[opensuse] Printing to PDF from Firefox - Something Broke
Summfing broke: I often print files from Firefox to PDF. I have been doing this for some time and on a regular basis (receipts for registration and whatnot) on my current system - openSUSE 10.3/KDE. I went to print - of all things - a registration for LinuxDay 2008. (http://www.novell.com/linux/linuxday/register.html) I no longer have the print-to-file option that I did with the option to select PDF or Postscript. I went ahead and selected the Print to File button next to the drop-down list of printers in the print dialog box. I was given simply the option of a name. I went ahead and selected myname.pdf. I ended up with a useless postscript file. What happened? What did I mess up? Here's the firefox I have: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080716 SUSE/2.0.0.16-0.1 Firefox/2.0.0.16 I've included the messed up file. Also linked here: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/2008_Linux_Day.pdf -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request
Kai Ponte pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Summfing broke:
I often print files from Firefox to PDF. I have been doing this for some time and on a regular basis (receipts for registration and whatnot) on my current system - openSUSE 10.3/KDE.
I went to print - of all things - a registration for LinuxDay 2008. (http://www.novell.com/linux/linuxday/register.html)
I no longer have the print-to-file option that I did with the option to select PDF or Postscript.
I went ahead and selected the Print to File button next to the drop-down list of printers in the print dialog box.
I was given simply the option of a name. I went ahead and selected myname.pdf. I ended up with a useless postscript file.
Isn't this the gnome way, take away configuration options to make it easier for people to use. There used to be a way to tell the print engine to use kprinter as the device which would give more options but the brains that be took it away. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:31, Kai Ponte
I was given simply the option of a name. I went ahead and selected myname.pdf. I ended up with a useless postscript file.
When I could only save as postscript from Firefox I used to use the `ps2pdf` command to convert them. I'll send you the converted file off-list. henare -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 2008-09-29 at 19:31 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Summfing broke:
I often print files from Firefox to PDF. I have been doing this for some time and on a regular basis (receipts for registration and whatnot) on my current system - openSUSE 10.3/KDE.
I went to print - of all things - a registration for LinuxDay 2008. (http://www.novell.com/linux/linuxday/register.html)
I no longer have the print-to-file option that I did with the option to select PDF or Postscript.
I didn't know there was such a possibility, I have always printed to postscript file. I think you can select what interface or program comes up when you say "print" in firefox. You can see the configuration going to "about:config", and searching for print. Some people set "kprinter" here. Or you can set a system printer that instead prints to a PDF file. I think I saw it some days back in cups somewhere :-? Perhaps it was in Yast, but it locked when I tried. It has been busy for half an hour building a printers database, and I killed it. :-(
I went ahead and selected the Print to File button next to the drop-down list of printers in the print dialog box.
I was given simply the option of a name. I went ahead and selected myname.pdf. I ended up with a useless postscript file.
It isn't useless X-)
What happened? What did I mess up?
...
I've included the messed up file.
:-) No need. You can convert postscript to pdf with a single command: ~> ps2pdf linux-day-2008.pdf done :-) I have done it that way for years. Or, you can keep the ps file and use it directly (view with gv, for instance). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjiCfcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UHzgCglNmQVu0k1DsCziZzXW87tl1p wOYAn0zYwgNYalV2igjI1CbY9s5kA7Qq =KFjg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Monday 2008-09-29 at 19:31 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Summfing broke:
I often print files from Firefox to PDF. I have been doing this for some time and on a regular basis (receipts for registration and whatnot) on my current system - openSUSE 10.3/KDE.
I went to print - of all things - a registration for LinuxDay 2008. (http://www.novell.com/linux/linuxday/register.html)
I no longer have the print-to-file option that I did with the option to select PDF or Postscript.
I didn't know there was such a possibility, I have always printed to postscript file. I think you can select what interface or program comes up when you say "print" in firefox. You can see the configuration going to "about:config", and searching for print. Some people set "kprinter" here. Or you can set a system printer that instead prints to a PDF file. I think I saw it some days back in cups somewhere :-? Perhaps it was in Yast, but it locked when I tried. It has been busy for half an hour building a printers database, and I killed it. :-(
YaST does not support this any longer. The description on the left says to pick "Other" but the choice is not available. Changing any printer settings in "about:config" to kprinter does not work as well. If the devs want to make it easier for the user then allow the selection of ANY printer that is setup in cups.
No need. You can convert postscript to pdf with a single command:
~> ps2pdf linux-day-2008.pdf
The users should NOT have to do this if printing was properly programmed in Firefox. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Ken Schneider
The users should NOT have to do this if printing was properly programmed in Firefox.
perhaps you have looked in the wrong place. The following appears to solve your problem: http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12052 note: used to be that you had to set the firefox/netscrape print command to "kprinter --stdin" and "kprinter" alone did not work as it does not now. user_pref("print.print_printer", "kprinter --stdin"); not tested :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 2008-09-30 at 09:42 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
YaST does not support this any longer. The description on the left says to pick "Other" but the choice is not available. Changing any printer settings in "about:config" to kprinter does not work as well. If the devs want to make it easier for the user then allow the selection of ANY printer that is setup in cups.
I can choose any printer I like in firefox. I get the complete dialog, and I haven't changed the settings. Only that PDF is not in the list, and I don't miss it. Just my case, though. I know it is possible to add printers with converters in cups. I have one such, but not for PDF. Maybe later I can look this up and post it here. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjiSFsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VNEgCfUMW4GMI54F44ehtfmuykNJui fEQAnROabWvuTezEoIXN3jcF9TgI0OPa =i3CD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Tuesday 2008-09-30 at 09:42 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
YaST does not support this any longer. The description on the left says to pick "Other" but the choice is not available. Changing any printer settings in "about:config" to kprinter does not work as well. If the devs want to make it easier for the user then allow the selection of ANY printer that is setup in cups.
