-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: On Thursday, 2022-12-29 at 13:28 +0100, Bengt Gördén wrote:

On 2022-12-29 10:49, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2022-12-29 08:41, Fred wrote:

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:14:15 +0100 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Can you suggest some other software that actually works?

Hey, Carlos - why beat yourself up trying to get some program to run when you can use your browser and run: https://www.radio.net/ and let them do all the work?

There are a couple of others streaming sites. https://streema.com

This one is nice, small window results. 20% CPU on two cores. Keeper, I think.

https://tunein.com/

If I search for the station name, as found instantly by streema (cadena ser cartagena) it finds nothing. Searching on the laptop is not easy. I click another station in Madrid instead. CPU load seems lower than streema, though.

https://streema.com/radios/search/?country.name=Spain&q=Cartagena

Yep, it works. Easy to use.

I was looking for internet radio software a couple of years ago. I found a page, I think it was this one. It may have been updated since then but it looks like this one.

https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-internet-radio-software/

Ohhh, thanks :-) It says the best is "Shortwave", but they say I have to compile it. I'm not keen on that, not at the destination computer. They say it is based in Gradio. Gradio is available, I tried it already. It is incapable of finding any station at all, something must be missing. Gradio is not listed in that page above. Tried pyradio (python). Only 35 stations. Useless. "Gnome Internet Radio locator", doesn't list ANY station in Spain. Ok, two minor ones. Useless. "tuner" is not available. "radio-active" is not available. There is a home repo (home:Dead_Mozay:GNOME:Apps !) that has "shortwave", so I could try. It wants to install libadwaita also from that home repo, I'll try instead from the oss repo. Well, shortwave coredumps. Will try libadwaita from the home repo. Nah, coredumps as well. Uninstalling. Streamtuner I used in the past. Can't install it, as it wants python-gtk, which is not available, unless I add repo "devel:languages:python". What? At http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages%3A/ there is no python. how come "opi" found it? https://search.opensuse.org/packages/ doesn't find the package. Sigh... I'll allow opi to do it all. Telcontar:~ # opi streamtuner2 1. streamtuner2 Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 You have selected package name: streamtuner2 1. Packman Multimedia ? | 2.2.0 | noarch 2. home:ecsos ! | 2.2.2 | noarch 3. home:alveus:plex ! | 2.2.1 | noarch 4. home:phoenix.os:plex ! | 2.2.1 | noarch Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 You have selected binary package: Packman Multimedia ? | 2.2.0 | noarch ... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: nothing provides 'python-gtk' needed by the to be installed streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch Solution 1: do not install streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch Solution 2: break streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c/d/?] (c): c Telcontar:~ # opi streamtuner2 1. streamtuner2 Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 You have selected package name: streamtuner2 1. Packman Multimedia ? | 2.2.0 | noarch 2. home:ecsos ! | 2.2.2 | noarch 3. home:alveus:plex ! | 2.2.1 | noarch 4. home:phoenix.os:plex ! | 2.2.1 | noarch Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 You have selected binary package: Packman Multimedia ? | 2.2.0 | noarch Repository 'EXT: Packman Repository' is up to date. ... All repositories have been refreshed. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: nothing provides 'python-gtk' needed by the to be installed streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch Solution 1: do not install streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch Solution 2: break streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c/d/?] (c): c Telcontar:~ # opi python-gtk 1. python-gtk 2. python-gtk-doc 3. python-gtk-devel 4. python-gtk-debuginfo 5. python-gtk-debugsource Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 You have selected package name: python-gtk 1. devel:languages:python ? | 2.24.0 | x86_64 2. devel:languages:python:backports ? | 2.24.0 | x86_64 3. devel:languages:python:backports ? | 2.24.0 | x86_64 4. home:Sauerland ! | 2.24.0 | x86_64 5. home:msalle:extras ! | 2.24.0 | x86_64 6. home:suyedy ! | 2.24.0 | x86_64 Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 You have selected binary package: devel:languages:python ? | 2.24.0 | x86_64 ... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: nothing provides 'python-gobject2 >= 2.21.3' needed by the to be installed python-gtk-2.24.0-lp154.60.28.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install python-gtk-2.24.0-lp154.60.28.x86_64 Solution 2: break python-gtk-2.24.0-lp154.60.28.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c/d/?] (c): 1 Resolving dependencies... Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. Do you want to keep the repo "devel_languages_python"? (Y/n) y Telcontar:~ # merde! Telcontar:~ # opi python-gobject2 1. python-gobject2 2. python-gobject2-devel 3. python-gobject2-debuginfo 4. python-gobject2-debugsource Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 You have selected package name: python-gobject2 1. GNOME:STABLE:41 ? | 2.28.7 | x86_64 2. devel:languages:python:backports ? | 2.28.7 | x86_64 3. devel:languages:python:backports ? | 2.28.7 | x86_64 4. home:Sauerland ! | 2.28.7 | x86_64 5. home:msalle:extras ! | 2.28.7 | x86_64 Pick a number (0 to quit): 2 You have selected binary package: devel:languages:python:backports ? | 2.28.7 | x86_64 ... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following NEW package is going to be installed: python-gobject2 1 new package to install. Overall download size: 276.3 KiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 1.2 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): y Retrieving package python-gobject2-2.28.7-lp154.5.2.x86_64 (1/1), 276.3 KiB ( 1.2 MiB unpacked) Retrieving: python-gobject2-2.28.7-lp154.5.2.x86_64.rpm ...............................................................................................................................................................................[done] Checking for file conflicts: ..........................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] (1/1) Installing: python-gobject2-2.28.7-lp154.5.2.x86_64 .............................................................................................................................................................................[done] Do you want to keep the repo "devel_languages_python_backports"? (Y/n) y Telcontar:~ # Telcontar:~ # zypper install streamtuner2 Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: nothing provides 'python-lxml' needed by the to be installed streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch Solution 1: do not install streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch Solution 2: break streamtuner2-2.2.0-pm154.8.1.noarch by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c/d/?] (c): c Telcontar:~ # Telcontar:~ # opi python-lxml 1. python-lxml-doc 2. python-lxml-debugsource 3. python-lxml-debuginfo Pick a number (0 to quit): 0 Telcontar:~ # Oh, hell with us! I quit. :-/ I have now two more repos and no app: https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/pytho/15.4/ https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/python:/backpor... And opi installed a duplicate of packman repo that I have to remove now. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. 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On 2022-12-29 15:55, Bengt Gördén wrote:

