On Tuesday 03 February 2004 01.09, Sven Burmeister wrote:

Anders Johansson schrieb:

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On Tuesday 03 February 2004 00.06, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Hi,

I read about search-folders but did not succeed to find a button and/or documentation on how to create one in kmail. Could you please give me a hint?

Folder->New Folder and select "search" from the "mailbox format" dropdown

Thanks!

Oh man, how is one supposed to find that? Is it not more user-friendly to simply put an entry into the context-menu of the top search-result folder (the one with the magnifying glass): add new search folder? Or at least make the new folder entry open a list with new mail folder and new search-folder.

I agree

Further, if I setup that folder how should I know that I have to search for a message in order to create the search criteria? Would it not be more user-friendly to have a context-menu-entry when right-clicking a search folder that states, set search criteria or something like that. Maybe even include the criteria-dialogue already when creating a new search-folder.

I agree

In the search dialogue it then says, search and close but not assign to search folder, not very obvious to me.

Well, it says "search folder name". Maybe there should be a verb in there somewhere

I really love this feature but it is definitely too hidden for new/normal users. What do others think of that?

I agree completely, in fact I had no idea it existed until your mail prompted me to look for it :) But this is definitely the wrong forum, I doubt very much any kde devels are reading this list. You should post the suggestions on the kde-devel mailing list, or better yet in the kde bugzilla

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 08.45, Jerome Lyles wrote:

I don't have search in my "mailbox format", only mbox and maildir. Anyone know why? Jerome

From: Jerome Lyles User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 You're still on kde 3.1.x, this is apparently a new feature in kde 3.2

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 09.43, Sven Burmeister wrote:

I selected <status> in the first columen equals in the second and new or unread in the third but it did not update after new mail arrived.

I get it updated, but I have serious trouble getting it to understand which folder I want to put the search result in. I keep getting it in "Last Search". You're right that it's not very user friendly and I'm still not sure what a "new" mail is (as opposed to an 'unread')

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 09.45, Sven Burmeister wrote:

Anders Johansson schrieb:

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On Tuesday 03 February 2004 08.45, Jerome Lyles wrote:

From: Jerome Lyles User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4

and I send my email with mozilla.

Yes Sven, and your name isn't Jerome either, is it?

Anders Johansson schrieb:

On Tuesday 03 February 2004 01.09, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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I really love this feature but it is definitely too hidden for new/normal users. What do others think of that?

I agree completely, in fact I had no idea it existed until your mail prompted me to look for it :)

But this is definitely the wrong forum, I doubt very much any kde devels are reading this list. You should post the suggestions on the kde-devel mailing list, or better yet in the kde bugzilla

Moin! I know that, however I like to check first with other people whether I am the only one interested in a change/that bug. One more thing. Do you know and could you check whether search folders are supposed to update on their own? What sense would it make, to have a static search result in a folder, or that the way it tis supposed to work? I thought it would be the way that everytime kmail collects mail it automatically updates the search results, i.e. a search folder shows only new mail but updates its contents after new mail has arrived. That does not happen with my search folder. I'll file the bugs, if somebody can confirm this. Thanks, Sven

Anders Johansson schrieb:

How do you define a "new" mail? I know it says "new" in the dropdown list, but I'm not exactly sure what a "new" mail is

Hi, well according to my definition, new means what is normaly marked in read. However creating a search-folder for that gives me a lot more than tha, even read mails. Further even if I click on a new message, it does not disappear from the search-folder, after I read it and selected another message. Same is for unrerad message, it also displays all kinds of message and does not even mark them as read, when they had the status unread and then get read. I guess I 'll have ti file another bug report. If you want to vote on the user-friednliness issue: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74085 Sven