On 27/05/2019 03.47, James Knott wrote:

Found it.  I had to manually go to the repository.

On 2019-05-26 9:36 p.m., James Knott wrote:

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In 15.0 and earlier, I used Aramok for my music player.  However, I can't seem to find it.  Where is it?

There was a thread about it about a month ago. It is in risk of disappearance. [opensuse-kde] KDE4/Qt4 removal from openSUSE Factory Amarok uses that, has not been ported to KF5/Qt5, so it will disappear eventually. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 05/27/2019 05:43 AM, Rodney Baker wrote:

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Amarok uses that, has not been ported to KF5/Qt5, so it will disappear eventually. Amarok version 2.9.70 is now built against KF5 (available for TW in KDE Extra), so I'm guessing that it will be around for a while longer once that hits the release repos.

2.9.70 comes with 15.1. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-27 03:59 PM, Simon Lees wrote:

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Amarok version 2.9.70 is now built against KF5 (available for TW in KDE Extra), so I'm guessing that it will be around for a while longer once that hits the release repos.

This is very good news IMHO - I tried Clementine and didn't really like it.

You may want to remember to poke the maintainer to make sure the Qt5 version goes back into Leap 15.2 once its set up.

All we have to do now is get it to work.  I can find my music etc., but it won't play it.  :-( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-27 08:06 PM, Rodney Baker wrote:

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All we have to do now is get it to work. I can find my music etc., but it won't play it. :-( Not sure why - working for me here on TW...except that the equalizer function has no effect (but that's hardly a showstopper).

I tried starting it from the command line and got the following:

amarok

** AMAROK WAS STARTED IN NORMAL MODE. IF YOU WANT TO SEE DEBUGGING INFORMATION, PLEASE USE: ** ** amarok --debug                                                                           ** ********************************************************************************************** QObject::connect: invalid null parameter QObject::connect: invalid null parameter QObject::connect: invalid null parameter QObject::connect: invalid null parameter QObject::connect: invalid null parameter QWidget::insertAction: Attempt to insert null action QWidget::insertAction: Attempt to insert null action Could not parse stylesheet of object 0x5603e0703aa0 Could not parse stylesheet of object 0x5603e0703aa0 Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing. ** Message: PackageKit: xid = 117440524 ** Message: PackageKit: desktop_id = (null) ** Message: PackageKit: Codec nice name: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder ** Message: PackageKit: field is: mpegaudioversion, type: gint ** Message: PackageKit: field is: mpegversion, type: gint ** Message: PackageKit: field is: layer, type: gint ** Message: PackageKit: structure: gstreamer1(decoder-audio/mpeg)(mpegaudioversion=1)(mpegversion=1)(layer=3)()(64bit) ** Message: PackageKit: Did not install codec: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 28/05/2019 19.44, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 05/28/2019 09:51 AM, James Knott wrote:

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GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files

looks like a missing dependency issue.

Or no-recommends result. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Op 28-05-19 om 20:49 schreef James Knott:

On 2019-05-28 02:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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looks like a missing dependency issue.

Or no-recommends result.

Either way, it doesn't work and I don't know how to fix it.

Be sure to check: * Amarok -> Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Playback -> Configure Phonon * installed codecs (gstreamer-plugins: bad & ugly) all from packman Harrie -- Harrie Baken | Tekstbureau TekstBaken (web)tekst | redactie & correctie | websiteoptimalisatie https://www.tekstbaken.nl/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 28/05/2019 21.24, James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-28 03:09 PM, Harrie Baken wrote:

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Op 28-05-19 om 20:49 schreef James Knott:

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On 2019-05-28 02:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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looks like a missing dependency issue.

Or no-recommends result.

Either way, it doesn't work and I don't know how to fix it.

Be sure to check:

* Amarok -> Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Playback -> Configure Phonon

* installed codecs (gstreamer-plugins: bad & ugly) all from packman

Added packman repo, tried reinstalling Amarok and still doesn't work. Gstreamer is installed.

