Thanks - I'll try curl when I get a chance and see what happens. I could also always just download the CD's since they seem to be seen as the proper size. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- cleary_mike@emc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- There are 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. -----Original Message----- From: William Gallafent [mailto:william@gallaf.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 10:56 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] 9.3 iso On Friday 08 July 2005 14:46, Cleary_Mike@emc.com wrote:
I have downloaded the 9.3 eval iso, but the size is wrong. It is supposed to be 4.3 GB in size, but every time I try to download, the size is seen as 189 MB. Even w/ a download manager. In other words, as it is downloading, the progress is shown as "x MB of 189 MB complete". I have tried several different mirrors with the same result. If the file gets downloaded, it is 189MB. ??? Am I missing something here?
2^32 B = 4294967296 B = 4 GB Your downloading tools probably can't handle files larger than 4GB. Try curl. Here on my 9.2 system I have curl-7.12.0-2.2 rpm installed. I believe it can handle files larger than 4GB. (Probably up to 16 exabytes, if it uses 64 bit unsigned values for file sizes. That should be enough for the next few SuSE releases, at least...) man curl: "curl is a tool to transfer data from or to a server, using one of the supported protocols (HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, FTPS, GOPHER, DICT, TELNET, LDAP or FILE). The command is designed to work without user interaction. "curl offers a busload of useful tricks like proxy support, user authentication, ftp upload, HTTP post, SSL (https:) connections, cookies, file transfer resume and more. As you will see below, the amount of features will make your head spin! "curl is powered by libcurl for all transfer-related features. See libcurl(3) for details." HTH, -- Bill -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Friday 08 July 2005 19:41, Cleary_Mike@emc.com wrote:
Thanks - I'll try curl when I get a chance and see what happens. I could also always just download the CD's since they seem to be seen as the proper size.
Remember that the software selections are different. For i386 systems I believe you actually get _more_ from the CDs than from the DVD! For x86_64 systems, on the other hand, the DVD has more. From ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/README_eval.txt: What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ==================================================== * the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries. -- Bill
On Friday, July 08, 2005 @ 11:10 AM, William Gallafent wrote:
On Friday 08 July 2005 19:41, Cleary_Mike@emc.com wrote:
Thanks - I'll try curl when I get a chance and see what happens. I could also always just download the CD's since they seem to be seen as the proper size.
Remember that the software selections are different. For i386 systems I believe you actually get _more_ from the CDs than from the DVD! For x86_64 systems, on the other hand, the DVD has more.
From ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/README_eval.txt:
What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ====================================================
* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries.
-- Bill
Wow! From earlier posts, I had come to believe that the DVDs now had the most complete set of packages in general. What this says (as you say) is that the 64 bit version is only on the DVD but the most complete 32 bit version is on the CDs. That's completely different. I must have really been misreading some of those earlier posts. Greg Wallace
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2005-07-08 at 22:51 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
From ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/README_eval.txt:
What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ====================================================
* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries.
Wow! From earlier posts, I had come to believe that the DVDs now had the most complete set of packages in general. What this says (as you say) is that the 64 bit version is only on the DVD but the most complete 32 bit version is on the CDs. That's completely different. I must have really been misreading some of those earlier posts.
In the case of the bought dvd, it is different, it is complete with both 32 and 64 bit versions, and the CDs are incomplete. But it is a double layer one. Funny choice! - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFC0RCvtTMYHG2NR9URAhE/AJ9w5yDzYqcTlwOOMPknIDwAexQkFACfRxLn +wRdzj3oNruegpLOS4YBPU4= =LMWT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sunday, July 10, 2005 @ 4:12 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Friday 2005-07-08 at 22:51 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
From ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/README_eval.txt:
What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ====================================================
* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries.
Wow! From earlier posts, I had come to believe that the DVDs now had the most complete set of packages in general. What this says (as you say) is that the 64 bit version is only on the DVD but the most complete 32 bit version is on the CDs. That's completely different. I must have really been misreading some of those earlier posts.
In the case of the bought dvd, it is different, it is complete with both 32 and 64 bit versions, and the CDs are incomplete. But it is a double layer one.
Funny choice!
- -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
I'd been thinking about that myself. I guess the demo version has only a subset of the packages available on the bought version and that the full set of packages is just too much for a CD to hold. Greg Wallace
On Sunday, July 10, 2005 @ 8:52 PM, I wrote:
On Sunday, July 10, 2005 @ 4:12 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Friday 2005-07-08 at 22:51 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:
From ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/README_eval.txt:
What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition ====================================================
* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit version of the software. * the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450 additional packages not available on the 32-bit version included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional packages are mostly language packages for applications and development versions of various software libraries.
Wow! From earlier posts, I had come to believe that the DVDs now had the most complete set of packages in general. What this says (as you say) is that the 64 bit version is only on the DVD but the most complete 32 bit version is on the CDs. That's completely different. I must have really been misreading some of those earlier posts.
