I have an Evergreen Technologies Fireline PCI firewire card, and Fireline CDRW. Evergreen doesn't have Linux drivers for them. Just upgraded to SuSE 7.2, because I read the 2.4 kernal had firewire support. My card and burner aren't being seen. I'm very much at the low user level with linux, although not with other...things. I've seen the sourceforge page on IEEE1394. Does anyone have advice on other places I might wish to check, or places to start? Be well, Lissa -- ABNORMAL, adj. Not conforming to standard. In matters of thought and conduct, to be independent is to be abnormal, to be abnormal is to be detested. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
On Thursday 26 July 2001 08:20 am, Lissa wrote:
I have an Evergreen Technologies Fireline PCI firewire card, and Fireline CDRW. Evergreen doesn't have Linux drivers for them.
Just upgraded to SuSE 7.2, because I read the 2.4 kernal had firewire support. My card and burner aren't being seen.
I'm very much at the low user level with linux, although not with other...things. I've seen the sourceforge page on IEEE1394. Does anyone have advice on other places I might wish to check, or places to start?
Be well, Lissa
Hi Lissa, You should read the FireWire project page at http://linux1394.sourceforge.net This will help you immensely. Let me know if you need any help. Good luck, Steven
Hello SuSE folkz, Last time I had the same issue with SuSE7.1. I couldn't use Roxen module IMHO. When I tried to login or send message in IMHO interface it crashed with the bunch of pike errors. Exactly the same I've got in SuSE7.2. I deleted default SuSE Roxen/pike/IMHO installation went to Roxen and IMHO websites and downloaded original packages. After I installed them everything started to work like a charm. I compared packages Roxen/pike and IMHO downloaded from original sources and packages that came with SuSE 7.2 distro. I saw differences between them. Even installation directories were different. In SuSE version of Roxen it's /usr/lib/roxen in original version of Roxen it's /usr/local/roxen. Could somebody tell me why SuSE developers are horsing around with the software they didn't develop. Why they can't just accept it's default parameters/installation settings and live happy with it. Why they playing even with standard KDE startup scripts. I was getting Knotify crash all the time till I copied startkde file from other distro and everything started to work fine. Excessive originality is always worse than an average mediocrity. Sorry for this outcry. I had a very bad morning. Regards. Alex
I have to agree with you. dep had an article on LinuxPlanet that delved
into this very thing and mentioned (rightly) SuSE by name by putting things
in wierd places. I can only imagine the SuSE engineers are sometimes
smoking somthing when they decide to put applications in /var and /usr/lib
(a Corel-like mistake). Of course to put things in perspective, Red Hat is
even worse.
John
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From: "Alex Daniloff"
Hello SuSE folkz, <snip> Excessive originality is always worse than an average mediocrity. Sorry for this outcry. I had a very bad morning. Regards. Alex
John Scott wrote:
I have to agree with you. dep had an article on LinuxPlanet that delved into this very thing and mentioned (rightly) SuSE by name by putting things in wierd places. I can only imagine the SuSE engineers are sometimes
This kind of remark always makes me angry. OF COURSE we put it into different places than the original authors sometimes. Those authors only take care of there own software, but we have >2000 of such packages. If we were to accept all the defaults those authors choose the software would be all over the directory structure. Also, we follow the FHS (part of LSB), and the original Roxen is most definitely in gross violation of this Linux standard. They can do that, because why should Roxen follow a "Linux" standard, for them it's just one more platform, but when SuSE puts their software on SuSE CDs it better behaves according to the Linux standard, period. Of course you can argue about details, as usual, but don't try to tell us we should accept Roxen defaults. Roxen/IMHO in 7.2: I've installed it at Oracle on one of our machines for webaccess to Oracle mail (they've IMAP) and it worked out of the box.
smoking somthing when they decide to put applications in /var and /usr/lib (a Corel-like mistake). Of course to put things in perspective, Red Hat is even worse.
On Friday 27 July 2001 12:46, Michael Hasenstein wrote:
This kind of remark always makes me angry. OF COURSE we put it into different places than the original authors sometimes. Those authors only take care of there own software, but we have >2000 of such packages. If we were to accept all the defaults those authors choose the software would be all over the directory structure.
Thanks for putting this into perspective from the SuSE point of view. Most people don't really know what it takes to put out "shrink wrap" quality products, and often speak out of ignorance. When you consider that SuSE is putting out one of the highest quality (if not *the* highest) Linux distros on the planet, and just what it takes to *ensure* that quality for all those packages, then you begin to realize what an undertaking it all can be. Best regards, and many thanks for a terrific product, Ron Cordell
On Friday 27 July 2001 01:15 pm, Ron Cordell wrote:
On Friday 27 July 2001 12:46, Michael Hasenstein wrote:
This kind of remark always makes me angry. OF COURSE we put it into different places than the original authors sometimes. Those authors only take care of there own software, but we have >2000 of such packages. If we were to accept all the defaults those authors choose the software would be all over the directory structure.
Thanks for putting this into perspective from the SuSE point of view. Most people don't really know what it takes to put out "shrink wrap" quality products, and often speak out of ignorance. When you consider that SuSE is putting out one of the highest quality (if not *the* highest) Linux distros on the planet, and just what it takes to *ensure* that quality for all those packages, then you begin to realize what an undertaking it all can be.
Best regards, and many thanks for a terrific product,
Ron Cordell
Anonymous: "I once thought of making a Linux distribution... then I slapped myself silly and went back to trying to cure cancer." -Steven
Of course I meant no offense to any developers there, but I couldn't help
but notice how as I added kde2 to my install the /var partition space
requirement grew quite significantly. What is there in the LSB that
requires that anything from kde be installed there? I can compliment you
guys all day for putting out a quality product because you do, but things
generally improve as a result of criticism. As a paying customer I think
I've earned the right. "smoking something"...okay perhaps that's a bit
overboard, but I really thought everyone would recognize that as a joke.
Again, no offense. Better to get criticism from a guy who shelled out 129DM
than praise from those who've been downloading from day one. Nicht wahr?
John
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From: "Ron Cordell"
On Friday 27 July 2001 12:46, Michael Hasenstein wrote:
This kind of remark always makes me angry. OF COURSE we put it into different places than the original authors sometimes. Those authors only take care of there own software, but we have >2000 of such packages. If we were to accept all the defaults those authors choose the software
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John Scott wrote:
Of course I meant no offense to any developers there, but I couldn't help but notice how as I added kde2 to my install the /var partition space requirement grew quite significantly. What is there in the LSB that requires that anything from kde be installed there? I can compliment you guys all day for putting out a quality product because you do, but things generally improve as a result of criticism. As a paying customer I think I've earned the right. "smoking something"...okay perhaps that's a bit overboard, but I really thought everyone would recognize that as a joke. Again, no offense. Better to get criticism from a guy who shelled out 129DM than praise from those who've been downloading from day one. Nicht wahr?
We were talking about Roxen as far as I can tell and the criticism was "but it's completely different from the original roxen structure", which is true and which I explained.
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Alex Daniloff
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J-Scott@t-online.de
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Lissa
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Michael Hasenstein
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Ron Cordell
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Steven Hatfield