Make sure in YaST that "install recommends" is enabled (dependencies menu). Then select the packman repo, and click on "Switch system packages to the versions in this repository". Proceed. On exit, run "zypper ps" to find out what you have to kill, or relogin, or reboot. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 4:54:18 ACST James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-28 03:09 PM, Harrie Baken wrote:

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Op 28-05-19 om 20:49 schreef James Knott:

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On 2019-05-28 02:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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looks like a missing dependency issue.

Or no-recommends result.

Either way, it doesn't work and I don't know how to fix it.

Be sure to check:

* Amarok -> Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Playback -> Configure Phonon

* installed codecs (gstreamer-plugins: bad & ugly) all from packman

Added packman repo, tried reinstalling Amarok and still doesn't work. Gstreamer is installed.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but it shouldn't be so hard to get a package working. I have been using Amarok for years and never that this problem.

Agreed. I'm using the VLC backend for Phonon here instead of Gstreamer, and it "just works". I don't know if that's relevant or not. You can check which backend is being used by KDE by default using "System Settings -> Multimedia -> Audio & Video -> Backend. If you can, try selecting the VLC backend and test. (If it is not installed, you might try installing the VLC backend as a test. You can have both installed and set the preference through the above screen). Not suggesting that will fix it necessarily, but it seems like a key point of difference. YMMV. BTW, I just realised that the method suggested by Carlos above takes you to exactly the same setup screen, so either way is valid. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au CCNA #CSCO12880208 ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-28 03:09 PM, Harrie Baken wrote:

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Op 28-05-19 om 20:49 schreef James Knott:

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On 2019-05-28 02:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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looks like a missing dependency issue.

Or no-recommends result.

Either way, it doesn't work and I don't know how to fix it.

Be sure to check:

* Amarok -> Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Playback -> Configure Phonon

* installed codecs (gstreamer-plugins: bad & ugly) all from packman

Added packman repo, tried reinstalling Amarok and still doesn't work. Gstreamer is installed.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but it shouldn't be so hard to get a package working.  I have been using Amarok for years and never that this problem.

I'll be do the same exercise this afternoon, we'll see how I fare. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.4°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-29 10:00 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

Installation went fine - zypper in amarok, done. I can't get it to play a CD though. See attached.

It works for me. BTW, this is the first time I ever played a CD in Amarok.  I normally just play MP3s and OGGs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-29 10:43 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

That sounds good. Did you have to do anything special? By opening the audio cd device, I had expected to get an automatic playlist, then auto-start at track1.

No, I just selected the CD and started playing from it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-29 12:05 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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No, I just selected the CD and started playing from it. Must be operator error. I have amarok running, icon in the tray. I pop in a CD, nothing happens. Before installing amarok it would ask if I wanted open with vlc or file manager. Then I open amarok, click "Play media" and select the audio cd device.

That's what happened here too.  The same choices popped up and I ignored them.  I had to go into Amarok to play the CD.  However, as I've never used it to play a CD before, I have no previous experience to compare with. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 29/05/2019 18.17, Per Jessen wrote:

James Knott wrote:

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On 2019-05-29 12:05 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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No, I just selected the CD and started playing from it. Must be operator error. I have amarok running, icon in the tray. I pop in a CD, nothing happens. Before installing amarok it would ask if I wanted open with vlc or file manager. Then I open amarok, click "Play media" and select the audio cd device.

That's what happened here too.  The same choices popped up and I ignored them.  I had to go into Amarok to play the CD.  However, as I've never used it to play a CD before, I have no previous experience to compare with.

Ditto - I used to use Kaffeine for CDs. Well, when it works for you, it's obviously my fat fingers getting in the way.

XFCE here, 15.0. I put an audio CD in the tray, nothing happens. It is possible that I set preferences to do nothing, I don't remember. I don't want to play CDs, I rip them first. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 30/05/2019 15.04, Per Jessen wrote:

Per Jessen wrote:

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Per Jessen wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Perhaps I'm missing something, but it shouldn't be so hard to get a package working.  I have been using Amarok for years and never that this problem.

I'll be do the same exercise this afternoon, we'll see how I fare.

