[opensuse] ARG: Running Tumbleweed setup DVD - how setup disk as gpt (or run parted?)
Running openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20170414-Media.iso... First, I chose to "install", not upgrade. I got to an 'expert' paritioner, but it seems to want to limit partition sizes to 2TB or less and seems to be defaulting to using /dev/sd{a-c}+extended. That doesn't sound like gpt, but a standard PC-compat partition setup. I tried to start the text startup, but still ended up in GUI, which is driving me insane due to the physical mouse cursor not lining up with the virtual one. So... 1) how do I boot in text mode so I won't have to deal w/a broken mouse? (if I solve the above, I might be able to run parted from installer CD, but not sure....if not...) 2) how do I setup the partition table to use gpt? or, how do I run parted? Maybe I should boot the rescue disk and try initializing the disk w/gpt first? ....booting rescue.. why does sysd complain about missing groups: tty, kmem, video, audio, disk, cdrom then fail to generate issue-generator fail issue-generator network add enp0s17 -- no such file or directory fail issue-generator network dd enp0s8 -- no such file or directory --- seems sysd doesn't know how to start a rescue system -- though since a rescue system is supposed to start from a shell, how do I boot to a shell? adding init=/bin/sh (or init=/bin/bash) seems to be ignored. It starts a gui desktop. Why can't I get to a terminal from here? I try pressing ALT-F1 to get to the 1st console, but its ignored, and alt-f2 gets brings up an application finder. Also, no mouse cursor at all in this GUI. How do I run the GUI w/no mouse -- tab does some switching, but nothing to bring up a rescue menu. Why no ability to boot to a shell? Help? -linda -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
18.04.2017 19:19, L A Walsh пишет:
Running openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20170414-Media.iso...
First, I chose to "install", not upgrade. I got to an 'expert' paritioner, but it seems to want to limit partition sizes to 2TB or less and seems to be defaulting to using /dev/sd{a-c}+extended. That doesn't sound like gpt, but a standard
Installer defaults to whatever disk label is in use currently.
PC-compat partition setup. I tried to start the text startup, but still ended up in GUI, which is driving me insane due to the physical mouse cursor not lining up with the virtual one. So... 1) how do I boot in text mode so I won't have to deal w/a broken mouse?
Did you try to press F3?
(if I solve the above, I might be able to run parted from installer CD, but not sure....if not...)
2) how do I setup the partition table to use gpt? or, how do
Select disk in expert partitioner, on the lower right you have some advanced actions drop down list (called Expert). It allows you to rewrite disk label.
I run parted? Maybe I should boot the rescue disk and try initializing the disk w/gpt first?
Yes, you can.
....booting rescue.. why does sysd complain about missing groups: tty, kmem, video, audio, disk, cdrom
then fail to generate issue-generator fail issue-generator network add enp0s17 -- no such file or directory fail issue-generator network dd enp0s8 -- no such file or directory
--- seems sysd doesn't know how to start a rescue system -- though since a rescue system is supposed to start from a shell, how do I boot to a shell?
I have no idea what you are doing or what your are using. When I select rescue system from installation medium it boots into text mode shell.
adding init=/bin/sh (or init=/bin/bash) seems to be ignored.
I doubt installation medum even has /bin/sh until installer is loaded and mounted all necessary parts.
It starts a gui desktop. Why can't I get to a terminal from here? I try pressing ALT-F1 to get to the 1st console, but its ignored, and alt-f2 gets brings up an application finder.
This has been the case in X11 GUI since ever.
Also, no mouse cursor at all in this GUI. How do I run the GUI w/no mouse -- tab does some switching, but nothing to bring up a rescue menu.
What rescue menu?
Why no ability to boot to a shell?
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Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
18.04.2017 19:19, L A Walsh пишет:
Installer defaults to whatever disk label is in use currently.
--- That's why I was trying the repair disk -- (since I couldn't figure out how to change the label in the installer-DVD).
Did you try to press F3? yes -- didn't understand the menu until you told me to retry it...saw: ===================== Installer Size ⏵ Text Console Size ⏵ Video BIOS Size ⏵
Text mode Color Mode ⏵ Screen Reader ⏵ ===================== I thought 'text mode' was a sub-header (tried txt console size, but it gave size in pixels, not characters), looked at video bios size -- it did the same thing (size in pixels) -- I would have thought a BIOS would be sized in MB. Tried color mode as well -- didn't think to try selecting text mode ... maybe if the above had ◯ Text mode (and) ● Text mode ... i.e. showing the user there is a toggle-option there? After not finding how to toggle text mode, I hit ESC, and that put me in text mode. I tried booting from there -- and that's where it went back to the GUI.
