On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 13:41 +0100, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Sat 30 June 2007 21:17:19 Clayton wrote:

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Don't know if anyone here is aware of this (it's not listed at http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories )

Google has an openSUSE repository. Full detailed instructions on how to add the repo is here: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/suse102.html

I get a 404 Not Found from the suggested http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 - http://dl.google.com/linux doesn't seem to exist, which means that the instructions for all the Linux distros will not work. That makes me wonder about how well-maintained the site is ....

it appears, adding http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 as a source does work... -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket,NH http://en.opensuse.org/Education "let's make a difference" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I get a 404 Not Found from the suggested http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 - http://dl.google.com/linux doesn't seem to exist, which means that the instructions for all the Linux distros will not work. That makes me wonder about how well-maintained the site is ....

It's an RPM-MD (YUM) repo. You don't go to it with a browser - it's not a URL you can browse. Add it as a repo either in YAST as the instructions tell or in Smart and it will work perfectly. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 01 July 2007 07:41, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Sat 30 June 2007 21:17:19 Clayton wrote:

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Don't know if anyone here is aware of this (it's not listed at http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories )

Google has an openSUSE repository. Full detailed instructions on how to add the repo is here: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/suse102.html

I get a 404 Not Found from the suggested http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 - http://dl.google.com/linux doesn't seem to exist, which means that the instructions for all the Linux distros will not work. That makes me wonder about how well-maintained the site is ....

-- Pob hwyl / Best wishes

Hi Kevin, Repository is OK, but it doesn't let you browse with browser. Try this to include repository: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/yast2.html Installed Picasa seems not to load on x86_64 system. I can't see a trace with "ps x". The other program I can see in repository is: google-desktop-linux -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 07/01/2007 Kevin Donnelly wrote:

I get a 404 Not Found from the suggested http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 - http://dl.google.com/linux doesn't seem to exist, which means that the instructions for all the Linux distros will not work. That makes me wonder about how well-maintained the site is ....

When I tried to look into the site I got the same thing. BUT, when I put it in Yast Install Source it worked. I then went into Software Management and searched for "google" with all the box's checked. Didn't find to much. Did a search for "google earth", nothing. I don't know what the heck is in there but it seems a valid [ acceptable ] Yast source. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 02 July 2007 10:38, Sunny wrote:

On 7/2/07, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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So it appears Google Desktop works on SuSE Linux 10.0. It will no doubt be quite a while before indexing is complete. The indexing status report says 1.8% complete with 5.7 idle hours to go.

Finally, my decision to not try to organize my mountain of downloaded research papers appears to be vindicated.

Randall Schulz

Sorry for the hijack, but looks like related - does anybody has a list of the differences between GoogleDesktop and beagle? Including performance monitoring, etc.

I can tell you that on my 10.0 system, one key difference is that Google Desktop works while Beagle's lookup interface does not. I'm not saying the software is at fault, I may have managed to break it somehow, but as it stands, I cannot perform beagle queries, even though every morning I get those voluminous reports on the indexer's activities overnight. To wit: beagle-query "Unification" ** (beagle-query:32088): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /usr/lib/beagle/Util.dll could not be loaded: Assembly: gconf-sharp (assemblyref_index=7) Version: 2.8.0.0 Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr/lib/beagle). ** (beagle-query:32088): WARNING **: The class GConf.Client could not be loaded, used in gconf-sharp, Version=2.8.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=35e10195dab3c99f Could not connect to the Beagle daemon. The daemon probably isn't running. Beagle.ResponseMessageException: Connection refused System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: Connection refused in [0x000e0] System.Net.Sockets.Socket:Connect (System.Net.EndPoint remote_end) in [0x0000d] (at /usr/src/packages/BUILD/mono-1.1.13.2/mcs/class/Mono.Posix/Mono.Unix/UnixClient.cs:170) Mono.Unix.UnixClient:Connect (Mono.Unix.UnixEndPoint remoteEndPoint) in [0x0000d] (at /usr/src/packages/BUILD/mono-1.1.13.2/mcs/class/Mono.Posix/Mono.Unix/UnixClient.cs:177) Mono.Unix.UnixClient:Connect (System.String path) in [0x00019] (at /usr/src/packages/BUILD/mono-1.1.13.2/mcs/class/Mono.Posix/Mono.Unix/UnixClient.cs:59) Mono.Unix.UnixClient:.ctor (System.String path) in (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) Mono.Unix.UnixClient:.ctor (string) in <0x0002b> Beagle.Client:SendRequest (Beagle.RequestMessage request) in <0x00033> Beagle.Client:SendAsync (Beagle.RequestMessage request) Since I've never knowingly done anything with the Mono packages or configuration, whatever is wrong was an unintended consequence of some other action or a packaging / dependency problem somewhere.

-- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny)

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Hi, Joe, [ Sorry, I thought you wanted this privately. Now I see it went to the list, too, so I'm resending there. ] On Monday 02 July 2007 11:24, you wrote:

Hi,

On 7/2/07, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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** (beagle-query:32088): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /usr/lib/beagle/Util.dll could not be loaded: Assembly: gconf-sharp (assemblyref_index=7) Version: 2.8.0.0 Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr/lib/beagle).

Yeah, it looks like a package update is to blame for this. What version of gconf-sharp2 do you have installed on your system? (If you don't have gconf-sharp2, what's the gtk-sharp2 package version?) What version of Beagle?