Installation went fine - zypper in amarok, done. I can't get it to play a CD though. See attached.

I'm switching to Kaffeine, works out of the box. Although I'd like to figure out how to get an automatic playlist when a CD is inserted.

They are very different things. Kaffeine is a just a player. Amarok does more: the idea is to have a collection of cds or pieces in the hard disk, then it lists them, finds information about them, plays them. A media archive manager, a juke box... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 30/05/2019 22.45, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 30/05/2019 15.04, Per Jessen wrote:

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Per Jessen wrote:

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Per Jessen wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Perhaps I'm missing something, but it shouldn't be so hard to get a package working.  I have been using Amarok for years and never that this problem.

I'll be do the same exercise this afternoon, we'll see how I fare.

Installation went fine - zypper in amarok, done. I can't get it to play a CD though. See attached.

I'm switching to Kaffeine, works out of the box. Although I'd like to figure out how to get an automatic playlist when a CD is inserted.

They are very different things. Kaffeine is a just a player.

I don't care. I just want to play my CDs. Amarok has sofar shown to be incapable of that.

If you just want to play CDs, Amarok is not the right tool for you. I just tried to play a CD on 15.0, and it failed (I tried manual play), but wrote no error: it simply failed. I guess it is Bugzilla time.

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Amarok does more:

s/more/less/ - Amarok very specifically does not play my CD :-)

Well, yes, but I never use Amarok to just play a CD. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Op 30-05-19 om 22:45 schreef Per Jessen:

I don't care. I just want to play my CDs. Amarok has sofar shown to be incapable of that.

I seldom use my cd-player for music, because of the noise it makes. (I rip them all and play flac.) But it does work. (Leap 15.0) https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47968391178_c4984790cf_b.jpg Harrie -- Met vriendelijke groet, Harrie Baken | Tekstbureau TekstBaken https://www.tekstbaken.nl/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op vrijdag 31 mei 2019 00:33:21 CEST schreef Harrie Baken:

Op 31-05-19 om 00:12 schreef Harrie Baken:

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Op 30-05-19 om 22:45 schreef Per Jessen:

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I don't care. I just want to play my CDs. Amarok has sofar shown to be incapable of that.

I seldom use my cd-player for music, because of the noise it makes. (I rip them all and play flac.) But it does work. (Leap 15.0)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47968391178_c4984790cf_b.jpg

Er.. I'm not a Flickr champion, maybe that link should be: https://flic.kr/p/2g5PnWL Message is clear. Same here, I rip every single CD to ( if possible high res ) flac and play that.

-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 28/05/2019 21.24, James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-28 03:09 PM, Harrie Baken wrote:

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Op 28-05-19 om 20:49 schreef James Knott:

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On 2019-05-28 02:28 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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looks like a missing dependency issue.

Or no-recommends result.

Either way, it doesn't work and I don't know how to fix it.

Be sure to check:

* Amarok -> Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Playback -> Configure Phonon

* installed codecs (gstreamer-plugins: bad & ugly) all from packman

Added packman repo, tried reinstalling Amarok and still doesn't work. Gstreamer is installed.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but it shouldn't be so hard to get a package working.  I have been using Amarok for years and never that this problem.

You said on another thread:

The only thing I've installed that didn't come from the 15.1 distro was Amarok, which was installed with one click install.

I consider One Click as a source of problems (it just happens), so let's investigate. Please, do: zypper lr --details > somefile.txt then attach that file to the reply email. Don't paste. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 30/05/2019 03.04, James Knott wrote:

Attached.  I've also sent it to directly, as I don't believe attachments survive the list.

Yes, text attachments do :-) I don't see big problems, but three things to correct. Repo number 2 and 15 are the same, so remove number 2, "openSUSE:Leap:15.1:Update". Repo number 4 and 6 are the same (packman). Remove one. If you are curious, do: ls -ltr /etc/zypp/repos.d/ And see if some of the dates correspond to the day you used one click. Then there is a suspicious one, but may be intentional: "KDE:Extra". Do you really need it? I see it contains Amarok.But the standard OSS repo also contain Amarok, so you are probably using a different version than the people in the thread, and might explain why it works for others and not for you. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 30/05/2019 10.43, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I see it contains Amarok.But the standard OSS repo also contain Amarok, so you are probably using a different version than the people in the thread, and might explain why it works for others and not for you.

