You are absolutely correct! Two systems, I should have said, as well as multiple posts to this list stating that things broke during updates. In my SuSE linux post list, I have 2189, as of this date, and very large portion of them deal w/broken stuff after updates.

I am in somewhat unique circumstances, possibly, in the fact that I rarely have posted until recently. This was not by design, it was merely because, having stayed w/the initial installation, I have had absolutely no problems --and no YOU updates, either. When ever I break that practice I have to use the 'unconditional update' option & revert to what is on the CD. This is very worrysome, and I am not alone.

Of course, there are exceptions! There always are! My major exception was RealPlayer10, which slid right in on one box, and I suspect it was because there was no previous installation so I didn't forget to uninstall the first (or try & be a big-shot (or big-sh*t) and keep both).

Again, I digress. :-) -- ..."Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio "If music be the food of love, why can't rabbits sing?"

You know, it says right in the instructions on RealPlayer10 that you probably need to remove some RealPlayer8 files in order to get it to run correctly, so that is just a bad example. Plus, you don't upgrade to RealPlayer10 through YOU. The fact is, YOU works fabulously well. I have NEVER had a broken system from a YOU update. I currently keep 6 machines running on Suse versions 8.2, 9.0 and 9.1, and I do nightly YOU update checks for all of them. I very highly doubt that the majority of the "2189" posts you have downloaded have to do with individual problems specific to YOU. In fact, I'll bet you'll find that there are only a handful of specific YOU related problems in that group. I just can't see any reason why anyone would bash YOU at this point - Suse really seems to have this technology very well figured out. Of course, it is always good to keep your installation CD's on hand - that goes without saying. Andy Prough Austin, Texas