Select disk in expert partitioner, on the lower right you have some advanced actions drop down list (called Expert). It allows you to rewrite disk label.
---- I'm not seeing that -- see Hard Disk (on left under system view) and see sda. Only option I see is '[Configure...v]' -- if I TAB over to the right size over the hard disk (/dev/sda), I still only see configure. Pressing configure (in both cases) gives me: Provide Crypt Passwords... Configure iSCSI... Configure FCoE... Configure Multipath... But no option to change partition type.... Ah!....Found it! Need to select on /dev/sda1 not just hilite it... (used to GUI's where hiliting an option shows sub-options for that option) -- more like a web-interface and using '1-click' for starting things (and hovering to hilight them). Thanks!
I run parted? Maybe I should boot the rescue disk and try initializing the disk w/gpt first?
Yes, you can.
....booting rescue.. why does sysd complain about missing groups: tty, kmem, video, audio, disk, cdrom
then fail to generate issue-generator fail issue-generator network add enp0s17 -- no such file or directory fail issue-generator network dd enp0s8 -- no such file or directory
--- seems sysd doesn't know how to start a rescue system -- though since a rescue system is supposed to start from a shell, how do I boot to a shell?
I have no idea what you are doing or what your are using. When I select rescue system from installation medium it boots into text mode shell.
---- I booted from the separate rescue CD.
adding init=/bin/sh => ignored.
I doubt installation medum even has /bin/sh until installer is loaded and mounted all necessary parts.
---- But being able to provide an option to boot to shell instead of "init" or (in this case) "systemd", was a failsafe option...
It starts a gui desktop. Why can't I get to a terminal from here? I try pressing ALT-F1 to get to the 1st console, but its ignored, and alt-f2 gets brings up an application finder.
This has been the case in X11 GUI since ever.
---- ??? When I'm at the console, if I start a GUI, I can press ALT-F1 to get one of the alternate consoles -- usually graphics was on tty7 (alt-f7), w/text mode tty1-6 available via alt-f{1..6}. This was the case prior to sysd. Well, how to start text mode & find partitioner seems solved -- the rest was stuff from a rescue disk, so I can see the confusion, so nevermind on that... ;-) Thanks again!.. Linda W. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-04-18 20:52, L A Walsh wrote:
Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
It starts a gui desktop. Why can't I get to a terminal from here? I try pressing ALT-F1 to get to the 1st console, but its ignored, and alt-f2 gets brings up an application finder.
This has been the case in X11 GUI since ever.
---- ??? When I'm at the console, if I start a GUI, I can press ALT-F1 to get one of the alternate consoles -- usually graphics was on tty7 (alt-f7), w/text mode tty1-6 available via alt-f{1..6}. This was the case prior to sysd.
No. It has always been ctrl-alt-f1, never alt-f1, as far as I remember. Once you are in text mode, alt-f1, alt-f2, etc do work. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
No. It has always been ctrl-alt-f1, never alt-f1, as far as I remember.
Once you are in text mode, alt-f1, alt-f2, etc do work.
---- Ahh! That explains some things. I always thought it was CA-F{1-7}, but that never worked on my main system (which boots in text mode). I noted it was only Alt-F{1-7} that ever worked for me. It has been so long since I booted in a graphics mode, that I was beginning to think it was only the Alt variation that worked. Thanks for explaining it! Now, 2-3 questions -- where do I edit the network settings? and why don't I see the packages on the DVD when I go into the SW manager in yast? (sure wish I could cut/paste the text from the text console so I could show what I'm seeing). 3rd -- I still don't know why none of the lvm modules were loaded. (dm_XXXXXX). I finally got it to work manually, but don't know why the new system startup code didn't load them automatically -- even my old startup code knows how to do that. This is sorta similar to the last time I tried booting from an initrd -- nothing worked the way it was supposed to. In this case, the installation code should have ensured the lvm modules were loaded before trying to activate LVM. If I had put the entire disk on LVM, it's likely the machine wouldn't have made it to where it did (boot & sys mounted -- w/all of system on root partition (cept for 'boot'). Then again, maybe its because I did put all it needed to boot the OS on the 'raw' disk (in the 1st 3 gpt partitions) that it skipped the needed modules for LVM(/home). Ug. Thanks again for the Ctl-Alt vs. Alt. -- things are so simple when you already know the answer(s). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-04-19 20:42, L A Walsh wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
No. It has always been ctrl-alt-f1, never alt-f1, as far as I remember.
Once you are in text mode, alt-f1, alt-f2, etc do work.
---- Ahh! That explains some things.