For comparison, this is what I'm using, from a completely standard install:

Version : 2.9.0 Release : lp151.3.5

Amarok from kde:extra:

Version : 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf Release : lp151.114.1

Yes, different versions. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 31/05/2019 14.48, James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-30 04:50 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Amarok from kde:extra:

Version : 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf Release : lp151.114.1

Where is the non git version available?  I wound up with it by searching on amarok repository opensuse 15.1, which provided this: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=KDE%3AExtra&package=amarok

In the default OSS repo. Ie, no repo search needed. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-31 08:50 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Where is the non git version available?  I wound up with it by searching on amarok repository opensuse 15.1, which provided this:

https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=KDE%3AExtra&package=amarok In the default OSS repo. Ie, no repo search needed.

Then why did I have to search.  I first went to Yast Software Management, searched there and found nothing.

Some issue with your repo config maybe? I did, as always, 'zypper se amarok', then zypper in amarok. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (21.7°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-31 09:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Then why did I have to search.  I first went to Yast Software Management, searched there and found nothing. Some issue with your repo config maybe? I did, as always, 'zypper se amarok', then zypper in amarok.

This was on a fresh install of 15.1.  The old system was wiped during the install, so there should have been nothing left over from it.

Weird, exactly the same here. Your search in YaST should have been no different to searching with zypper. If you search now, do you find amarok? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (22.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [05-31-19 11:24]:

On 2019-05-31 11:04 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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This was on a fresh install of 15.1.  The old system was wiped during the install, so there should have been nothing left over from it. Weird, exactly the same here. Your search in YaST should have been no different to searching with zypper. If you search now, do you find amarok?

If I do a search now, I'll find the version already installed.  However, it previously showed git, after I used the one click install.

zypper -v se -s amarok please do it and then report -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [05-31-19 11:41]:

On 2019-05-31 11:26 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* James Knott [05-31-19 11:24]:

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On 2019-05-31 11:04 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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This was on a fresh install of 15.1.  The old system was wiped during the install, so there should have been nothing left over from it. Weird, exactly the same here. Your search in YaST should have been no different to searching with zypper. If you search now, do you find amarok? If I do a search now, I'll find the version already installed.  However, it previously showed git, after I used the one click install. zypper -v se -s amarok

please do it and then report

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zypper -v se -s amarok Verbosity: 2 Non-option program arguments: 'amarok' Initializing Target Retrieving: repomd.xml ...............................................[done (1.7 KiB/s)] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...........................................................[done] Retrieving: media ................................................................[done] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...............................................[done (3.0 KiB/s)] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...........................................................[done] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...............................................[done (1.3 KiB/s)] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...........................................................[done] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...............................................[done (3.8 KiB/s)] Retrieving: media ................................................................[done] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...........................................................[done] Retrieving: media ................................................................[done] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...........................................................[done] Retrieving: repomd.xml ...........................................................[done] Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No

S  | Name               | Type       | Version                                          | Arch   | Repository      ---+--------------------+------------+--------------------------------------------------+--------+----------------- v  | amarok             | package    | 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf-lp151.114.1 | x86_64 | KDE:Extra       i+ | amarok             | package    | 2.9.0-2.5                                        | x86_64 | openSUSE:Factory v  | amarok             | package    | 2.9.0-lp151.3.5                                  | x86_64 | Main Repository v  | amarok             | package    | 2.9.0-2.5                                        | i586   | openSUSE:Factory    | amarok             | srcpackage | 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf-lp151.114.1 | noarch | KDE:Extra          | amarok-debuginfo   | package    | 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf-lp151.114.1 | x86_64 | KDE:Extra          | amarok-debugsource | package    | 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf-lp151.114.1 | x86_64 | KDE:Extra       v  | amarok-lang        | package    | 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf-lp151.114.1 | noarch | KDE:Extra       i  | amarok-lang        | package    | 2.9.0-2.5                                        | noarch | openSUSE:Factory v  | amarok-lang        | package    | 2.9.0-lp151.3.5                                  | noarch | Main Repository