In the case of the bought dvd, it is different, it is complete with both 32 and 64 bit versions, and the CDs are incomplete. But it is a double layer one.
Funny choice!
- -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
I'd been thinking about that myself. I guess the demo version has only a subset of the packages available on the bought version and that the full set of packages is just too much for a CD to hold.
Greg Wallace
Never mind. I'm still getting confused between this demo site and what comes in the boxed set. According to this site, -- "the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3." But based on other posts, I have read that there is really more on the DVD in the boxed set than on the CDs in the boxed set. So, I'll try to summarize with a lot of reading between the lines. 1) The on-line CDs are more complete than the on-line DVDs. 2) The DVD in the boxed set has more than either of the above and is the most complete of all. 3) The CDs in the boxed set don't have everything that's on the DVDs in the boxed set. Maybe the boxed set CDs are the same as the CDs in the demo, maybe there are some additional packages on the CDs in the boxed set (or maybe not?), but there aren't as many packages in these CDs as on the DVD in the boxed set. Could anything be more clear? Greg Wallace
"Greg Wallace"
But based on other posts, I have read that there is really more on the DVD in the boxed set than on the CDs in the boxed set. So, I'll try to summarize with a lot of reading between the lines.
1) The on-line CDs are more complete than the on-line DVDs. 2) The DVD in the boxed set has more than either of the above and is the most complete of all. 3) The CDs in the boxed set don't have everything that's on the DVDs in the boxed set. Maybe the boxed set CDs are the same as the CDs in the demo, maybe there are some additional packages on the CDs in the boxed set (or maybe not?), but there aren't as many packages in these CDs as on the DVD in the boxed set.
Could anything be more clear?
Yes, that's correct. In addition: * The online CDs are exactly the same as the one in the box with the only difference that they run an md5sum test at the beginning. * The DVD is a subset of what's on the box DVD (the online DVD has 4.5 GB so that you can burn and read it with every DVD burner, the box DVD has 8.5 GB which means you need a dual layer burner and might not be able to read it everywhere). Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Sunday, July 10, 2005 @ 10:21 PM, Adreas Jaeger wrote:
"Greg Wallace"
writes:
But based on other posts, I have read that there is really more on the DVD in the boxed set than on the CDs in the boxed set. So, I'll try to summarize with a lot of reading between the lines.
1) The on-line CDs are more complete than the on-line DVDs. 2) The DVD in the boxed set has more than either of the above and is the most complete of all. 3) The CDs in the boxed set don't have everything that's on the DVDs in the boxed set. Maybe the boxed set CDs are the same as the CDs in the demo, maybe there are some additional packages on the CDs in the boxed set (or maybe not?), but there aren't as many packages in these CDs as on the DVD in the boxed set.
Could anything be more clear?
Yes, that's correct. In addition:
* The online CDs are exactly the same as the one in the box with the only difference that they run an md5sum test at the beginning. * The DVD is a subset of what's on the box DVD (the online DVD has 4.5 GB so that you can burn and read it with every DVD burner, the box DVD has 8.5 GB which means you need a dual layer burner and might not be able to read it everywhere).
.Andreas
-- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Thanks. I'm saving this note off to my suse linux notes directory in case I get confused again later (knowing me, not entirely unlikely). Greg Wallace
"Greg Wallace"
[...] Thanks. I'm saving this note off to my suse linux notes directory in case I get confused again later (knowing me, not entirely unlikely).
Try to get it on the suse wiki ;-) and then ask me to proof read it... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Monday, July 11, 2005 @ 2:02 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
[...] Thanks. I'm saving this note off to my suse linux notes directory in case I get confused again later (knowing me, not entirely unlikely).
Try to get it on the suse wiki ;-) and then ask me to proof read it...
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Duh, what's the suse wiki? Greg Wallace
El Lunes, 11 de Julio de 2005 08:20, Andreas Jaeger escribió:
* The DVD is a subset of what's on the box DVD (the online DVD has 4.5 GB so that you can burn and read it with every DVD burner, the box DVD has 8.5 GB which means you need a dual layer burner and might not be able to read it everywhere).
Yes, but you can convert the boxed DVD 9.3 iso in two equivalent single layered DVD using jigdo. See http://www.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Remastering_dvd_with_jigdo SuSE should use jigdo ;-) Guillermo. -- Guillermo Ballester Valor gbv@oxixares.com Ogijares, Granada SPAIN Linux user #117181. See http://counter.li.org/ Public GPG KEY http://www.oxixares.com/~gbv/pubgpg.html
hello list, just wanted to ask if anyone of you know how to change the colour of the background in the tooltips? From what I gathered it seemed hardcoded in kde. Anyone that can shed some light on this issue? I am running suse9.2 and kde 3.2 (I think, not sure of how to find out my kde version) cheers, Mikael
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Andreas Jaeger
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William Gallafent