On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 19:36 -0400, James Knott wrote:

Hans du Plooy wrote:

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Subtotal: $59.95 Shipping: $105.95

That's just sad, isn't it? The local Novell office is 10 minutes from my house, but their site doesn't provide for locals to order directly...

Shipping from where to where?

South Africa :-) Luckily there are other ways to get it locally. It just takes a little longer. Hans

On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 07:58 +0200, steve wrote:

what will SuSE 10.0 do that SuSE 10.0 RC1 doesn't?

The dual layer DVD with all the packages the CDs don't have. The manuals (I still find them very useful). Hans

Basil Chupin wrote:

Hans du Plooy wrote:

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Subtotal: $59.95 Shipping: $105.95

That's just sad, isn't it? The local Novell office is 10 minutes from my house, but their site doesn't provide for locals to order directly...

Hans

I can't even place the order! After entering all the details correctly I get a message "No error message found. (Error message 20002065-0)".

Maybe you're supposed to use Internet Explorer. ;-)

On Friday 30 September 2005 14:53, Basil Chupin wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Hans du Plooy wrote:

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Subtotal: $59.95 Shipping: $105.95

Something is wrong here! I can get it for 88 Australian dollars, plus 11 for express delivery. Colin

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That's just sad, isn't it? The local Novell office is 10 minutes from my house, but their site doesn't provide for locals to order directly...

Hans

I can't even place the order! After entering all the details correctly I get a message "No error message found. (Error message 20002065-0)".

Maybe you're supposed to use Internet Explorer. ;-)

Possibly, but I just installd the resurrected Mozilla Suite now called SEAMONKEY and lo and behold! I was able to place the order a few minutes ago (I was using Firefox, both the Linux and Windows versions prior to this).

Now to sit back and wait for the courier to knock on the door with the package.

Cheers.

-- Don't argue with an idiot, people may not see the difference.

Basil Chupin wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Hans du Plooy wrote:

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Subtotal: $59.95 Shipping: $105.95

That's just sad, isn't it? The local Novell office is 10 minutes from my house, but their site doesn't provide for locals to order directly...

Hans

I can't even place the order! After entering all the details correctly I get a message "No error message found. (Error message 20002065-0)".

Maybe you're supposed to use Internet Explorer. ;-)

Possibly, but I just installd the resurrected Mozilla Suite now called SEAMONKEY and lo and behold! I was able to place the order a few minutes ago (I was using Firefox, both the Linux and Windows versions prior to this).

Now to sit back and wait for the courier to knock on the door with the package.

Has it arrived yet? ;-)

James Knott wrote:

Basil Chupin wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Hans du Plooy wrote:

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Subtotal: $59.95 Shipping: $105.95

That's just sad, isn't it? The local Novell office is 10 minutes from my house, but their site doesn't provide for locals to order directly...

Hans

I can't even place the order! After entering all the details correctly I get a message "No error message found. (Error message 20002065-0)".

Maybe you're supposed to use Internet Explorer. ;-)

Possibly, but I just installd the resurrected Mozilla Suite now called SEAMONKEY and lo and behold! I was able to place the order a few minutes ago (I was using Firefox, both the Linux and Windows versions prior to this).

Now to sit back and wait for the courier to knock on the door with the package.

Has it arrived yet? ;-)

I heard a car pull up outside the house a while back but it was only my neighbour.... Any hour now - I can FEEL it. Cheers. -- Don't argue with an idiot, people may not see the difference.

Colin Carter wrote:

On Friday 30 September 2005 17:46, Susemail wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 September 2005 12:11, Hans du Plooy wrote:

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Subtotal: $59.95 Shipping: $105.95

That's just sad, isn't it? The local Novell office is 10 minutes from my house, but their site doesn't provide for locals to order directly...

Hans

Were are you? Jerome

Sydney, Australia. Colin

There you go again :-). The question was directed at Hans (who happens to live in South Africa). Cheers. -- Don't argue with an idiot, people may not see the difference.

Susemail wrote:

On Wednesday 28 September 2005 12:11, Hans du Plooy wrote:

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Subtotal: $59.95 Shipping: $105.95

That's just sad, isn't it? The local Novell office is 10 minutes from my house, but their site doesn't provide for locals to order directly...

Hans

Were are you? Jerome

Shipping to anywhere in the world is free except to Africa. That is if you order before the end of today. If you are in Africa you need to place the order, pay the $105.95 shipping and then write a nasty email to Novell about false advertising to get a refund. Surprisingly Novell knows about this but they are not fixing their website. At the end of the day it will be easier for me (living in South Africa) to wait for mid October and purchase it from a local supplier for about $95. The offer was made by Novell USA, Novell Africa (in Morningside, Johannesburg, South Africa) has no idea that the offer exists. Albert -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 2005/09/29

* Jose Thadeu Cavalcante [09-30-05 05:02]:

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How can I purchase if I live in Brazil?

?? Carrier Pigeon ?? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

On Friday 30 September 2005 16:09, Randall R Schulz wrote:

Yo, Pat Man,

On Friday 30 September 2005 05:50, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Jose Thadeu Cavalcante [09-30-05 05:02]:

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How can I purchase if I live in Brazil?

?? Carrier Pigeon ??

No way a carrier pigeon could carry a boxed software set.

It could be carried by an African swallow

Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 30 September 2005 16:09, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Yo, Pat Man,

On Friday 30 September 2005 05:50, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Jose Thadeu Cavalcante [09-30-05 05:02]:

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How can I purchase if I live in Brazil?

?? Carrier Pigeon ??

No way a carrier pigeon could carry a boxed software set.