so amarok exists in "Main Repository" as Per suggested. why do you have "Factory" repositories? they are not Leap 15.1 and are mostly/usually not compatible. they are not Leap 15.1 just as Tumbleweed and Leap 14 and debian are not. you cause yourself much problems by not following procedure. your "installed" amarok package is not intended for Leap 15.1 and is not from git and/or KDE:Extra as you described. it is from "Factory". openSUSE:Factory /= Leap 15.1 openSUSE:Factory /= Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory /= git -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [05-31-19 12:08]:

On 2019-05-31 11:58 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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so amarok exists in "Main Repository" as Per suggested.

why do you have "Factory" repositories? they are not Leap 15.1 and are mostly/usually not compatible. they are not Leap 15.1 just as Tumbleweed and Leap 14 and debian are not. you cause yourself much problems by not following procedure.

your "installed" amarok package is not intended for Leap 15.1 and is not from git and/or KDE:Extra as you described. it is from "Factory".

openSUSE:Factory /= Leap 15.1 openSUSE:Factory /= Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory /= git

It appears that factory came in with the Tumbleweed version.  I have had both git and Tumbleweed installed, at one time or other, trying to find the appropriate version.  I would *REALLY* like to know where to find it, as no matter what I do, I wind up with the wrong version.

Again, this is on a fresh install of 15.1 and I have not manually added repos.  If one's in the list, it's because something I installed added it.

guessing, but you have probably installed and gained the repos by using the "one-click-install" that others dislike and paid no attention the the instructions the "one-click-install" provides, one of which is to add the repo, or not. so, yes, it is something you *decided* to have installed, ie: was manually installed. you made that choice, either by not reading or ignoring. you need to remove the repos which do not match your openSUSE version and probably KDE:Extra since you *apparently* should not be using bleeding-edge versions. uninstall amarok. then search for amarok and install the version meant for your Leap 15.1. yast should be sufficient for your purposes. I prefer zypper for software management. following instructions and being precise are *necessary*. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-31 12:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

following instructions and being precise are *necessary*.

Thank you for being insulting. I have been following instructions.  In the past, it was in Yast.  It wasn't this time and that was the first thing I checked. Searching on what should have been the correct terms got me the git version The link from Per was the Tumbleweed version After more searching, I found http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/. After digging down, I found this link, which I hope is the correct one: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/x86_64/, where I found the rpm Now, from the top, this was a fresh install and a Yast search did not provide the app. A search on the correct terms gave me the git version. (one click) Per gave me the Tumbleweed version. (one click) I did not manually add any repo. The repo I found provided an RPM, which installed with Install/Remove software.  Software management does not show any mention of git or Tumbleweed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-31 01:51 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 31/05/2019 19.15, James Knott wrote:

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On 2019-05-31 12:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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following instructions and being precise are *necessary*. Thank you for being insulting.

I have been following instructions.  In the past, it was in Yast.  It wasn't this time and that was the first thing I checked. Searching on what should have been the correct terms got me the git version The link from Per was the Tumbleweed version After more searching, I found http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/. That is the OSS repo, and you should already have it.

Please, do

zypper lr --details > somefile.txt

and attach the file to your reply.

