Ok, now I'm using apt-get/synaptic to update some packages. I update a
few odd things and a fair amount of gnome stuff. Along with this I
update the "susewm" package and my problems start. I'm in gnome when I
do this.
So, go to log off and back into KDE from gnome. Well Whoopie, screen
goes blank, no KDM, keeps flickering, and then I see it start - I figure
o'k it had to reinit or something to that nature. But Nooooooooo!
I boots straight into Gnome2. So, where did KDE go, I look at the
gnome menu pulldown and All the KDE entries have disappeared except the
X apps and gnome --- Huh???
So, run "susewm --help" to get a take on the and it give a list, of
course, of options. I see a list of WMs to point it to, I see KDE, I
type "susewm kde" and it tells me it can't copy
"/opt/kde/share/applnk/Settings//.directory
On Sunday 16 February 2003 2:21 am, Curtis Rey wrote:
Ok, now I'm using apt-get/synaptic to update some packages. I update a few odd things and a fair amount of gnome stuff. Along with this I update the "susewm" package and my problems start. I'm in gnome when I do this.
So, go to log off and back into KDE from gnome. Well Whoopie, screen goes blank, no KDM, keeps flickering, and then I see it start - I figure o'k it had to reinit or something to that nature. But Nooooooooo!
I boots straight into Gnome2. So, where did KDE go, I look at the gnome menu pulldown and All the KDE entries have disappeared except the X apps and gnome --- Huh???
So, run "susewm --help" to get a take on the and it give a list, of course, of options. I see a list of WMs to point it to, I see KDE, I type "susewm kde" and it tells me it can't copy "/opt/kde/share/applnk/Settings//.directory
" So, I thing "ok, let's "rm -R /tmp/* etc... and the same for my /home/<username>/.mcop and .mcoprc and .kde/share/sockets-* and tmp-* etc.., etc.., but nope. So, anyone have a clue how to fix this?
TIA, Curtis. (on the edge of pulling hair out)!
Ok, with a little direction from Anders I figure out the apt-get removed some key kde packages while performing an upgrade. I have solved the problem by reinstalling the KDE packages, seems the key packages were the kdelibs3 and kdm, along with a few others. Here are some log files.
From /var/log/localmessages:
Feb 16 01:07:46 linux checkproc: checkproc: cannot stat /opt/kde3/bin/kdm: No such file or directory Feb 16 01:19:16 linux checkproc: checkproc: cannot stat /opt/kde3/bin/kdm: No such file or directory Feb 16 02:02:18 linux checkproc: checkproc: cannot stat /opt/kde3/bin/kdm: No such file or directory
From /var/log/messages:
Feb 16 01:00:00 linux kdm[25145]: Cannot execute '/opt/kde3/bin/kdm_greet' Feb 16 01:00:00 linux kdm[25137]: Greeter exited unexpectedly Feb 16 01:00:00 linux kdm[25137]: Abnormal helper termination, code 1,signal 0 Unfortunately, I don't have a print out of "rpm -qa | grep kde" but the printout the follows is markedly longer than that of last night which consisted of about only 6 or 7 kde packages vs the present. kdeartwork3-sound-3.1-62 kdeaddons3-games-3.1-10 kdegraphics3-devel-3.1-62 kdeutils3-devel-3.1-58 kdebase3-ksysguardd-3.1-51 kdenetwork3-lisa-3.1-61 kdelibs3-3.1-46 kdelibs3-devel-doc-3.1-46 kde2-compat-devel-2.2.2-375 kde2-compat-2.2.2-348 kdeaddons3-kate-3.1-46 kdeaddons3-kicker-3.1-46 kdeaddons3-konqueror-3.1-46 kdeaddons3-sound-3.1-46 kdeadmin3-3.1-51 kdeartwork3-3.1-62 kdeartwork3-xscreensaver-3.1-62 kdebase3-3.1-51 kdebase3-devel-3.1-51 kdebase3-extra-3.1-51 kdebase3-kdm-3.1-51 kdebase3-nsplugin-3.1-51 kdebase3-samba-3.1-51 kdebindings3-c-3.1-33 kdebindings3-java-3.1-33 kdebindings3-mozilla-3.1-33 kdeedu3-3.1-63 kdegames3-3.1-62 kdegames3-arcade-3.1-62 kdegames3-board-3.1-62 kdegames3-card-3.1-62 kdegames3-tactic-3.1-62 kdegraphics3-3.1-62 kdegraphics3-extra-3.1-62 kdegraphics3-fax-3.1-62 kdegraphics3-kamera-3.1-62 kdegraphics3-postscript-3.1-62 kdegraphics3-tex-3.1-62 kdegraphics3-viewer-3.1-62 kdelibs3-cups-3.1-46 kdelibs3-devel-3.1-46 kdemultimedia3-devel-3.1-62 kdemultimedia3-midi-3.1-46 kdemultimedia3-sound-3.1-46 kdemultimedia3-video-3.1-46 kdenetwork3-3.1-61 kdenetwork3-chat-3.1-61 kdenetwork3-devel-3.1-61 kdenetwork3-dialup-3.1-61 kdenetwork3-lan-3.1-61 kdenetwork3-mail-3.1-61 kdenetwork3-news-3.1-61 kdenetwork3-query-3.1-61 kdepim3-3.1-62 kdepim3-kpilot-3.1-62 kdepim3-organizer-3.1-62 kdepim3-sync-3.1-62 kdepim3-time-management-3.1-62 kdesdk3-3.1-65 kdesdk3-devel-3.1-65 kdesdk3-translate-3.1-65 kdetoys3-3.1-61 kdeutils3-3.1-58 kdeutils3-extra-3.1-58 kdeutils3-laptop-3.1-58 So, it is safe to assume that during a dependency check while updating either the various gnome packages or the susewm file that, for what ever reason, apt-get/synaptic determined that it need to remove some essential KDE packages/files. Hmmm, I don't know of any apt-get log that I can use to determine what it did (if anyone does please let me know). Be careful. Apt-get/synaptic is a nice tool overall but has been know to perform actions such as this in the past and can potentially hose your system. Luckily, I have only to replace some kde packages - it might have been much worse. Cheers, Curtis.
* Curtis Rey (crrey@charter.net) [030216 09:58]: -> ->So, it is safe to assume that during a dependency check while updating either ->the various gnome packages or the susewm file that, for what ever reason, ->apt-get/synaptic determined that it need to remove some essential KDE ->packages/files. -> ->Hmmm, I don't know of any apt-get log that I can use to determine what it did ->(if anyone does please let me know). Be careful. Apt-get/synaptic is a nice ->tool overall but has been know to perform actions such as this in the past ->and can potentially hose your system. Luckily, I have only to replace some ->kde packages - it might have been much worse. A suggestion. If Synaptic doesn't tell you " Hey! This and this and this are going to be removed! " then stop using it. :) If you use apt via commandline then you'll see that it tells you that "This and this will be installed while this, that and the other thing will be removed. " And it will give you a chance to say no..I don't want you to do that. At least until you can figure out why it wants to do what it's saying it's going to do. This isn't a dig at Curtis..it's just a general statement. " Don't just click blindly and think the software created by other flawed humans will be perfect. :) " apt can destroy things but so can YOU as well as just running rpm via commandline. It's the nature of the beast. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.
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Anders Johansson
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Ben Rosenberg
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Curtis Rey