Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

В Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:15:41 +0100 Per Jessen пишет:

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See http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885655

specifically, I would like to understand the reasoning for adding 'yzpper' as a symlink to 'zypper'.

"Because we have zast" :)

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The opposite is being done in bug#902398, where 'zast' was needlessly removed as a symlink to 'yast'.

Well, zast was remove after yzpper was added ... so probably now we should expect yzpper to disappear as well :)

Hahaha, thanks Andrei, that is actually really funny! -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/04/2014 03:23 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
>   "Caverns measureless to man" comes to mind.
  - as : in Xanadu did Kubla Khan

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On 11/05/2014 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
> On 11/04/2014 03:23 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
>> >>   "Caverns measureless to man" comes to mind.
> >   - as : in Xanadu did Kubla Khan
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  poem by Coleridge :

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubla_Khan

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  regards


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On 11/05/2014 01:54 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

All the mis-spelling of zypper make me think of a mis-spelling of "Yast" In fact a V is very like a Y, isn't it?

Well, the y <-> z typo can come from typing on a keyboard with an unknown keyboard layouts (QWERTY vs. QWERTZ), while a V is just looking similar. Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Anton Aylward wrote:

On 11/05/2014 07:58 AM, Bernhard Voelker wrote:

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On 11/05/2014 01:54 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

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All the mis-spelling of zypper make me think of a mis-spelling of "Yast" In fact a V is very like a Y, isn't it?

Well, the y <-> z typo can come from typing on a keyboard with an unknown keyboard layouts (QWERTY vs. QWERTZ), while a V is just looking similar.

Have a nice day, Berny

The original post was about adding 'yzpper' as a symlink to 'zypper'. That's a common type of type, letter inversion, like typing "hte" for "the".

Also if you've learnt to type using a QWERTZ layout and suddenly find yourself using a QWERTY instead.

Andrei added the "zast" vs "yast" item., so I see your point, but on the phone the X Y and Z are all on the 9 key. I'm glad late model phones have more screen real estate and properly laid out keyboards, even if a bit cramped. I hated sending SMS from the old phones!

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On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 07:56:52AM -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
> On 11/05/2014 03:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
> > ellanios82 wrote:
> > 
> >> On 11/04/2014 03:23 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
> >>>   "Caverns measureless to man" comes to mind.
> >>   - as : in Xanadu did Kubla Khan
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> > 
> > My ignorance is showing, I have no idea what you two are on about. 
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> And I don't think hypertext has anything to do with a mis-spelling of
> zypper or yast, and it was Ted nelson, not Kubla Kahn.

The y / z switch is a feature to support people that switch between
german and english keyboards, which famously switch the location of z and y
(but no other letters ... only special characters are switched besides).

Thats why we had zast and now yzpper.

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Anton Aylward wrote:

On 11/05/2014 07:59 AM, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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And I don't think hypertext has anything to do with a mis-spelling of zypper or yast, and it was Ted nelson, not Kubla Kahn.

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The y / z switch is a feature to support people that switch between german and english keyboards, which famously switch the location of z and y (but no other letters ... only special characters are switched besides).

Perhaps using a German keyboard layout affects one's sense of humour and ability to recognise puns and word play in English.

I can't say I got the pun either. What was it? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

arvidjaar@gmail.com wrote:

Отправлено с iPhone

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Thats why we had zast and now yzpper.

I guess the actual question was - why remove zast if adding yzpper at the same time.

Exactly, that is what I trying to figure out. Well, I just don't think there was much if any reason for removing the 'zast' symlink. It's sad really, more time has been wasted on discussing this issue than it would have taken someone to re-add that link .... -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org