Philip Dowie schreef:

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3 - Lots of other people have to be leaving their torrent clients running to serve up content even when they are not trying to download a file themselves. Some people do this. I can't really say if it's many or not. I only rarely use the torrenrt system, but when I do, I do usually leave the client running for a while afterwards, a few hours or a day maybe, roughly 2 to 4 times however long it took me to get my file, to sort of pay pack the system. I don't know how many other people think and act that way.

Clearly, for those poor individuals who have an internet connection with a [small] quota of traffic, they aren't going to leave their client open for any longer than necessary, in order to preserve precious quota. Some will even go out of their way to limit the rate at which they upload in order to further preserve the precious quota.

Ah yes, we're talking about Belgium, with the two oligopolists Belgacom and Telenet. Together they have >90% of the market. I'm glad that I switched to one of the smaller providers, who recently changed my traffic quota from 60 GiB/month to unlimited (FUP). Until june last year I had to survive with 10 GiB/month...

(Not to mention to avoide exposure to the MPAA, RIAA, and their local equivalents, in the case of pirated stuff)

What is that, pirated stuff? Seriously, either you are a Linux user and you don't download pirated stuff, or you are a Windoze luser. ;-) -- Amedee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 07 February 2009 07:34:54 Jerry Houston wrote:

Does anyone know if there's a way to tell KTorrent to synch those up without downloading the files again?

In the KTorrent GUI: File -> Import existing download I don't see a way to do via dcop. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/

On Saturday 07 February 2009 09:31:40 Jerry Houston wrote:

On Saturday 07 February 2009 07:11:17 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

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On Saturday 07 February 2009 07:34:54 Jerry Houston wrote:

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Does anyone know if there's a way to tell KTorrent to synch those up without downloading the files again?

In the KTorrent GUI: File -> Import existing download

In KTorrent 3.1.5,

Oh, sorry, I still haven't moved to the KTorrent 3.x line because I need RSS support in KTorrent.

the only import items in the file menu are "Import Torrent," and "Import KDE3 Torrents". The first imports one torrent at a time, the second tells me "No KDE3 torrents found." (They were nearly all processed with KTorrent from KDE3.

You'll need to use the first option then.

But nothing about importing an existing download.

Import torrent should do that, IIRC.

I have all the torrents in the GUI,

That's a problem. You cannot add already downloaded data to a torrent KTorrent already knows about. You'll need to remove any torrents prior to attempting to import them with data. Also, be aware that I have had KTorrent decide to overwrite completely valid (but "temporary") torrent data with empty files, so your data for these torrents may well be already missing.

Maybe I just have the "Folder to save torrent information" value wrong? What files constitute "torrent information"? Maybe I can find those somewhere, and reset it properly?

Possibly, you may need to go up or down a directory level, depending on how you've decided to store the files and how the torrent was mastered. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/

On Saturday 07 February 2009 07:34:54 am Jerry Houston wrote:

I'd like to be able to seed those files again when someone needs one, but I don't want to have to download dozens of gigabytes of files that are already on the server.

Try another client, like Azureus. It has a lot more options then KTorrent. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 11:24:36PM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Quoting Richard :

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Ok. I admit it. I am old and feeble of brain. Can someone please tell me, in simple terms, how BitTorrent is "better" for downloading. I have been trying to download a large file, 11+Gb, using kbittorrent. When it started it showed 8 hrs remaining and a speed of maybe 65Kb down, as I recall. This was over a day ago. Ok, I let it run. 4 hours later it shows 7 hrs to go. Umm, this is progress? Ok, I go to work, return...6 hrs to go. Cheez! Let it run overnight, now shows 20+ hrs to go. I am no math whiz, but I think I am a little smarter than a 5th grader, and I would be willing to bet that this is longer. This does not like progress and I am wondering what either I am doing wrong, or what might be wrong with the system, or it this just how it works and there is some hidden benefit that I am not seeing, like for every hour of download starving children somewhere are fed and clothed.

BitTorrent's (BT) value is increased if a lot of people are willing to provide upload capability. For most downloads this is not true, unfortunately. However, for some popular downloads, BT smokes. On a cable modem that I thought topped out at 3Mps I was getting over 5Mbps. There were over 30 computers providing the download. Few sites are capable of pushing that much bandwidth to a single user.

All mirrors in the U.S. that I tested (from within the U.S.) deliver 5MBit or more. The ones that are slower I generally tend to disable, or redirect only requests on smaller files to them. So I don't actually agree with what you say, that few sites are capable of pushing that much to a single user. I rather try to ensure that this exactly is the case.

As you have found, too few people using BT are willing to give back. So plain old FTP is faster.

Jeffrey

It is not only about willingness, I think. The simple fact is that the images are extremely popular for a short time (and BT downloads actually make sense then, and it develops some tracktion for some time). (In fact, we see more than 3 requests on DVD images per second (!) in the early days.) But few days after release this effect already diminuishes, and for practical reasons, only few people leave a) their machine running, b) torrend seeder running, c) Internet connected, et cetera, for a prolonged time. People simply might need there machine for something else, for instance for installing the download. I recommend using metalinks - they combine downloading from mirrors and from BitTorrent peers. The best of both worlds. Peter -- "WARNING: This bug is visible to non-employees. Please be respectful!" SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:18 PM, James Knott wrote:

Richard wrote:

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Ok. I admit it. I am old and feeble of brain. Can someone please tell me, in simple terms, how BitTorrent is "better" for downloading. I have been trying to download a large file, 11+Gb, using kbittorrent. When it started it showed 8 hrs remaining and a speed of maybe 65Kb down, as I recall. This was over a day ago. Ok, I let it run. 4 hours later it shows 7 hrs to go. Umm, this is progress? Ok, I go to work, return...6 hrs to go. Cheez! Let it run overnight, now shows 20+ hrs to go. I am no math whiz, but I think I am a little smarter than a 5th grader, and I would be willing to bet that this is longer. This does not like progress and I am wondering what either I am doing wrong, or what might be wrong with the system, or it this just how it works and there is some hidden benefit that I am not seeing, like for every hour of download starving children somewhere are fed and clothed.

Thanks for steering me to the light.

Richar

The idea is to share the load among multiple sources, but some ISPs deliberately slow the transfer.

And even if they didn't, bittorrent with a very small number of seeders is usually slower than a http download. But I have to ask the OP if he has inbound ports properly passed thru his firewall? The most common complaint is due to no inward ports open or too much or too little upload bandwidth allocated. Being too generous can swamp your upload bandwidth slowing download acks as well. Being too stingy gets you throttled. -- ----------JSA--------- Someone stole my tag line, so now I have this rental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org