 users and no c compiler, and so by them the OS was generally pronounced teh suck. Meanwhile far more significant issues like the puny amount of administrative overhead required to properly administer 10 or 15 years of boxes because the latest version is fanatically backwards compatible with the first version, installed in shops with no on site IT staff, are not even on their radar. Yes, I know exactly what opensuse is and what it isn't, and I also know what sles is and what it isn't. -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-03-30 at 13:00 -0400, Brian K. White wrote:
Me too. Large production ones where the users are all interactive login users, not web services, so they will not be upgraded or migrated without dire need. Luckily I have the retail dvd and luckily I made copies and images, so when I need to install some app I didn't install originally, I can, but what about all the updates after the dvd was cut?
You just have to use the correct server and path for the updates. They are out there, usually under /pub/suse/discontinued/, but not on all mirrors, of course. I have seen the tree for version five o six something... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH8SgOtTMYHG2NR9URAvi2AJ45YTQH4UVKWgukRYuwO65pQQDKrQCeMUoK Xd2p1K/KLr/rxnVUf46wJ5g= =wMdy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 03:13:19PM +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404".
In particular access fails via http://download.opensuse.org/ while there seems to be something accessible via http://ftp5.gwdg.de/
Is Suse Linux 10.0 no longer available? If yes, there was probably a big announcement but at least I missed it and additionally it seems I am blind because I don't find it on openSUSE.org.
You mean e.g. this one: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2008-01/msg00001.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2008-01/msg00000.html Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Mar 28 15:35 Marcus Meissner wrote (shortened):
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 03:13:19PM +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:
a user told me that http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories lists repositories for version 10.0 but access results usually "Error 404". ... Is Suse Linux 10.0 no longer available? If yes, there was probably a big announcement but at least I missed it and additionally it seems I am blind because I don't find it on openSUSE.org.
You mean e.g. this one: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2008-01/msg00001.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2008-01/msg00000.html
Thanks for the info. I know this announcement but I misunderstood it. I thought that it means only that there are no further update/bugfix packages for Suse Linux 10.0 but not that this also implies that the whole Suse Linux 10.0 repositories are no longer available. By the way: I think it would be nice if there was a central place at the opensuse.org web site (not only in the mail archive) where the "curriculum vitae" for each of our products is documented. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Johannes Meixner escribió:
but not that this also implies that the whole Suse Linux 10.0 repositories are no longer available.
Mirrors need to free space from time to time.. ;) -- “If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in.” – Edsger Dijkstra Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-03-28 at 20:39 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
but not that this also implies that the whole Suse Linux 10.0 repositories are no longer available.
Mirrors need to free space from time to time.. ;)
The "history" doesn't need to be mirrored everywhere, but it would be nice to know that old, even obsolete, versions are still available somewhere. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH7Zk3tTMYHG2NR9URAgt/AKCEEkYtoJJK3rM+NmTSG5W0xrjeHACghjL3 L9fytGxirhsOtPZ3iZAKrg4= =OVhj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Brian K. White -
Carlos E. R. -
Cristian Rodríguez -
Joe Sloan -
Johannes Meixner -
Kai Ponte -
Marcus Meissner -
Mike McMullin -
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