I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection. Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network. Thank you in advance for your help. Maura
Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Maura -- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address> This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines. I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ? Thank you very much, maura On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote:
Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Maura -- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
Just dl the vnc-viewer on the windows box and set in Yast2 that you want remote admin on. Then they just need your ip so in vnc they put <ip>:1, thats it. Also for ssh use putty on the windows box. Just stuff the word putty in google On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote:
Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Maura -- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
-- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ? Thank you in advance for your assistance. regards, maura Matt T. Duval wrote:
Just dl the vnc-viewer on the windows box and set in Yast2 that you want remote admin on. Then they just need your ip so in vnc they put <ip>:1, thats it. Also for ssh use putty on the windows box. Just stuff the word putty in google
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote:
Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Maura
-- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 1:15 am, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
You could install cygwin on the XP box and then run the sshd deamon. That would enable you to use scp to transfer files. http://www.cygwin.com/ Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.5-7.108-default x86_64
Thank you. As it's advertised at a ".com" site I guess it's not for free, is it ? As a graduate student I do appreciate free and beta s/w packages... Regards, maura Scott Leighton wrote:
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 1:15 am, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
You could install cygwin on the XP box and then run the sshd deamon. That would enable you to use scp to transfer files.
Scott
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 1:52 am, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Thank you. As it's advertised at a ".com" site I guess it's not for free, is it ?
It's free, did you visit the site? GPL.
As a graduate student I do appreciate free and beta s/w packages...
Cygwin's not beta, it's been around for a long time. Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.5-7.108-default x86_64
Maura, On Wednesday 22 September 2004 01:52, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Thank you. As it's advertised at a ".com" site I guess it's not for free, is it ? As a graduate student I do appreciate free and beta s/w packages...
That's not a valid assumption in general and is not at all true in this case. Cygwin is truly the next best thing to a real Linux or Unix + Gnu Tools system for those who must run Windows. It comprehensive and mature and they've done an outstanding job at creating a nearly seamless integration of Unix / Linux API and Gnu Tools with the Windows operating system. And it's free ($) and open source. RedHat owns the copyright on the Cygwin DLL that is the heart of the emulation. The vast majority of the software that runs in that environment bears an open source license such as GPL or LGPL.
Regards, maura
Randall Schulz -- Without Cygwin, programming itself is not possible on Windows.
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
regards, maura
Maura... Winscp3 is the easiest way to do what you want. If you are willing to "Pull" the files from the linux machine. You did not say if it was a requirement that you do the commands on the linux. If you are just as happy executing the commands on windows, start winscp3, log in to your linux machine. Drag and drop the files you want from winscp to the explorer... it's that easy... Jerry
Matt T. Duval wrote:
Just dl the vnc-viewer on the windows box and set in Yast2 that you want remote admin on. Then they just need your ip so in vnc they put <ip>:1, thats it. Also for ssh use putty on the windows box. Just stuff the word putty in google
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote:
Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Maura
-- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
Actually I'd prefer to have the possibility to upload files from the Linux machine to the Window box as I'll be working on the Linux console most of the time. However sometimes I might have to grab files from the Linux machine from the Windows box. I wonder whether there is a tool that allows me to transfer data both ways... Regards, maura Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
regards, maura
Maura...
Winscp3 is the easiest way to do what you want. If you are willing to "Pull" the files from the linux machine.
You did not say if it was a requirement that you do the commands on the linux. If you are just as happy executing the commands on windows, start winscp3, log in to your linux machine. Drag and drop the files you want from winscp to the explorer... it's that easy...
