Re: [opensuse] Network Manager and WPA/PSK with TKIP
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:34:19 James Knott wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:08:34 James Knott wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
Please share your secrets:-) (that is, the secret to making it work, not the PSK shared secrets;-) ).
No secret. I selected the network, followed through the panels and plugged in the key and it just worked.
Where? Where do you select WPA-PSK? Where do you enter the shared key? Those options do not appear in my installed version of knetworkmanager. Which gui are you using for it? KDE3/4/Gnome?
1) Create a new connection and click on the SSID, then Next. 2) Verify "Use Wireless Security" and "WPA Personal" are selected. Enter key and click on "Connect and Save". 3) Done
I have done the above on two computers and at least 5 access points. It always works for me.
I just realised that you are definitely not using KDE4's knetworkmanager (at least, not the same version as I'm using). No "connect and save" button - just OK and Cancel. Wireless Security is a tab, not a checkbox and the option is WPA/WPA2 Personal but it asks for a password, not a pre-shared key. Like I said, the knetworkmanager is broken (or perhaps functionally challenged is a more apt description). What gui interface to Network Manager are you using? -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rodney Baker wrote:
What gui interface to Network Manager are you using?
Whatever one comes with KDE 3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:54:38 James Knott wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
What gui interface to Network Manager are you using?
Whatever one comes with KDE 3.
Yep, that's what I thought. I never used the KDE 3 version but I might have to install it because the KDE 4 one is seriously challenged in this area. It's handling of switching between multiple wired networks is actually pretty good (very good in fact - easier than Windows) but it's missing one critical (for me) wireless feature. The command line interface cnetworkmanager works for the wireless network but not for the wired interface. The underlying tool seems to work well now, its just the interface options for KDE4 that are lacking. Thanks for your input, James. Very helpful. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 01:44 +0930, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:54:38 James Knott wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
What gui interface to Network Manager are you using?
Whatever one comes with KDE 3.
Yep, that's what I thought. I never used the KDE 3 version but I might have to install it because the KDE 4 one is seriously challenged in this area. It's handling of switching between multiple wired networks is actually pretty good (very good in fact - easier than Windows) but it's missing one critical (for me) wireless feature.
The command line interface cnetworkmanager works for the wireless network but not for the wired interface. The underlying tool seems to work well now, its just the interface options for KDE4 that are lacking.
Thanks for your input, James. Very helpful.
-- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ===================================================
Hi, there has been a problem with network manager since the 11.2 opensuse version with kde4. I am still using 11.1 on this laptop because it uses the kde3 networkmanager. The gurus on the mailing list devised the following to overcome the problem: zypper remove networkmanager-kde4 zypper install networkmanager-gnome gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor nm-appet & The post that I have taken this from says that there is still a problem getting gnetworkmanager to start on each boot automatically. Maybe someone has worked that out and can comment on how to get it going in another post. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mark Misulich wrote:
there has been a problem with network manager since the 11.2 opensuse version with kde4. I am still using 11.1 on this laptop because it uses the kde3 networkmanager. Is it possible to use the KDE3 version with 11.2 or later? I'm currently using 11.0 on all my computers and intend to do so for as long as it's supported. However, someday I'll be forced onto KDE4 and will be needing KNetworkmanager for my notebook computer. I do not use it on any other computer.
Why does KNetworkmanager have so many issues? One that I've noticed is when you scan for networks, it doesn't show all that are available. I recall some discussion with a developer where he claimed it was a "feature" in that you'd otherwise have a long list to sort through. Instead, I often have to use WiFi Radar to find a network I want to use as KNetworkmanager didn't display it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 07/04/2010 04:07 PM, James Knott wrote:
Mark Misulich wrote:
there has been a problem with network manager since the 11.2 opensuse version with kde4. I am still using 11.1 on this laptop because it uses the kde3 networkmanager. Is it possible to use the KDE3 version with 11.2 or later? I'm currently using 11.0 on all my computers and intend to do so for as long as it's supported. However, someday I'll be forced onto KDE4 and will be needing KNetworkmanager for my notebook computer. I do not use it on any other computer.
Why does KNetworkmanager have so many issues? One that I've noticed is when you scan for networks, it doesn't show all that are available. I recall some discussion with a developer where he claimed it was a "feature" in that you'd otherwise have a long list to sort through. Instead, I often have to use WiFi Radar to find a network I want to use as KNetworkmanager didn't display it.