That repo may have been there, but it didn't seem to work, when I first tried to install amarok. # cat somefile.txt #  | Alias                               | Name                               | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                         | Service ---+-------------------------------------+------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------  1 | http-download.opensuse.org-61339ab9 | KDE:Extra                          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                    |         2 | http-download.opensuse.org-c742cdaf | openSUSE:Leap:15.1:Update          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.1/oss/                                          |         3 | http-opensuse-guide.org-cb6221b0    | libdvdcss repository               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                                          |         4 | http-packman.inode.at-73317d9b      | Packman Repository                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                                            |         5 | openSUSE-Leap-15.1-1                | openSUSE-Leap-15.1-1               | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | hd:/?device=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Kingston_DataTraveler_G3_001CC07CEEFFFBA0C9262409-0:0-part2 |         6 | packman                             | packman                            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   90     | rpm-md | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/                          |         7 | repo-debug                          | Debug Repository                   | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/                         |         8 | repo-debug-non-oss                  | Debug Repository (Non-OSS)         | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/                     |         9 | repo-debug-update                   | Update Repository (Debug)          | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/15.1/oss/                                    |        10 | repo-debug-update-non-oss           | Update Repository (Debug, Non-OSS) | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/15.1/non-oss/                                |        11 | repo-non-oss                        | Non-OSS Repository                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/                           |        12 | repo-oss                            | Main Repository                    | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/                               |        13 | repo-source                         | Source Repository                  | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/oss/                        |        14 | repo-source-non-oss                 | Source Repository (Non-OSS)        | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/leap/15.1/repo/non-oss/                    |        15 | repo-update                         | Main Update Repository             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.1/oss                                           |        16 | repo-update-non-oss                 | Update Repository (Non-Oss)        | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.1/non-oss/                        -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 31/05/2019 19.57, James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-31 01:51 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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and attach the file to your reply.

Sorry, I pasted the text previously. Now attached.

Now you see why I wanted it attached :-) Repo #1 is "KDE:Extra" and it is a source of problems at this point, as it provides the git version of amarok. I would remove or disable. Or give it a higher numeric priority, like 105. Duplicated: #4 Packman Repository #6 packman remove one. #2 openSUSE:Leap:15.1:Update #15 Main Update Repository Remove #2 There are no tumbleweed repositories in this list. You might have installed packages from there, but not the repos. Once you do that, we can try find out why zypper does not find the oss repo version. zypper -v se -s amarok -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 31/05/2019 20.31, James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-31 02:26 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Once you do that, we can try find out why zypper does not find the oss repo version.

zypper -v se -s amarok

Extra repos removed.

# zypper -v se -s amarok ... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No

S  | Name        | Type    | Version         | Arch   | Repository       ---+-------------+---------+-----------------+--------+------------------ i+ | amarok      | package | 2.9.0-lp151.3.5 | x86_64 | Main Repository  i  | amarok-lang | package | 2.9.0-2.5       | noarch | (System Packages) v  | amarok-lang | package | 2.9.0-lp151.3.5 | noarch | Main Repository

Well, now you have it! -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 2019-05-31 01:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

One Click. It easily adds repos, and as we said, it can be the wrong ones. We told you so days ago.

That's the point I've been making.  I wind up on one click sites that install the wrong thing.  Is there a correct one click version?  Regardless, I found a repo that appears to have the correct version.  At least it hasn't caused my computer to crash and burn yet.  ;-) I have absolutely no idea as to why yast didn't find Amarok initially.  It's too late now, short of reinstalling, to get back to that point.  I'll have to see what happens when I update my notebook computer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Carlos E. R. [05-31-19 14:30]:

On 31/05/2019 19.52, James Knott wrote:

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On 2019-05-31 01:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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One Click. It easily adds repos, and as we said, it can be the wrong ones. We told you so days ago.

That's the point I've been making.  I wind up on one click sites that install the wrong thing.  Is there a correct one click version?

Just don't use one click. It is a source of problems.

then one should also not use yast as one can screw up things with it too. your logic is severly lacking. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, 31 May 2019 19:48:14 +0200 "Carlos E. R." wrote:

One Click. It easily adds repos, and as we said, it can be the wrong ones. We told you so days ago.

Do you know if there is a bug report for this behaviour? It is clearly undesirable (maybe wrong) so it should be bug-reported. If there isn't one already then somebody who understands it and can reproduce it should report it. (I don't use 1-click install myself). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Dave Howorth [05-31-19 14:38]:

On Fri, 31 May 2019 19:48:14 +0200 "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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One Click. It easily adds repos, and as we said, it can be the wrong ones. We told you so days ago.