I always thought it was CA-F{1-7}, but that never worked on my main system (which boots in text mode). I noted it was only Alt-F{1-7} that ever worked for me. It has been so long since I booted in a graphics mode, that I was beginning to think it was only the Alt variation that worked. Thanks for explaining it!
Welcome!
Now, 2-3 questions -- where do I edit the network settings?
In YaST. You setup the network in YaST, as always, it has not changed. The actual implementation does, but not YaST. If you want to use Network Manager, then you tell so to YaST, and then handle it in your desktop of choice, in the Network Manager applet. There are also CLI tools, but I'm not familiar with them.
and
why don't I see the packages on the DVD when I go into the SW manager in yast?
Probably the DVD repo is missing. For instance, in one Leap machine I have:
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI | Service
2 | openSUSE-42.2-0 | openSUSE-42.2-0 | No | ---- | ---- | 99 | yast2 | hd:///?device=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Verbatim_STORE_N_GO_1203001215022E28-0:0-part2 |
Isengard:~ # cat /etc/zypp/repos.d/openSUSE-42.2-0.repo [openSUSE-42.2-0] name=openSUSE-42.2-0 enabled=0 autorefresh=1 baseurl=hd:///?device=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Verbatim_STORE_N_GO_1203001215022E28-0:0-part2 path=/ type=yast2 keeppackages=0 Isengard:~ # It is not an actual DVD, but a USB stick in my case.
(sure wish I could cut/paste the text from the text console so I could show what I'm seeing).
You can, with 'gpm'.
3rd -- I still don't know why none of the lvm modules were loaded. (dm_XXXXXX). I finally got it to work manually, but don't know why the new system startup code didn't load them automatically -- even my old startup code knows how to do that.
Andrei said why in another post: ]> You use thin provisioning pool which is not supported by YaST and so ]> probably not tested either. Standard volume types do not require extra ]> modules beyond dm-mod and dm-mod is loaded (although my guess is that it ]> is loaded due to /dev/mapper/control device alias). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 19/04/17 21:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
If you want to use Network Manager, then you tell so to YaST, and then handle it in your desktop of choice, in the Network Manager applet. There are also CLI tools, but I'm not familiar with them.
Note that Network Manager, KDE, and WiFi is an absolute disaster ... Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Wols Lists wrote:
On 19/04/17 21:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
If you want to use Network Manager, then you tell so to YaST, and then handle it in your desktop of choice, in the Network Manager applet. There are also CLI tools, but I'm not familiar with them.
Note that Network Manager, KDE, and WiFi is an absolute disaster ...
I usually don't play with Network Manager, but it was the only way I could get WiFi to work on a new Lenovo laptop. Works well, except for getting network drives mounted and such. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-04-22 15:20, Per Jessen wrote:
Wols Lists wrote:
On 19/04/17 21:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
If you want to use Network Manager, then you tell so to YaST, and then handle it in your desktop of choice, in the Network Manager applet. There are also CLI tools, but I'm not familiar with them.
Note that Network Manager, KDE, and WiFi is an absolute disaster ...
I usually don't play with Network Manager, but it was the only way I could get WiFi to work on a new Lenovo laptop. Works well, except for getting network drives mounted and such.
I use NM in my laptop with XFCE, works just fine :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
18.04.2017 21:52, L A Walsh пишет:
Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
18.04.2017 19:19, L A Walsh пишет:
Installer defaults to whatever disk label is in use currently.
--- That's why I was trying the repair disk -- (since I couldn't figure out how to change the label in the installer-DVD).
Did you try to press F3? yes -- didn't understand the menu until you told me to retry it...saw: ===================== Installer Size ⏵ Text Console Size ⏵ Video BIOS Size ⏵
Text mode Color Mode ⏵ Screen Reader ⏵ =====================
I thought 'text mode' was a sub-header (tried txt console size, but
Yes, it seems to have changed since last time I used it. ENTER toggles "Text mode", ESC exits dialogue. ...
After not finding how to toggle text mode, I hit ESC, and that put me in text mode. I tried booting from there -- and that's where it went back to the GUI.
Selected option is visually marked with checkbox character. Selecting text mode works (I actually tested it). ...
....booting rescue.. why does sysd complain about missing groups: tty, kmem, video, audio, disk, cdrom
then fail to generate issue-generator fail issue-generator network add enp0s17 -- no such file or directory fail issue-generator network dd enp0s8 -- no such file or directory
--- seems sysd doesn't know how to start a rescue system -- though since a rescue system is supposed to start from a shell, how do I boot to a shell?
I have no idea what you are doing or what your are using. When I select rescue system from installation medium it boots into text mode shell.
---- I booted from the separate rescue CD.
Well, you did not say it; you can also "boot rescue" from main installation medium. I have never used separate rescue medium. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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