Hmm. I had some problems early on with the kde4 network manager, but I haven't recently. ...Well, actually, I hiccupped on the password vs private key thing, but finally, I just put in a passphrase and everything went smoothly. Since Will asked me to send in a log of both the kde and gnome managers (gnome has always worked for me), and it got fixed in a couple of days, I've connected without trouble to 3 networks that I can remember. As I recall, the deficiency of access point list was fixed long ago, too (at least for me). At first, I got half a dozen AP's, none of which was my own, even though it was MUCH stronger than any of my neighbors'. Someone really screwed up that "feature" royally. Now mine is at the top of a long list, and this weekend I connected to my son's using WPA2-PSK. Really, just try putting in a passphrase. It gets converted to a code, anyhow, and, whether it detects the passphrase vs private key, or just uses the phrase, I don't know, or really care, since they're both used for strong encryption before anything goes onto the air. Obviously, you use a complicated phrase that means something specific to you alone. KDE 4.3.5 "release 0" Whatever KNetworkManager is current -- I can't find a way to get its version. John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 15:37 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 01:44 +0930, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:54:38 James Knott wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
What gui interface to Network Manager are you using?
Whatever one comes with KDE 3.
Yep, that's what I thought. I never used the KDE 3 version but I might have to install it because the KDE 4 one is seriously challenged in this area. It's handling of switching between multiple wired networks is actually pretty good (very good in fact - easier than Windows) but it's missing one critical (for me) wireless feature.
The command line interface cnetworkmanager works for the wireless network but not for the wired interface. The underlying tool seems to work well now, its just the interface options for KDE4 that are lacking.
Thanks for your input, James. Very helpful.
I can verify it works on 11.2 (update repo applied) and 11.3 (current release candidate) with the Network Manager. This is in my /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log: Trying to associate with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 (SSID='essential' freq=2412 MHz) Associated with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 WPA: Key negotiation completed with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP] CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 completed (auth) [id=0 id_str=] I use the KDE Network manager, The password is managed there. In Yast you must say you want to use this to configure the network. Then there is an icon in the KDE panel. In this method, the connection only works when someone with a network password is logged in. And it is here that you can change which wireless to use. As usual, right click on the icon. If using the same wireless access point all the time, in yast choose the traditional method, and the items (e.g., password) are then entered in yast. Then it is available even when no one is logged in. It is all where you configure network cards in yast. Your choice depends on your needs.
rodney.baker@iinet.net.au
there has been a problem with network manager since the 11.2 opensuse version with kde4. I am still using 11.1 on this laptop because it uses the kde3 networkmanager.
Old status. It has been working for some time. I use numerous wireless connections (home and hotels) and it 'just works'. Indeed, when 11.2 first came out, the story was a very different one... -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:45:46 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 15:37 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 01:44 +0930, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:54:38 James Knott wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
What gui interface to Network Manager are you using?
Whatever one comes with KDE 3.
Yep, that's what I thought. I never used the KDE 3 version but I might have to install it because the KDE 4 one is seriously challenged in this area. It's handling of switching between multiple wired networks is actually pretty good (very good in fact - easier than Windows) but it's missing one critical (for me) wireless feature.
The command line interface cnetworkmanager works for the wireless network but not for the wired interface. The underlying tool seems to work well now, its just the interface options for KDE4 that are lacking.
Thanks for your input, James. Very helpful.
I can verify it works on 11.2 (update repo applied) and 11.3 (current release candidate) with the Network Manager. This is in my /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log:
Trying to associate with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 (SSID='essential' freq=2412 MHz) Associated with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 WPA: Key negotiation completed with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP] CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 completed (auth) [id=0 id_str=]
I use the KDE Network manager, The password is managed there. In Yast you must say you want to use this to configure the network. Then there is an icon in the KDE panel. In this method, the connection only works when someone with a network password is logged in. And it is here that you can change which wireless to use. As usual, right click on the icon.
If using the same wireless access point all the time, in yast choose the traditional method, and the items (e.g., password) are then entered in yast. Then it is available even when no one is logged in. It is all where you configure network cards in yast.
Your choice depends on your needs.
rodney.baker@iinet.net.au
there has been a problem with network manager since the 11.2 opensuse version with kde4. I am still using 11.1 on this laptop because it uses the kde3 networkmanager.
Old status. It has been working for some time. I use numerous wireless connections (home and hotels) and it 'just works'.
Indeed, when 11.2 first came out, the story was a very different one...