Do you know if there is a bug report for this behaviour? It is clearly undesirable (maybe wrong) so it should be bug-reported. If there isn't one already then somebody who understands it and can reproduce it should report it. (I don't use 1-click install myself).

why bug-report something that is doing what you tell it to? an app is not buggy becasue one does not pay attention to what they are doing or does not follow instructions. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [05-31-19 08:49]:

On 2019-05-30 04:50 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Amarok from kde:extra:

Version : 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf Release : lp151.114.1

Where is the non git version available?  I wound up with it by searching on amarok repository opensuse 15.1, which provided this: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=KDE%3AExtra&package=amarok

http://software.opensuse.org/search https://software.opensuse.org/package/amarok?search_term=amarok but the git version is usually fine and newer/more up-to-date than the general distro version. but may contain small problems. relate git version to development version. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [05-31-19 09:13]:

On 2019-05-31 08:55 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Where is the non git version available?  I wound up with it by searching on amarok repository opensuse 15.1, which provided this: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=KDE%3AExtra&package=amarok http://software.opensuse.org/search https://software.opensuse.org/package/amarok?search_term=amarok

but the git version is usually fine and newer/more up-to-date than the general distro version. but may contain small problems. relate git version to development version.

Those are for the Tumbleweed version.  I'm on Leap 15.0.

no, they are not. but you must expend a small amount of effort besides just declaring it missing. choose your desired version, Leap 15.0. it is not rocket science, it is linux. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-31 10:25 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Patrick Shanahan [05-31-19 10:00]:

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* James Knott [05-31-19 09:13]:

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On 2019-05-31 08:55 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Where is the non git version available?  I wound up with it by searching on amarok repository opensuse 15.1, which provided this: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=KDE%3AExtra&package=amarok http://software.opensuse.org/search https://software.opensuse.org/package/amarok?search_term=amarok

but the git version is usually fine and newer/more up-to-date than the general distro version. but may contain small problems. relate git version to development version. Those are for the Tumbleweed version.  I'm on Leap 15.0.

no, they are not. but you must expend a small amount of effort besides just declaring it missing. choose your desired version, Leap 15.0. or maybe it is Leap 15.1 as you relate in a later post ????

That was a typo, when I said 15.0.  I had previously been on 15.0 and did a fresh install of 15.1. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-05-31 11:07 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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That was a typo, when I said 15.0.  I had previously been on 15.0 and did a fresh install of 15.1. it REALLY does make a difference.

Yes I know and as I said it was a typo in that message.  I did not download the 15.0 version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [05-31-19 10:35]:

On 2019-05-31 09:58 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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but the git version is usually fine and newer/more up-to-date than the general distro version. but may contain small problems. relate git version to development version. Those are for the Tumbleweed version.  I'm on Leap 15.0. no, they are not. but you must expend a small amount of effort besides just declaring it missing. choose your desired version, Leap 15.0.

it is not rocket science, it is linux.

Here's what the page you link to shows:

"Media Player for KDE

Amarok is a media player for all kinds of media. This includes MP3, Ogg Vorbis, audio CDs, podcasts and streams. Play lists can be stored in .m3u or .pls files.

    Version 2.9.0 Size 5.81 MB openSUSE Tumbleweed"

Unless I'm misreading that, it says Tumbleweed.  On the other hand, the link I provided gives a choice of distro, but provided the git version.

Regardless, I installed that "Tumbleweed" one and it appears to be OK so far, in that those annoying popups are gone.  I'll have to see if it plays without stopping on it's own .

and it will probably cause you problems later as it is not for your chosen openSUSE version. you have been here quite a long time and *really* should know better. you might as well install a version for debian. searching for amarok on http://software.opensuse.org/search FOR YOUR CHOSEN openSUSE VERSION will supply you with the correct path and the opportunity to do a correct "one-click-install". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [05-31-19 11:16]:

On 2019-05-31 11:06 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Regardless, I installed that "Tumbleweed" one and it appears to be OK so far, in that those annoying popups are gone.  I'll have to see if it plays without stopping on it's own . and it will probably cause you problems later as it is not for your chosen openSUSE version. you have been here quite a long time and *really* should know better. you might as well install a version for debian.

searching for amarok on http://software.opensuse.org/search FOR YOUR CHOSEN openSUSE VERSION will supply you with the correct path and the opportunity to do a correct "one-click-install".