On 2022-12-29 15:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:>> https://streema.com/radios/search/?country.name=Spain&q=Cartagena

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Yep, it works. Easy to use.

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I was looking for internet radio software a couple of years ago. I found a page, I think it was this one. It may have been updated since then but it looks like this one.

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https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-internet-radio-software/

Ohhh, thanks :-)

You're welcome.

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"tuner" is not available.

I can see it in X11:Pantheon:Apps for Leap 15.4

https://build.opensuse.org/package/binaries/X11:Pantheon:Apps/tuner/openSUSE...

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And opi installed a duplicate of packman repo that I have to remove now.

Haven't tried opi but I prefer to handle such things manually. If I crash something, at least I know what I did wrong.

You are right, so do I, but https://software.opensuse.org/search? doesn't find things. Doesn't find "tuner", for instance, while opi does. The problem is that opi does not print the found repo url, it tries to install things itself. Ok, installed "tuner". It says "something went wrong loading radio station data from radio-browser.info. Please try again later." Anyway, it does find "Cadena ser" but not "cadena ser cartagena". Finds Cadena ser Murcia, and works :-DDD I'm a happy camper, thanks :-DD Weird. I closed the window, but it continued playing. Message popup said to click here to restore window, but did not restore. And I see no minimalized "tuner" window. ps afxu USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND cer 6107 5.7 1.2 3334208 830784 ? Sl 20:37 0:34 | | \_ com.github.louis77.tuner cer@Telcontar:~> killall com.github.louis77.tuner cer@Telcontar:~> It is certainly a keeper, but this behaviour is strange. I'll have to remember to stop the station first. https://www.linuxlinks.com/tuner-radio-station-player/3/ says it can als watch TV stations. WHAAAT!? (oh, now the error on radio-browser.info is gone. Still, no Cartagena (Spain) stations at all) I installed it on laptop. In here, it becomes unresponsive as I type "cade " for searching "cadena ser murcia". Mouse disappears, xfce offers to kill unresponsive app. Try again, this time I succeed. CPU load negligible. 3%. Ok, it has some quirks, but it is a keeper. :-D -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 2022-12-29 22:34, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 21:06:43 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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On 2022-12-29 15:55, Bengt Gördén wrote:

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On 2022-12-29 15:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:>>

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"tuner" is not available.