Jerry
Matt T. Duval wrote:
Just dl the vnc-viewer on the windows box and set in Yast2 that you want remote admin on. Then they just need your ip so in vnc they put <ip>:1, thats it. Also for ssh use putty on the windows box. Just stuff the word putty in google
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote:
Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Maura
-- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
Okay, one last question: when you mentioned "secure" did you mean as in "reliable" or as in "encrypted"? Here some of your possiblities: You can display the windows GUI on the linux Box Using VNC (or remote desktop if using windows XP), and you can do it from windows while you are using the linux screen and keyboard. This method is not encrypted. You can mount a windows "share" directory on the linux and use the normal cp commands. (Also no encryption) (as extension to above you can copy to a windows share without mounting it) You can start the FTP service on the windows machine, and use the FTP protocoll. (Still no encryption) For encryption, you are going to need to setup a SSH server on the windows. For this there is a sourceforge project (search for windows ssh) which provides a better install of the Cygwin SSH server. Cygwin is a huge beast... Good luck Jerry On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 12:49, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Actually I'd prefer to have the possibility to upload files from the Linux machine to the Window box as I'll be working on the Linux console most of the time. However sometimes I might have to grab files from the Linux machine from the Windows box. I wonder whether there is a tool that allows me to transfer data both ways...
Regards, maura
Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
regards, maura
Maura...
Winscp3 is the easiest way to do what you want. If you are willing to "Pull" the files from the linux machine.
You did not say if it was a requirement that you do the commands on the linux. If you are just as happy executing the commands on windows, start winscp3, log in to your linux machine. Drag and drop the files you want from winscp to the explorer... it's that easy...
Jerry
Matt T. Duval wrote:
Just dl the vnc-viewer on the windows box and set in Yast2 that you want remote admin on. Then they just need your ip so in vnc they put <ip>:1, thats it. Also for ssh use putty on the windows box. Just stuff the word putty in google
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote:
Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
>I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in >the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I >succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection. > >Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) >use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? >They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. >I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. >I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP >to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use >(protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, >IP, etc..) ? >All the computers are on a network. > >Thank you in advance for your help. > >Maura > > > > -- Thank you,
Matt Duval Sr. Network Engineer HealthTrans www.healthtrans.com "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" (720) 493-8252 6061 South Willow Drive Suite 125 Greenwood Village, CO 80111
Thank you for all thishelpful info. I have to specify that when I say "secure" transfer I mean the equivalent of "scp" which I use for moving data from Linux to Linux. I alreadytried the Remote Desktop Connection from my Linux box. Indeed I can open a window showing the remote Windows screen. This method is not encrypted but to connect to the lab computers from home I do have to start VPN with the lab protocol... which makes data transfer "secure", doesn't it ? However, the RDC is like a graphics telnet, that is it does not allow me to trandfer any data. I'm very ignorant about these techniques so I'm probably asking silly questions ... If I start VPN client on my Linux box (which I regularly do for data transfer from Linux to Linux) then may I use scp to copy to a window share .. ? Moreover I do not know how to get a window share on my Linux box ... I saw this window share mechanism at the lab where people in the Division I'm joining only know Windows (sigh). They have two windows opened on there screen .. One shows the local files system in a tree view and the other window shows the files system on the remote machine. They simply drag the icon representing the file to transfer from the local window and drop it to the remote window or vice-versa. ... But all their transfers occur among WINDOWS boxes. I have no idea if I can do the same from my Linux box after starting VPN client ... I'm totally lost here.... Maybe if I get an ssh server on the Windows box at the lab then I can move data to and from my Linux box using scp command line on a character terminal .. no graphics ... which would still be acceptable to me... provided that it works ... Thank you very much for your help, maura Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
Okay, one last question: when you mentioned "secure" did you mean as in "reliable" or as in "encrypted"?
Here some of your possiblities:
You can display the windows GUI on the linux Box Using VNC (or remote desktop if using windows XP), and you can do it from windows while you are using the linux screen and keyboard. This method is not encrypted.
You can mount a windows "share" directory on the linux and use the normal cp commands. (Also no encryption)
(as extension to above you can copy to a windows share without mounting it)
You can start the FTP service on the windows machine, and use the FTP protocoll. (Still no encryption)
For encryption, you are going to need to setup a SSH server on the windows. For this there is a sourceforge project (search for windows ssh) which provides a better install of the Cygwin SSH server. Cygwin is a huge beast...