As I said earlier, that link provides the Tumbleweed version, with no option to select other.

This sort of thing shouldn't be happening.

all kinds of thing happen when you fail to properly utilize the applications: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20190531_111812.png http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20190531_112018.png -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 31/05/2019 17.26, James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-31 11:21 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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This sort of thing shouldn't be happening. all kinds of thing happen when you fail to properly utilize the applications: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20190531_111812.png http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20190531_112018.png

Pardon me for being stupid, but how did I fail to properly utilize the application, when I entered amarok in that search box???  On top of that, the other link you provided, the one directly to the app produced the same results.  When I do that, I still get:

"Version 2.9.0 Size 5.81 MB openSUSE Tumbleweed"

Now either I'm incredibly stupid or that link will get me the Tumbleweed version.  Which is it???

https://software.opensuse.org/package/amarok See photo: http://susepaste.org/98049451 Do you see "official release"? It means that it is already in the default repository set. You do not need to use one click nor add any repo. The one you installed the other day is below, under "show experimental packages": -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 31/05/2019 20.26, James Knott wrote:

On 2019-05-31 02:13 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

I do not get what you see.  I once again, get the Tumbleweed version.  I clicked on that link and copied and pasted the text from the page your link takes me too.

Look at the search bar. At the left of the search bard, what does it say? It should say "openSUSE Leap 15.1" or "All distributions". Does it say "Tumbleweed"? Click and change it.

I have attached the screen capture of what I see in that page.  I am sending a copy of this screen capture directly to you and Per Jessen, so you can see for yourself.  Notice the URL in that image is what you sent me, yet we get different sites.

Ah. Click on the button below "show amarok for other distributions". Et voilá! Next time, do: pngquant Screenshot_20190531_142003.png Produces a much smaller png file. Post or upload that one instead. pngquant should be in the standard oss repo too. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 2019-06-02 01:15 PM, Rodney Baker wrote:

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but the git version is usually fine and newer/more up-to-date than the general distro version. but may contain small problems. relate git version to development version. Yes, and in this case the git version is based on KDE Frameworks 5.58, whereas version 2.9.0 in the Main repo is still based on KDE 4.14, and will be dropped with support for KDE4 libraries (recently being discussed on the Factory list).

Well, I hope they maintain it, as it's an essential app!  ;-) (currently listing to Gerry Rafferty - Right Down The Line) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Carlos E. R. [06-02-19 13:30]:

On 02/06/2019 19.15, Rodney Baker wrote:

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On Friday, 31 May 2019 22:25:09 ACST Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* James Knott [05-31-19 08:49]:

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On 2019-05-30 04:50 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Amarok from kde:extra:

Version : 2.9.70git.20190510T121601~fc370bbebf Release : lp151.114.1

Where is the non git version available? I wound up with it by searching on amarok repository opensuse 15.1, which provided this: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=KDE%3AExtra&package=am arok http://software.opensuse.org/search https://software.opensuse.org/package/amarok?search_term=amarok

but the git version is usually fine and newer/more up-to-date than the general distro version. but may contain small problems. relate git version to development version.

Yes, and in this case the git version is based on KDE Frameworks 5.58, whereas version 2.9.0 in the Main repo is still based on KDE 4.14, and will be dropped with support for KDE4 libraries (recently being discussed on the Factory list).

Sure. But that is of no consequence for Leap. At that point, the entire Leap will have to switch. Hopefully that should happen at the release of 15.2 or 15.3, so be thoroughly tested.

it is being tested and utilized in Tw, long before it will be in Leap XXX. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 05/27/2019 05:24 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

There was a thread about it about a month ago. It is in risk of disappearance.

[opensuse-kde] KDE4/Qt4 removal from openSUSE Factory

Amarok uses that, has not been ported to KF5/Qt5, so it will disappear eventually.

Well, hopefully there'll be a suitable replacement.  That's an app I use a lot! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org