I can see it in X11:Pantheon:Apps for Leap 15.4

https://build.opensuse.org/package/binaries/X11:Pantheon:Apps/tuner/openSUSE...

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Ok, installed "tuner". It says "something went wrong loading radio station data from radio-browser.info. Please try again later."

Anyway, it does find "Cadena ser" but not "cadena ser cartagena". Finds Cadena ser Murcia, and works :-DDD

I'm a happy camper, thanks :-DD

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https://www.linuxlinks.com/tuner-radio-station-player/3/

says it can als watch TV stations. WHAAAT!?

What does it use to play the media? If it uses e.g. vlc then that can easily play either audio or video streams.

I don't know, I did not find a station to watch. Tried a few with TV in their names, but were actually voice stations. None of the BBC ones I tried worked. Audio is played directly by the app. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [oS-EN] Trying to listen to internet radio stations Message-ID : <00585d91-1cb7-f44e-6993-4504d4d966db@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:05:07 +0100 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written: [...[ CER> >> https://streema.com/radios/search/?country.name=Spain&q=Cartagena CER> > CER> > Yep, it works. Easy to use. [...] CER> A suspicion: when I mark one station as preferred in "tuner", CER> and that station stops working, I can search again for the CER> station, and what I find may work, but the saved station doesn't. CER> I think that commercial stations keep changing their connection datato make CER> these applications fail. It is probably due to the fact that the broadcaster does not support ssl. Have you checked the URL of the broadcaster? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post --

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [oS-EN] Trying to listen to internet radio stations Message-ID : <8bc74a55-bbf7-bc2a-54e6-3a52ed3deb9b@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:04:20 +0100 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written: [...[ CER>>> I think that commercial stations keep changing their CER>>> connection datato make these applications fail. MN>> It is probably due to the fact that the broadcaster does not support MN>> ssl. MN> Have you checked the URL of the broadcaster? CER> I have no idea how to do it. I checked this; https://streema.com/radios/search/?country.name=Spain&q=Cartagena The following three stations are visible, now. 1. Onda Cero Cartagena 2. Cadena SER - Radio Cartagena 3. Cadena COPE Cartagena All of these sites support ssl. If these stations are not remembered, it might be a problem with the application (FireFox?). Not all apps can remember stations. What about the shortwave?, I'd say, but you only use the unofficial apps. Regards & Good Nihght. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money."

Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [oS-EN] Trying to listen to internet radio stations Message-ID : Date & Time: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:53:17 +0100 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." has written: [...] CER> That's not the actual download URL of the audio stream. It is hidden. CER> I can click on it to "show radio profile" which opens CER> https://streema.com/radios/RNE_Radio_5 The https refers to http communications encrypted by the SSL/TLS protocol. MN> > If these stations are not remembered, it might be a problem with the MN> > application (FireFox?). CER> You are confusing two problems. The above is with CER> https://streema.com/radios/, that stoping a stream does not CER> really stop it. CER> The later is with the app "tuner", which (my guess) when a CER> station is marked as favourite doesn't update the actual audio CER> stream data profile in the saved mark. And again, there is no CER> way that I can see the actual data stream data, it is a secret. Sorry, I understand. CER> > CER> > Not all apps can remember stations. CER> > CER> > What about the shortwave?, I'd say, but you only use the unofficial CER> > apps. CER> Shortwave app? CER> Elesar:~ # zypper install shortwave CER> ... CER> Reading installed packages... CER> 'shortwave' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. CER> No provider of 'shortwave' found. CER> Resolving package dependencies... CER> Nothing to do. CER> Elesar:~ # CER> Elesar:~ # opi Shortwave CER> 1. shortwave CER> 2. shortwave-lang CER> Pick a number (0 to quit): 1 CER> You have selected package name: shortwave CER> 1. home:Dead_Mozay:GNOME:Apps ! | 2.0.1 | x86_64 CER> Pick a number (0 to quit): 0 CER> Elesar:~ # CER> That's a home repo, so not an official app. That's so. CER> I actually tried to install it, you can see my previous emails on it. No CER> luck. It coredumped. Still 2.0.1? 2.0.1 requires libhandy-0.0, but doesn't Leap 15.4 provide libhandy-0.0, I suspect? I am using 3.2.0 built by myself and it works fine. But you don't use this manner.... Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Today’s China is not the old China humiliated and bullied over 100 years ago. It is time for these people to wake up from their imperial dream." -- Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 4, 2022 --