Good luck
Jerry
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 12:49, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Actually I'd prefer to have the possibility to upload files from the Linux machine to the Window box as I'll be working on the Linux console most of the time. However sometimes I might have to grab files from the Linux machine from the Windows box. I wonder whether there is a tool that allows me to transfer data both ways...
Regards, maura
Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
regards, maura
Maura...
Winscp3 is the easiest way to do what you want. If you are willing to "Pull" the files from the linux machine.
You did not say if it was a requirement that you do the commands on the linux. If you are just as happy executing the commands on windows, start winscp3, log in to your linux machine. Drag and drop the files you want from winscp to the explorer... it's that easy...
Jerry
Matt T. Duval wrote:
Just dl the vnc-viewer on the windows box and set in Yast2 that you want remote admin on. Then they just need your ip so in vnc they put <ip>:1, thats it. Also for ssh use putty on the windows box. Just stuff the word putty in google
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote:
>Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH > >On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote: > > > > > > >>I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in >>the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I >>succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection. >> >>Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) >>use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? >>They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. >>I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. >>I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP >>to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use >>(protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, >>IP, etc..) ? >>All the computers are on a network. >> >>Thank you in advance for your help. >> >>Maura >> >> >> >> >> >> >-- >Thank you, > >Matt Duval >Sr. Network Engineer >HealthTrans >www.healthtrans.com >"Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" >(720) 493-8252 >6061 South Willow Drive >Suite 125 >Greenwood Village, CO 80111 > > > > > > >
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 17:12, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Thank you for all thishelpful info. I have to specify that when I say "secure" transfer I mean the equivalent of "scp" which I use for moving data from Linux to Linux. I alreadytried the Remote Desktop Connection from my Linux box. Indeed I can open a window showing the remote Windows screen. This method is not encrypted but to connect to the lab computers from home I do have to start VPN with the lab protocol... which makes data transfer "secure", doesn't it ?
Yes, one of the major points of a VPN is to be secure secure... I cannot image that yours is not...
However, the RDC is like a graphics telnet, that is it does not allow me to trandfer any data.
I'm very ignorant about these techniques so I'm probably asking silly questions ... If I start VPN client on my Linux box (which I regularly do for data transfer from Linux to Linux) then may I use scp to copy to a window share .. ?
SCP (one of the ssh clients) requires an ssh server at the other end...
Moreover I do not know how to get a window share on my Linux box ... I saw this window share mechanism at the lab where people in the Division I'm joining only know Windows (sigh).
It is roughly equivalent to an NFS share. It's quite easy to implement, right mouse click a folder, and select "sharing", follow the dialog...
They have two windows opened on there screen .. One shows the local files system in a tree view and the other window shows the files system on the remote machine. They simply drag the icon representing the file to transfer from the local window and drop it to the remote window or vice-versa. ... But all their transfers occur among WINDOWS boxes.
Linux can do Windows sharing also...
I have no idea if I can do the same from my Linux box after starting VPN client ... I'm totally lost here.... Maybe if I get an ssh server on the Windows box at the lab then I can move data to and from my Linux box using scp command line on a character terminal .. no graphics ... which would still be acceptable to me... provided that it works ...
Correct using an ssh server, on windows you can use scp to copy to/from the machine which runs the server, and the machine where the client is running (in this case windows server, linux client)... I've never done it this way, (since I'm more a GUI person myself). On the linux machine you can use smbclient (a ftp like program) to copy files to/from windows shares. (then you don't need to install anything on the windows machine. Jerry
Thank you very much for your help, maura
Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
Okay, one last question: when you mentioned "secure" did you mean as in "reliable" or as in "encrypted"?
Here some of your possiblities:
You can display the windows GUI on the linux Box Using VNC (or remote desktop if using windows XP), and you can do it from windows while you are using the linux screen and keyboard. This method is not encrypted.
You can mount a windows "share" directory on the linux and use the normal cp commands. (Also no encryption)
(as extension to above you can copy to a windows share without mounting it)
You can start the FTP service on the windows machine, and use the FTP protocoll. (Still no encryption)
For encryption, you are going to need to setup a SSH server on the windows. For this there is a sourceforge project (search for windows ssh) which provides a better install of the Cygwin SSH server. Cygwin is a huge beast...
