* Wolfgang Mueller [08-08-13 12:46]:

On 08/08/13 18:35, Per Jessen wrote: [...]

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Is your local mailserver running ?

I don't know. How can I find it out?

if you are running postfix which is pretty much standard fare on openSUSE, issue the following as root: systemctl status postfix if it is not running: systemctl start postfix -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 08/08/13 19:21, Per Jessen wrote:

Wolfgang Mueller wrote:

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On 08/08/13 18:35, Per Jessen wrote:

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Wolfgang Mueller wrote:

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Dear friends,

since last Sunday I cannot fetch my mail any more.

These are the last messages appearing on /var/log/fetchmail:

fetchmail: 32 messages for wolfgang at pop3.ariannuccia.de (196062 octets). fetchmail: reading message wolfgang@mc01.omc.net:1 of 32 (5707 octets) (log message incomplete) fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll: name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection refused. name 1: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection refused. fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from wolfgang@pop3.ariannuccia.de and delivering to SMTP host localhost fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP)

Obviously, fetchmail can read the messages at the provider's server; otherwise it would not see 32 messages waiting. But it cannot deliver them to me since localhost refuses connections. How can I make localhost accept them again? Hallo Wolfgang

Is your local mailserver running ? I don't know. How can I find it out?

Try one of these:

systemctl status postfix.service

systemctl status sendmail.service

Where do I find systemctl?

(I don't know what the default MTA in openSUSE is).

(I don't either. But what is an MTA?) Apologizing for my ignorance, I thank you for your patience. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* John Andersen [08-08-13 13:38]: [...]

MTA=Mail Tranfer Agent - the thing that transfers mail from the net to the local machine, and vise versa. Fetchmail is a MDA Mail Delivery Agent, and it can hand the mail either to postfix, (most often the case) or directly to your mbox (but most people aren't using mbox).

unqualified supposition "most people aren't using mbox". Please trim unnecessary quoting. It makes reading email sooo much more enjoyable. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 08/08/13 19:39, Per Jessen wrote:

Wolfgang Mueller wrote:

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On 08/08/13 19:21, Per Jessen wrote:

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Wolfgang Mueller wrote:

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On 08/08/13 18:35, Per Jessen wrote:

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Wolfgang Mueller wrote:

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Dear friends,

since last Sunday I cannot fetch my mail any more.

These are the last messages appearing on /var/log/fetchmail:

fetchmail: 32 messages for wolfgang at pop3.ariannuccia.de (196062 octets). fetchmail: reading message wolfgang@mc01.omc.net:1 of 32 (5707 octets) (log message incomplete) fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll: name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection refused. name 1: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection refused. fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from wolfgang@pop3.ariannuccia.de and delivering to SMTP host localhost fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP)

Obviously, fetchmail can read the messages at the provider's server; otherwise it would not see 32 messages waiting. But it cannot deliver them to me since localhost refuses connections. How can I make localhost accept them again? Hallo Wolfgang

Is your local mailserver running ? I don't know. How can I find it out? Try one of these:

systemctl status postfix.service

systemctl status sendmail.service Where do I find systemctl?

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(I don't know what the default MTA in openSUSE is). (I don't either. But what is an MTA?)

Apologizing for my ignorance, I thank you for your patience. No problem Wolfgang - you open a terminal window, then you type in the systemctl lines as a command and hit enter.

As the superuser (root), I tried both systemctl status sendmail.service and systemctl status postfix.service receiving, in both cases, the answer systemctl: Command not found. That's the reason why I asked your where to find systemctl.

I think your system is most probably running postfix, so once you're in a terminal window, you can try starting it:

systemctl start postfix.service.

As long as I don't know where to find systemctl, I can't start it. Thanks again, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

[08.08.2013 20:04] [Wolfgang Mueller]:

As the superuser (root), I tried both systemctl status sendmail.service and systemctl status postfix.service

receiving, in both cases, the answer systemctl: Command not found.

That's the reason why I asked your where to find systemctl.

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I think your system is most probably running postfix, so once you're in a terminal window, you can try starting it:

systemctl start postfix.service.

As long as I don't know where to find systemctl, I can't start it.