% rpm -qa |egrep -i beagle libbeagle-0.1.4-10 beagle-0.1.4-10 kio_beagle-0.2-2 libbeagle-devel-0.1.4-10

The version of Beagle you have installed was compiled against gconf-sharp 2.8 and is expecting it.

% rpm -q gconf-sharp2 gtk-sharp2 package gconf-sharp2 is not installed gtk-sharp2-2.8.0-5

Joe

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Hi, On 7/2/07, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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The version of Beagle you have installed was compiled against gconf-sharp 2.8 and is expecting it.

Neither gconf-sharp nor gconf-sharp2 is among those listed in YaST Software Management. What repository might contain it? And how was I able to install without package dependency problems? I suppose I could have overruled one, but I don't remember doing that.

gconf-sharp2 (and others) were split out from gtk-sharp2 starting in 10.1, so that would explain why you don't have it. Starting with 10.2 the various gtk-sharp2 packages were split out individually, and one of them was gconf-sharp2. I don't recall what version of gtk-sharp2 was shipped in 10.0, but I am pretty sure it is older than 2.8. So my suspicion is that you upgraded the gtk-sharp2 package but lost all of the additional libraries that were contained in it (glib-sharp2, gconf-sharp2, gnome-sharp2, art-sharp2, glade-sharp2, gtkhtml-sharp2, etc.) Hence the "library not found" error. You might want to try downgrading to the version that shipped with 10.0, or download the full set of packages from here: http://www.go-mono.com/download-stable/suse-100-i586/ Joe

I checked the ignored dependencies list, and there was nothing that appeared relevant. Here's an excerpt from Software Management's conflict report (I had to reset the ignored conflicts to generate it):

java-1_5_0-sun 1.5.0_03-2 conflict java-1_5_0-sun-alsa 1.5.0_03-2 conflict java-1_5_0-sun-demo 1.5.0_03-2 conflict java-1_5_0-sun-devel 1.5.0_03-2 conflict java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc 1.5.0_03-2 conflict java-1_5_0-sun-plugin 1.5.0_03-2 conflict libtotem-plparser.so.0 not available python-gnome-extras 2.11.3-3 conflict /usr/bin/bash not available viewglob 2.0.4-1.pm.1 conflict

(And yes, I have BASH installed. The viewglob package wants /usr/bin/bash instead of /bin/bash. Apparently I added a symlink from /usr/bin/bash to /bin/bash, since no package owns that symlink.)

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Joe

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Joe, On Monday 02 July 2007 11:20, Joe Shaw wrote:

Hi,

On 7/2/07, Sunny wrote:

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On 7/2/07, Randall R Schulz wrote: Sorry for the hijack, but looks like related - does anybody has a list of the differences between GoogleDesktop and beagle? Including performance monitoring, etc.

I'm working on a blog post about it, but the short of it:

* GDL isn't open source; Beagle is. * GDL indexes Gmail, whereas Beagle doesn't. * Beagle indexes a *lot* more stuff than GDL. * GDL's indexing process is a lot slower than Beagle's * GDL's searching seems to be a lot faster, at least for initial results -- GDL slows down as you page through results. * Both Beagle and GDL present results sorted by date, not relevance.

Google Desktop has both by-date and by-relevance display options.

* In my experience on my very large (107 GB) home directory, GDL absolutely hammers my system. It never seems to peg the CPU, but the hard drive is always running.

Odd. What I've noticed over the few hours since it's been running is that it has been entirely unobtrusive. It's now been running 4 hours and has indexed 37.4% of the files in the directories I've configured. That's currently ~17,800 emails and ~6,000 files. I've been working away in IDEA (Java IDE) and doing ANTLR and Ant builds along the way. I have a huge store of PDF and PostScript research papers, and they're the primary reason I care about local content-based indexing.

My kjournald process is in disk wait (D) a lot of the time and load average jumps from under 1 to over 4. The desktop is a lot less responsive. I've found Beagle to be a lot less intrusive, the occasional bug aside. * GDL does seem to use less memory during its normal run, but grows over time -- possibly leaks.

The double-control to bring up a search UI is similar to GNOME's deskbar applet w/ Beagle support, which we don't ship enabled by default.

Ah. I was wondering what made that happen. I activated it inadvertently earlier and didn't know how nor could I replicate it.

Its richer web interface is a little bit more like the main Beagle interface (F12 on SUSE) but isn't sorted at all by category unless you refine your search.

Joe

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On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 15:17 -0400, Joe Shaw wrote:

Hi,

On 7/2/07, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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* Both Beagle and GDL present results sorted by date, not relevance.

Google Desktop has both by-date and by-relevance display options.

Ah, I missed that. Indeed it does, but so does Beagle.

In either case, relevancy in desktop search is tough to do and probably doesn't work all that well in practice. (Part of what makes web search easy, and what Google picked up on from the start, are that the relationships between web pages are part of what make them important. Sadly, those links simply don't exist in desktop data today.)

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Odd. What I've noticed over the few hours since it's been running is that it has been entirely unobtrusive.

It's not that surprising. From personal experience and reading various people's posts on this list about Beagle, it seems to work very well for some and not so well for others. I think it depends a lot on the volume and type of data.

Seems so - I had to uninstall Beagle from all my and my friends machines because it was just killing the CPU - making the interface sluggish at best. Must add - this is the Beagle version on the 10.2 DVD - I havent tried installing and updating to latest version. Google Desktop has been running for 2 days now - I havent noticed. But the indexing is a bit weird - jumping around 20% - 12% - 50% etc E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org