[opensuse] articles of this newsgroup are not grouped in threads

Juan R. de Silva

2 Mar 2013 2 Mar '13

00:35

Hi folks, I'm using Pan to follow a number of newsgroups. In all other newsgroups but "gmane.linux.suse.general" all articles are grouped into corresponding threads. When I select "gmane.linux.suse.general" every single article of each thread is listed separately. Thus usually I have a long list of "Re:" items. What's the trouble with this newsgroup? Why it is so special to Pan? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Carlos E. R.

2 Mar 2 Mar

01:38

On 03/02/2013 01:35 AM, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

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What's the trouble with this newsgroup? Why it is so special to Pan?

Try another nntp reader, like thunderbird. Maybe they don't create the appropriate "References:" header. -- Cheers/Saludos Carlos E. R. (12.3 Dartmouth test at Minas-Anor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carson Chittom

14:25

New subject: [opensuse] Re: articles of this newsgroup are not grouped in threads

"Juan R. de Silva" writes:

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I'm using Pan to follow a number of newsgroups. In all other newsgroups but "gmane.linux.suse.general" all articles are grouped into corresponding threads. When I select "gmane.linux.suse.general" every single article of each thread is listed separately. Thus usually I have a long list of "Re:" items.

What's the trouble with this newsgroup? Why it is so special to Pan?

Odd. I'm reading the same way you are, only with Gnus. Threading works precisely like it does in every other newsgroup. Have you tried unsubscribing from gmane.linux.suse.general and then resubscribing? Perhaps it's some strange per-newsgroup setting internal to Pan that's causing the issue? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Scott Linnenbringer

15:27

New subject: [opensuse] Re: articles of this newsgroup are not grouped in threads

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Carson Chittom wrote:

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"Juan R. de Silva" writes:

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I'm using Pan to follow a number of newsgroups. In all other newsgroups but "gmane.linux.suse.general" all articles are grouped into corresponding threads. When I select "gmane.linux.suse.general" every single article of each thread is listed separately. Thus usually I have a long list of "Re:" items.

What's the trouble with this newsgroup? Why it is so special to Pan?

Odd. I'm reading the same way you are, only with Gnus. Threading works precisely like it does in every other newsgroup.

Have you tried unsubscribing from gmane.linux.suse.general and then resubscribing? Perhaps it's some strange per-newsgroup setting internal to Pan that's causing the issue?

Actually I've noticed that too when using Thunderbird to read the opensuse list (inconsistent threading, and a lot of times it's just one level of threading implying that the newsreader is just going by Re: in the subject instead of the References: header) When I use gmail to read the list (normally what I do) threading is fine (gmail doesn't have nested threading though), but when I reply the default To: is to the poster, not the list. I know that's because the opensuse daemon doesn't add the Reply-To: header (just has List-Post:) I can't figure out the threading issue but I haven't looked at it much...... there's Reference: headers but maybe it's in the wrong spot per some RFC and that's what is throwing Pan/Thunderbird off, I dunno Cheers, Scott -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Anton Aylward

16:04

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Scott Linnenbringer said the following on 03/02/2013 10:27 AM:

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Actually I've noticed that too when using Thunderbird to read the opensuse list (inconsistent threading, and a lot of times it's just one level of threading implying that the newsreader is just going by Re: in the subject instead of the References: header)

I'm happy with Thunderbird's threading. It does a good job. That being said, there are many mail tools that break threading. A friend in Australia uses Lotus Notes and that always looses the "In-Reply-To" header and we're off on a new thread. I also get 'new threads' when I save or delete messages and so loose the linkages in my INBOX. But I have no problems with deeply nested threads, least of all on this list! I use "View -> Sort By -> Threaded" rather than "View -> Threads". -- A little inaccuracy can save tons of explanation. -- Saki -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Juan R. de Silva

3 Mar 3 Mar

05:35

New subject: [opensuse] Re: articles of this newsgroup are not grouped in threads

On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:35:40 +0000, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

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Hi folks,

I'm using Pan to follow a number of newsgroups. In all other newsgroups but "gmane.linux.suse.general" all articles are grouped into corresponding threads. When I select "gmane.linux.suse.general" every single article of each thread is listed separately. Thus usually I have a long list of "Re:" items.

What's the trouble with this newsgroup? Why it is so special to Pan?

Thanks.

The most mysterious thing is that the only one thread that I'm viewing right now normally is this one, created by me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Rajko

15:57

On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 00:35:40 +0000 (UTC) "Juan R. de Silva" wrote:

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Hi folks,

I'm using Pan to follow a number of newsgroups. In all other newsgroups but "gmane.linux.suse.general" all articles are grouped into corresponding threads. When I select "gmane.linux.suse.general" every single article of each thread is listed separately. Thus usually I have a long list of "Re:" items.

What's the trouble with this newsgroup? Why it is so special to Pan?

I looked at the headers and what is missing in your messages is In-reply-to: header item. Besides that I found a bug in Claws Mail that is sorting messages in a wrong column, although header is correct. This is text with excerpts from headers: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8HNJIS5xTiDUzBjLUo3UGxnUHM/edit Due to Message-ID strings Google sorted it as application, so you have to download file to see the text. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Anton Aylward
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Juan R. de Silva
Rajko
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