What openSUSE version do you use? In versions before 12.2, you better use (as root; the commands are in /usr/sbin, which is in root's path, but not in the PATH of the user): rcpostfix status rcsendmail status - one of these should work. HTH, Werner -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

[08.08.2013 20:29] [Wolfgang Mueller]:

On 08/08/13 20:10, Werner Flamme wrote:

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[...] What openSUSE version do you use?

I use 11.4.

OK, that's quite old.

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In versions before 12.2, you better use (as root; the commands are in /usr/sbin, which is in root's path, but not in the PATH of the user):

rcpostfix status

rcsendmail status

- one of these should work.

You are right: Whereas "rcsendmail" does not work, "rcpostfix status" produces the result "unused", but "rcpostfix start" fails.

Anyway, so far I do not see how to avoid the fetchmail message

connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection refused.

You can avoid this by starting postfix. Obviously, fetchmail tries to contact your local host on port 25, and this is the mail delivery port which is taken care of by postfix. Try "rcstart postfix" and look at the end of /var/spool/mail.log and/or /var/spool/messages what is reported here as a possible reason for not starting postfix. HTH Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

[10.08.2013 04:41] [Rajko]:

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:17:30 +0200 Werner Flamme wrote:

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Try "rcstart postfix"

rcpostfix start

Sorry, finger faster than brain error :-( -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2013-08-08 at 22:42 +0200, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:

Eventually I have solved my fetchmail problem. I just repeated what I had done most recently in Yast2, i.e. configuring the Network Settings. I did not change anything, but it helped!

Now, I could start postfix, and it runs stably. And fetchmail brings me my mails without groans.

I want to thank to all of you for your help, especially to Per Jessen and John Andresen, who gave me a lot of useful hints and whose inexhaustible patience with a Linux dummy like me was actually unique.

IMO, you should familiarize yourself with the tool chain you are using for email, or you are dead in the water when it fails. I think/understand that you are using fetchmail to get email from your ISP. This pushses the email to the MTA (Mail Transfer Agent, a component of what people call "Mail Sever"), which usually in openSUSE is postfix. And this one probably pushes email to procmail for local delivery (the MDA or LDA, Message or Local Delivery Agent). If that is what you are doing, you don't really need postfix; you can configure fetchmail to feed directly to procmail. Or to maildrop. This is explained in fetchmail(1), and I know some people in this list use this method. If you keep postfix, you can add filtering to it, like amavis. Or use it for sending, too. But as you don't, perhaps it is better to take it out of the equation. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIE3u0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VxUQCfR8/JclSqpG71BS3ZiQENnM1v RJ0An15IhpXeqXsHdCvTWW83F2ev+2d7 =6WSg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Wolfgang Mueller said the following on 08/09/2013 05:51 PM:

That sounds pretty logical. So I inserted this line in /etc/fetchmailrc: mda "/usr/bin/procmail" ;

Yes, but where did you insert it? I use that but I have in in the "poll" clause -- How long did the whining go on when KDE2 went on KDE3? The only universal constant is change. If a species can not adapt it goes extinct. That's the law of the universe, adapt or die. -- Billie Walsh, May 18 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Wolfgang Mueller [08-09-13 18:54]:

On 08/10/13 00:18, Anton Aylward wrote:

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Wolfgang Mueller said the following on 08/09/2013 05:51 PM:

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That sounds pretty logical. So I inserted this line in /etc/fetchmailrc: mda "/usr/bin/procmail" ;

Yes, but where did you insert it?

I put it on a line preceeding the poll statements.

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I use that but I have in in the "poll" clause

O.k., but where in the "poll" clause? And if there is more than one "poll" clause, has it to be inserted into each of them or in the first one only?

each poll clause for *each* email address/account. one poll clause can retrieve email for multiple addresses/accounts. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2013-08-09 at 23:51 +0200, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:

That sounds pretty logical. So I inserted this line in /etc/fetchmailrc: mda "/usr/bin/procmail" ;

Warning: for doing tests, add "keep", so that email is not deleted on the server, till you have the config right. I also prefer to use postfix, so I don't have the exact recipe for procmail. My recipes are like this: poll SERVER proto imap timeout 45, and tracepolls user NAME, with password PASS, is cer here, and fetchall, expunge 20, folders Inbox, Spam, Junk which could be: user NAME, with password PASS, is cer here, and keep (...) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIH9QoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XuMQCfTq3wio/Wa68axy2XxyTEwcop PP4An1vthBNeX23QZF067lGxrXZlxIYd =eP7C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org