[opensuse] Re: A BIG "show stopper" for openSUSE at the corporate level anyway!!
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:19:26 -0400, Damon Register wrote:
How many home users even know how to do daily backups? How many have the technology? Of course my coworkers might argue I am not the normal user but I have daily backup of my wife's computer. One of our admins here showed me how to do it with rsync and it was very easy. Thanks for reminding me
Jim Henderson wrote: that I was supposed to help my father set that up on his computer.
Which is great until that backup fails. I don't know how much data you've got, but if I ran two backups of all the computers in my house, I'd probably need a couple of TB drives. I archive my DVDs and CDs and that takes a *lot* of space.
I've got 4 dead DLT drives in the basement. I just suffered the near total loss of the drive that was holding my backups (the drive isn't even recognised by the system any more). for me that isn't a problem because I have two identical backup drives and use rsync for those too. The nightly order is backup1 > backup2 then wife's pc > backup1
It's good you can afford the time and the hardware to do this. Many home users can't. Do you really think people who are buying OLPC PCs are going to have the resources available to buy another hard drive or two for backup purposes?
small segment of the desktops out there. As the desktop market grows, the need will likely grow as well. That makes me wonder if Linux ever really catches on in the desktop market, would the virus issue become as serious as it is for Windows? I have heard plenty of arguments that Linux is much safer but I often wonder if it is safer only because it isn't mainstream enough to interest the virus writers.
It's hard to say, but it seems to me it makes sense to prepare for that possibility - far less sense to have people go "oh crap, it *is* susceptible after all" once the desktop becomes popular enough to be a target. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Jim Henderson
Which is great until that backup fails. I don't know how much data you've got, but if I ran two backups of all the computers in my house, I'd probably need a couple of TB drives. I archive my DVDs and CDs and that takes a *lot* of space.
I do not consider ripped DVDs and CD "critical". Unless you are not doing anything unlawful, you still have the original - better than any backup :) And, for that matter, such a data is not accessed regulary, and will not suffer if they are placed on a RAID5 volume.
It's good you can afford the time and the hardware to do this. Many home users can't. Do you really think people who are buying OLPC PCs are going to have the resources available to buy another hard drive or two for backup purposes?
Do you really think that OLPC will be able to perform "any" useful work, if it has on-access file scan enabled?
It's hard to say, but it seems to me it makes sense to prepare for that possibility - far less sense to have people go "oh crap, it *is* susceptible after all" once the desktop becomes popular enough to be a target.
As mentioned before - the only way an executable may appear on a user's computer, and run therefor, is if the user put it there, and change the execution permission. So, in order to file to appear on the computer - it have to be downloaded (the browser may invoke AV after download), received by email (on demand scan when message arrives), or copied over from another medium - in such a case manual scan will be enough. Only the last case may kind of "require" on-access scan, as people are lazy. And still there is possibility to use another means, like monitoring a directory for changes, and scan on write, not on read. And if somebody is stupid enough to run an executable out of removable media (usb stick) w/o checking it - you know, one can never "outsmart" the creative stupidity. You can not even prevent any user to delete his own files by "mistake". Anyway, I think that this thread should end already. Obviously the discussion should not happen here, but on a kernel developer's list, as this is the kernel devs that decided to not implement on-access scan in the kernel in the first place. Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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