It could be carried by an African swallow

I am confused. An African swallow is smaller than a pigeon. If the pigeon cannot carry the box then I doubt the African swallow will be able to. Unless I'm missing something? Like the :) after swallow... Albert -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 2005/09/29

On Friday 30 September 2005 16:20, Albert wrote:

I am confused. An African swallow is smaller than a pigeon. If the pigeon cannot carry the box then I doubt the African swallow will be able to.

How about if two swallows carried it on a string, tied to the dorsal guiding feathers

Unless I'm missing something? Like the :) after swallow...

If I remember correctly, the point was that the discussion was getting to be somewhat surreal, and slightly pointless

Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 30 September 2005 16:09, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Yo, Pat Man,

On Friday 30 September 2005 05:50, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Jose Thadeu Cavalcante [09-30-05 05:02]:

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How can I purchase if I live in Brazil? ?? Carrier Pigeon ?? No way a carrier pigeon could carry a boxed software set.

It could be carried by an African swallow

What about a penguin? ;-)

On Saturday 01 October 2005 00:49, Jerry Feldman wrote:

On Friday 30 September 2005 10:34 am, James Knott wrote:

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What about a penguin?  ;-);-)

Wonderful idea. Especially since the new Tux has found a way to sprout bigger wings :-);-)

We use grass hoppers in Australia, since they stand about 6'6" tall. Colin

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On Friday 30 September 2005 18:17, Colin Carter wrote:

On Saturday 01 October 2005 00:49, Jerry Feldman wrote:

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On Friday 30 September 2005 10:34 am, James Knott wrote:

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What about a penguin?  ;-);-)

Wonderful idea. Especially since the new Tux has found a way to sprout bigger wings :-);-)

We use grass hoppers in Australia, since they stand about 6'6" tall. Colin

Nonsense. You're thinking of a kangaroo, surely.

On Friday 30 September 2005 20:26, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 30 September 2005 20:19, steve wrote:

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We use grass hoppers in Australia, since they stand about 6'6" tall. Colin

Nonsense. You're thinking of a kangaroo, surely.

They hop in the grass, don't they?

It was the scale of the beast that I was worried about. Brits still try to be exclude all others by quoting dimensions which no one else understands. And driving on the wrong side of the road. And so causing accidents. I've never been in a yellow taxi. . .

But they're not quite as insane as the Swedes

Surely north americans must be more insane than Swedes on all counts. They all use crashintoshes don't they? Where I live, in Spain, 60% of the population is Norwegian. And they sit outside in the sun all day. Are norwegians Swedes?

On Saturday 01 October 2005 02:01, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Saturday 01 October 2005 01:50, steve wrote:

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Are norwegians Swedes?

Yes, but they won't admit it

I'll push them to admit it then. But why must they sit in the sun all day and drink so much? And then say how hot it is in Spain? Or maybe they're reffering to SuSE 10.0.

On Friday 30 September 2005 23:04, steve wrote:

On Friday 30 September 2005 20:26, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Friday 30 September 2005 20:19, steve wrote:

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We use grass hoppers in Australia, since they stand about 6'6" tall. Colin

Nonsense. You're thinking of a kangaroo, surely.

They hop in the grass, don't they?

And driving on the wrong side of the road. And so causing accidents.

What you mean it's the rest of the crazies that drive on the wrong side of the road . We got it Right the rest got it wrong .. :-) .... Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA

On Saturday 01 October 2005 04:19, steve wrote:

On Friday 30 September 2005 18:17, Colin Carter wrote:

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On Saturday 01 October 2005 00:49, Jerry Feldman wrote:

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On Friday 30 September 2005 10:34 am, James Knott wrote:

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What about a penguin?  ;-);-)

Wonderful idea. Especially since the new Tux has found a way to sprout bigger wings :-);-)

We use grass hoppers in Australia, since they stand about 6'6" tall. Colin

Nonsense. You're thinking of a kangaroo, surely.

I mean those big thingys what 'op across the grass :-)

On Saturday 01 October 2005 21:55, James Knott wrote:

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We use grass hoppers in Australia, since they stand about 6'6" tall. Colin

Nonsense. You're thinking of a kangaroo, surely.

I mean those big thingys what 'op across the grass :-)

Oh, you mean the Aussies, after they've had too much Foster's. ;-)

No, we don't drink Fosters - we export that stuff!

Colin Carter wrote:

On Saturday 01 October 2005 21:55, James Knott wrote:

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We use grass hoppers in Australia, since they stand about 6'6" tall. Colin Nonsense. You're thinking of a kangaroo, surely. I mean those big thingys what 'op across the grass :-) Oh, you mean the Aussies, after they've had too much Foster's. ;-)

No, we don't drink Fosters - we export that stuff!

I try to avoid it too. ;-)

On Friday 30 September 2005 14:50, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Jose Thadeu Cavalcante [09-30-05 05:02]:

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How can I purchase if I live in Brazil?

?? Carrier Pigeon ??

Nope. I don't agree. Carrier Pigeon is not a good way to ship. You can't purchase 10.0 anywhere outside USA. Unless you use Amazon. And they won't ship to countries they have never heard of. It's just so much hassle and extra cost it just isn't worth it anymore. Novell don't make any money from it anyway so why should they make it easy for you to buy it? Just wait for the ftp. Or use the rather excellent 10.0 you can download now. For free. But what do you need so urgently from 10.0 that isn't available in say, 9.3? Sorry. But Patrick's replies tend to inspire me;-) Steve.

On 9/30/05, steve wrote:

But what do you need so urgently from 10.0 that isn't available in say, 9.3?

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