Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

newer
RE: [SLE] Email Server II; Mail...

Paul C.Leopardi

2 Aug 2001 2 Aug '01

12:31

Hi, I've noticed a pecularity in my graphical boot on SuSE Linux 7.2 (x386). I have set up KDE 2 screensaver to 15 minutes (blank screen) and my KDE 2 energy saver standby to 30 minutes. When I reboot after a power failure, the boot process does an fsck on my large hard disk partition /dev/hdb7 (21.3 GB). This takes some time. At some point during the graphical boot, the screen blanks and stays blank. I've checked /var/log/messages and it looks like the boot continues and succeeds, but I can't get the screen to come to life. The only way to recover is to boot from the rescue system, run e2fsck on /dev/hdb7 and then reboot. The system then comes up normally. Has anyone seen this before? Should I disable graphical boot, or screen saver, or standby? Or is this just a coincidence? Or is it a bug? If it is a bug, should I report it to SuSE or to KDE or both? Thanks!

Show replies by date

Paul C.Leopardi

2 Aug 2 Aug

12:50

New subject: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

Oh, I forgot to mention, I am running the SuSE versions of XFree86 4.1 and KDE 2.1.1/2.1.2. My graphics card is an ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP). Screen is Gateway EV500. My motherboard is an Intel 440ZX-66 AGPset with a 500 MHz Celeron processor. This is standard with a Gateway 500 SEC like mine. I have 26MB memory, which is max for this motherboard. Thanks On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:31, Paul C.Leopardi wrote:

...

Hi, I've noticed a pecularity in my graphical boot on SuSE Linux 7.2 (x386). I have set up KDE 2 screensaver to 15 minutes (blank screen) and my KDE 2 energy saver standby to 30 minutes. When I reboot after a power failure, the boot process does an fsck on my large hard disk partition /dev/hdb7 (21.3 GB). This takes some time. At some point during the graphical boot, the screen blanks and stays blank. I've checked /var/log/messages and it looks like the boot continues and succeeds, but I can't get the screen to come to life. The only way to recover is to boot from the rescue system, run e2fsck on /dev/hdb7 and then reboot. The system then comes up normally. Has anyone seen this before? Should I disable graphical boot, or screen saver, or standby? Or is this just a coincidence? Or is it a bug? If it is a bug, should I report it to SuSE or to KDE or both? Thanks!

Paul C.Leopardi

12:59

New subject: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

Ooops! 26MB should be 256MB On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:50, Paul C.Leopardi wrote:

...

processor. This is standard with a Gateway 500 SEC like mine. I have 26MB memory, which is max for this motherboard.

Fergus Wilde

1 Aug 1 Aug

15:22

New subject: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

More expert people can correct me, but is it not the case that most *nix file systems hate having the power fail? Having to fsck the partitions is not a surprise, and I would guess you might see other problems, too, if you keep losing the power. Maybe a small UPS? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul C.Leopardi" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

...

Ooops! 26MB should be 256MB

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:50, Paul C.Leopardi wrote:

...
processor. This is standard with a Gateway 500 SEC like mine. I have 26MB memory, which is max for this motherboard.

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com

Steven Hatfield

2 Aug 2 Aug

15:00

New subject: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

On Wednesday 01 August 2001 11:22 am, Fergus Wilde wrote:

...

More expert people can correct me, but is it not the case that most *nix file systems hate having the power fail? Having to fsck the partitions is not a surprise, and I would guess you might see other problems, too, if you keep losing the power.

Maybe a small UPS?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul C.Leopardi" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

...
Ooops! 26MB should be 256MB

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:50, Paul C.Leopardi wrote:

...
processor. This is standard with a Gateway 500 SEC like mine. I have

26MB

...
...
memory, which is max for this motherboard.

-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com

Actually, aside from also adding a small UPS box (just enough to handle power blips and <15 Minute outages), you should also consider running ReiserFS. As RFS is a journaling filesystem, the whole "fsck" thing becomes unnecessary. When my nVidia drivers were locking up my machine on a daily basis, ReiserFS didn't even blink.. it would start back up and run perfectly... I'd see messages like "17 transactions posted in 4 seconds". That was the extent of recovery of the filesystem! I was so impressed, I now take time out of my busy day to let people know how cool RFS is ;^) As for your screen blanking during bootup.. well.. that's pretty strange, but I can see it happening like this: 1) System boots up 2) OS establishes power saving features 3) FSCK takes 400 years to run 4) During FSCK, OS saves power by shutting off monitor 5) For whatever reason, pressing the space bar doesn't unblank screen, and you are fsck'd yourself :-/ You might want to disable power saving, just to see if it is this that is causing the problem. The best fix though is to upgrade to newer technology -- ie. ReiserFS, and forego that long bootup after a power outage. Good luck! Have a great day! -Steven

Timothy R.Butler

16:45

New subject: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

...

You might want to disable power saving, just to see if it is this that is causing the problem. The best fix though is to upgrade to newer technology -- ie. ReiserFS, and forego that long bootup after a power outage.

Let me second that, ReiserFS is a great technology well worth switching over to. I might add that the fear of journaling file systems has really become unwarranted as of late. It was interesting to note the other day that while KDE Dot News was down, they switched over to ext3 (another JFS) from standard ext2 partitions. It really shows that journalling file systems are ready for prime time - even on really busy servers! -Tim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks tbutler@uninetsolutions.com ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm Free/Open Source Web Tools: http://www.uninetsolutions.com Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com ============== "Christian Web Services Since 1996" ==============

Timothy R.Butler

14:53

New subject: [SLE] Graphical boot vs screensavers vs energy savers

Hi Paul, I haven't seen this, although I have only had the graphical boot since yesterday evening, and at that I have ReiserFS so I don't have to do a fsck all the time.

...

Has anyone seen this before? Should I disable graphical boot, or screen saver, or standby? Or is this just a coincidence? Or is it a bug? If it is a bug, should I report it to SuSE or to KDE or both? Thanks!

If it's doing this before getting to the point where you login, KDE would not have any effect on this. It's most likely a bug with either SuSE's graphical boot screen or something in the Linux kernel, AFAIK. It would be interesting to see if Caldera's graphical boot screen does the same thing, alas, I haven't had Caldera installed for quite some time now... :-( Best, Tim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks tbutler@uninetsolutions.com ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm Free/Open Source Web Tools: http://www.uninetsolutions.com Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com ============== "Christian Web Services Since 1996" ==============

8304

Age (days ago)

8304

Last active (days ago)

List overview

Download

6 comments

4 participants

participants (4)

Fergus Wilde
Paul C.Leopardi
Steven Hatfield
Timothy R.Butler