Well, yesterday no matter what I tried it would not work. Today the wind must have been blowing a different direction because when I tried it tonight it connected first time. (I now have much less hair than I did yesterday!) Why? I have absolutely no idea. I did not change anything. I didn't install or update anything, or delete anything. I have rebooted the machine between then and now (including booting into Windows once). Last night it wouldn't work for love nor money, but tonight it does. I wonder for how long? At least now if the configuration doesn't change it should (theoretically) keep working. I'll try switching between wireless and wired a few times and see what happens... -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 22:21 +0930, Rodney Baker wrote:
Indeed, when 11.2 first came out, the story was a very different one...
Well, yesterday no matter what I tried it would not work. Today the wind must have been blowing a different direction because when I tried it tonight it connected first time. (I now have much less hair than I did yesterday!)
Why? I have absolutely no idea. I did not change anything. I didn't install or update anything, or delete anything. I have rebooted the machine between then and now (including booting into Windows once). Last night it wouldn't work for love nor money, but tonight it does. I wonder for how long? At least now if the configuration doesn't change it should (theoretically) keep working. I'll try switching between wireless and wired a few times and see what happens...
This has worked fine for me. At work it is wired. At home it is wireless. In fact, I just let it be. Whichever it finds it sets up. But I have and do choose one or the other as well. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
This has worked fine for me. At work it is wired. At home it is wireless. In fact, I just let it be. Whichever it finds it sets up.
Exactly. I have an acer laptop which is only wireless. It just picks up what is available. I don't do anything. Maybe the OP is trying to connect to a WPA which needs a password. In which case the Hotel reception desk or equivalent will give it to you. You don't need 64 or 63 bit hex strings. Who knows what that means anyway? Just a password. e. g. The last time I needed it the password was the name of the hotel plus my room number. It is this sort of thread that macbores delight upon and put people off using Linux. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Rodney Baker
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:45:46 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 15:37 -0400, Mark Misulich wrote:
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 01:44 +0930, Rodney Baker wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:54:38 James Knott wrote:
Rodney Baker wrote:
What gui interface to Network Manager are you using?
Whatever one comes with KDE 3.
Yep, that's what I thought. I never used the KDE 3 version but I might have to install it because the KDE 4 one is seriously challenged in this area. It's handling of switching between multiple wired networks is actually pretty good (very good in fact - easier than Windows) but it's missing one critical (for me) wireless feature.
The command line interface cnetworkmanager works for the wireless network but not for the wired interface. The underlying tool seems to work well now, its just the interface options for KDE4 that are lacking.
Thanks for your input, James. Very helpful.
I can verify it works on 11.2 (update repo applied) and 11.3 (current release candidate) with the Network Manager. This is in my /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log:
Trying to associate with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 (SSID='essential' freq=2412 MHz) Associated with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 WPA: Key negotiation completed with 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP] CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 00:18:4d:09:ef:36 completed (auth) [id=0 id_str=]
I use the KDE Network manager, The password is managed there. In Yast you must say you want to use this to configure the network. Then there is an icon in the KDE panel. In this method, the connection only works when someone with a network password is logged in. And it is here that you can change which wireless to use. As usual, right click on the icon.
If using the same wireless access point all the time, in yast choose the traditional method, and the items (e.g., password) are then entered in yast. Then it is available even when no one is logged in. It is all where you configure network cards in yast.
Your choice depends on your needs.
rodney.baker@iinet.net.au
there has been a problem with network manager since the 11.2 opensuse version with kde4. I am still using 11.1 on this laptop because it uses the kde3 networkmanager.
Old status. It has been working for some time. I use numerous wireless connections (home and hotels) and it 'just works'.
Indeed, when 11.2 first came out, the story was a very different one...
Well, yesterday no matter what I tried it would not work. Today the wind must have been blowing a different direction because when I tried it tonight it connected first time. (I now have much less hair than I did yesterday!)
Why? I have absolutely no idea. I did not change anything. I didn't install or update anything, or delete anything. I have rebooted the machine between then and now (including booting into Windows once). Last night it wouldn't work for love nor money, but tonight it does. I wonder for how long? At least now if the configuration doesn't change it should (theoretically) keep working. I'll try switching between wireless and wired a few times and see what happens...
For me, WPA2 / PSK works fine immediately after reboot. But if my laptop hibernates, then my wireless connection never comes back. I don't know if that is a wireless driver bug, or knetworkmanager bug. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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