Good luck
Jerry
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 12:49, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Actually I'd prefer to have the possibility to upload files from the Linux machine to the Window box as I'll be working on the Linux console most of the time. However sometimes I might have to grab files from the Linux machine from the Windows box. I wonder whether there is a tool that allows me to transfer data both ways...
Regards, maura
Jerome R. Westrick wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
regards, maura
Maura...
Winscp3 is the easiest way to do what you want. If you are willing to "Pull" the files from the linux machine.
You did not say if it was a requirement that you do the commands on the linux. If you are just as happy executing the commands on windows, start winscp3, log in to your linux machine. Drag and drop the files you want from winscp to the explorer... it's that easy...
Jerry
Matt T. Duval wrote:
Just dl the vnc-viewer on the windows box and set in Yast2 that you want remote admin on. Then they just need your ip so in vnc they put <ip>:1, thats it. Also for ssh use putty on the windows box. Just stuff the word putty in google
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
> How do you do that from a WIndows box ? > Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I > guess) and type in: > # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address> > > This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines. > > I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their > Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them > to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ? > > Thank you very much, > maura > > > On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Matt T. Duval wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, they can connect via VNC or SSH > > > > On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 13:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in > > > the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I > > > succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection. > > > > > > Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) > > > use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? > > > They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. > > > I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. > > > I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP > > > to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use > > > (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, > > > IP, etc..) ? > > > All the computers are on a network. > > > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > > > > Maura > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thank you, > > > > Matt Duval > > Sr. Network Engineer > > HealthTrans > > www.healthtrans.com > > "Transforming Healthcare, One Transaction At A Time" > > (720) 493-8252 > > 6061 South Willow Drive > > Suite 125 > > Greenwood Village, CO 80111 > > > > > > > > > > > >
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Actually I'd prefer to have the possibility to upload files from the Linux machine to the Window box as I'll be working on the Linux console most of the time. However sometimes I might have to grab files from the Linux machine from the Windows box. I wonder whether there is a tool that allows me to transfer data both ways...
Standard file sharing will do that. Just mount the directory where the files are, and access them all you want.
Op woensdag 22 september 2004 12:49, schreef Maura Edelweiss Monville:
Actually I'd prefer to have the possibility to upload files from the Linux machine to the Window box as I'll be working on the Linux console most of the time. However sometimes I might have to grab files from the Linux machine from the Windows box. I wonder whether there is a tool that allows me to transfer data both ways...
filezilla I guess (hosted on sourceforge). -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Go over to the PuTTY download site, and get pscp from there. Its a nice little tool for the commandline. Works nice both ways. -- Leif Mathis Gaup
Sorry I don't get it. I was told that PuTTY is to be installed on the Windows box. Therefore I infer that "pscp" is a tool running on Windows ... am I right ? If indeed pscp runs on Windows then I must be working on the Windows machine to send files to or get files from the Linux box ... My problem is that most of the time I'll be sitting in front of the Linux machine ... Regards, maura Leif Mathis Gaup wrote:
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Go over to the PuTTY download site, and get pscp from there. Its a nice little tool for the commandline. Works nice both ways.
On Wednesday 22 Sep 2004 12:16, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Sorry I don't get it. I was told that PuTTY is to be installed on the Windows box. Therefore I infer that "pscp" is a tool running on Windows ... am I right ? If indeed pscp runs on Windows then I must be working on the Windows machine to send files to or get files from the Linux box ... My problem is that most of the time I'll be sitting in front of the Linux machine ...
Regards, maura
Leif Mathis Gaup wrote:
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 10:15, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
I was given a CD with both WinSCP3 and Putty 0.53b I was told that Putty lats me ssh FROM the Windows box TO mu Linux machine.... actually I need to move data the other way round.. that is FROM my Linux machine TO the Windows box. Does Putty allow me to do that ? If the answer is "no" then is theer any other tool taht allows for secure data transfer from a SuSE/Linux platform to a Windows/XP box ?
Go over to the PuTTY download site, and get pscp from there. Its a nice little tool for the commandline. Works nice both ways.
Linux comes with SCP installed well most suse installs do which is what pscp is just the propper one not an M$ Corp crippled one . Pete . -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . PGN
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 07:16, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Sorry I don't get it. I was told that PuTTY is to be installed on the Windows box. Therefore I infer that "pscp" is a tool running on Windows ... am I right ? If indeed pscp runs on Windows then I must be working on the Windows machine to send files to or get files from the Linux box ... My problem is that most of the time I'll be sitting in front of the Linux machine ...
Regards, maura
Then share out a folder on the windows box and use that as the transfer point. Why make this more complicated than it is. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2) * PLEASE only reply to the list *
Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
Sorry I don't get it. I was told that PuTTY is to be installed on the Windows box. Therefore I infer that "pscp" is a tool running on Windows ... am I right ? If indeed pscp runs on Windows then I must be working on the Windows machine to send files to or get files from the Linux box ... My problem is that most of the time I'll be sitting in front of the Linux machine ...
Assuming you are sharing the access to the Windows HD, you can connect to the Windows machine with Konquerer using smb:// protocol. Then, you could easily split the panel, have Windows on one side, linux on the other, and drag and drop either direction. This would assume the Windows box is on the same lan as your linux box, as it would not be wise to have a Windows share open to the internet. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
I'm using VNC-viewer from ThightVNC. I'm administrating my Suse-server with it from Windows. On your Linux-box you have to enable vnc and vnchttpd in (x)inetd. And open up the ports if you have a firewall. HTH Koenraad Lelong.
Koenraad Lelong wrote:
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
I do not know anything about VCN ... what should they install on their Windows machine and what should I install on my Linux box to allow them to connect to my two Linux boxes from their WIndows desktops ?
Thank you very much, maura
I'm using VNC-viewer from ThightVNC. I'm administrating my Suse-server with it from Windows. On your Linux-box you have to enable vnc and vnchttpd in (x)inetd. And open up the ports if you have a firewall. HTH Koenraad Lelong.
Actually, enabling vnchttpd is not needed. This is for web access. It uses the java VNC client and it's own minimal web server. If you do enable it, just point a browser to http://ipaddress:5801 and wait for the java app to load. Ignore the password request and you should see the login screen. HTH, Louis
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
How do you do that from a WIndows box ? Do you use a character terminal (found in the "Accessories" menu .. I guess) and type in: # ssh -X mauede@<my-computer-network-address>
This is the kind of connection I use to connect among Linux machines.
Get Putty, to run ssh on a Windows box.
On Thursday 09 September 2004 21:36, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
ssh -l <username>
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
The protocol used, depends on what you want to do. Linux comes with several different servers, such as Samba, for Windows file sharing, ftp, telnet, ssh, NFS and many others. If using Samba, use the same domain and user names, as on Windows, to keep things simple.
On Thursday 09 September 2004 21:03, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote: Does it have to be a GUI connection?
I tried to connect from my desktop PC running SuSE 9.1 to the computer in the Division I'm moving to (they all use Windows in there) .. I succeeded by using the SuSE provided Remote Desktop Connection.
Now my question is: Can people I'll be working with, who (unfortunately) use Windows XP, connect to my computer running Linux/SuSE 9.1 ? They regularly use RDC for connections among Windows computers. I've just found out it's possible to connect from Linux to Windows. I wonder if the opposite way works too, that is from Windows XP to Linux/SuSE ??? If the answer is YES then what should they use (protocol/package) and what should they know about my computer (domain, IP, etc..) ? All the computers are on a network.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Maura
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James Knott -
Jerome R. Westrick -
Jerome R. Westrick
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Joe Morris (NTM) -
Jophn Deo -
Ken Schneider -
Koenraad Lelong -
Leif Mathis Gaup -
Louis Richards -
Matt T. Duval -
Maura Edelweiss Monville -
Maura Edeweiss Monville
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peter Nikolic -
Randall R Schulz -
Richard Bos -
Scott Leighton