I can choose any printer I like in firefox. I get the complete dialog, and I haven't changed the settings. Only that PDF is not in the list, and I don't miss it. Just my case, though.
I know it is possible to add printers with converters in cups. I have one such, but not for PDF. Maybe later I can look this up and post it here.
I agree that it can be done in cups but not any longer in YaST. In cups I have a "PDF" printer configured but it does not show in FF as it _should_. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 2008-09-30 at 11:52 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
I know it is possible to add printers with converters in cups. I have one such, but not for PDF. Maybe later I can look this up and post it here.
I agree that it can be done in cups but not any longer in YaST. In cups I have a "PDF" printer configured but it does not show in FF as it _should_.
There is a cups-pdf backend, but is is not included in cups as provided by opensuse nor in the oss or non-oss repos. However, I have created a non-working PDF converter (the output device is wrong), and it does show inside my Firefox. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjifiQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UNtQCghv4mvqe+8DIcFZXqmUYoYx5F fasAniE7n+SgqjH/oN+ay+Y8csV0wbg1 =vew4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 30 September 2008 06:42:57 am Ken Schneider wrote:
No need. You can convert postscript to pdf with a single command:
~> ps2pdf linux-day-2008.pdf
The users should NOT have to do this if printing was properly programmed in Firefox.
Dropping back to the '80s to use the CLI is always a bad thing, IMO. In any case, it worked fine a few weeks ago. I know I have a new version of firefox, so what did they remove?? It is sort of like my Chevy Avalanche. Between 2004 and 2006 (when I bought it) they removed the rear door lights and replaced them with reflectors. In any case, I do remember in older verisons of SUSE having a PDF printer. I tried this so far and am failing: http://en.opensuse.org/Printing_to_PDF_HOWTO At the line, "in the next screen MAKE/MANUFACTURER FOR CUPS-PDF, don't select a printer but in the OR Provide a PPD File section, provide the name of the driver by browsing to /usr/share/cups/model/CUPS-PDF.ppd then click Add Printer," the CUPS screen simply freezes. Grr! -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 30 September 2008 05:44:54 pm Kai Ponte wrote:
On Tuesday 30 September 2008 06:42:57 am Ken Schneider wrote:
No need. You can convert postscript to pdf with a single command:
~> ps2pdf linux-day-2008.pdf
The users should NOT have to do this if printing was properly programmed in Firefox.
Dropping back to the '80s to use the CLI is always a bad thing, IMO.
In any case, it worked fine a few weeks ago. I know I have a new version of firefox, so what did they remove?? ...
openSUSE 11.0 64 bit Firefox 3.0.2 It workred in any FF 3.0 since installation. Considering printing I can't recall that I have seen YaST. It just worked as set during installation. Print to file option in Firefox has 2 radio buttons to select pdf or ps file as a target. If you press pdf it will change default name mozilla.ps to mozilla.pdf, so I change mozilla to something more descriptive and it saves/prints as pdf. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. schrieb:
On Tuesday 30 September 2008 05:44:54 pm Kai Ponte wrote:
On Tuesday 30 September 2008 06:42:57 am Ken Schneider wrote:
No need. You can convert postscript to pdf with a single command:
~> ps2pdf linux-day-2008.pdf The users should NOT have to do this if printing was properly programmed in Firefox. Dropping back to the '80s to use the CLI is always a bad thing, IMO.
In any case, it worked fine a few weeks ago. I know I have a new version of firefox, so what did they remove?? ...
openSUSE 11.0 64 bit Firefox 3.0.2
It workred in any FF 3.0 since installation. Considering printing I can't recall that I have seen YaST. It just worked as set during installation.
Print to file option in Firefox has 2 radio buttons to select pdf or ps file as a target. If you press pdf it will change default name mozilla.ps to mozilla.pdf, so I change mozilla to something more descriptive and it saves/prints as pdf.
Exactly. As FF 3 uses the Gnome print dialog and that always(*) has a PDF option there shouldn't be any issue. (*) not sure since when and if really in _every_ case a PDF choice is available So probably he's using FF2 which never had a builtin function to create PDFs but only is capable to print to a postscript file or to any configured cups printer (or another print application using about:config) but anyway I don't see Firefox' fault here. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 06:57, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
So probably he's using FF2 which never had a builtin function to create PDFs but only is capable to print to a postscript file or to any configured cups printer (or another print application using about:config) but anyway I don't see Firefox' fault here.
Please read the whole thread before commenting. The OP has FF3, and he is complaining that the option to select any other printer than lpr has disappeared. The option to select kprinter allowed printing to pdf. I have exactly the same problem here, so it is definitely an FF3 issue. I just can't understand why devs feel they need to "fix" something that isn't broke, but it seems to be fashionable at the minute - assume your users are brain-dead and concentrate on the eye-candy. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.cymraeg.org.uk - Welsh-English autotranslator www.klebran.org.uk - Gwirydd gramadeg rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Kevin Donnelly schrieb:
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 06:57, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
So probably he's using FF2 which never had a builtin function to create PDFs but only is capable to print to a postscript file or to any configured cups printer (or another print application using about:config) but anyway I don't see Firefox' fault here.
Please read the whole thread before commenting. The OP has FF3, and he is complaining that the option to select any other printer than lpr has disappeared. The option to select kprinter allowed printing to pdf. I have exactly the same problem here, so it is definitely an FF3 issue. I just can't understand why devs feel they need to "fix" something that isn't broke, but it seems to be fashionable at the minute - assume your users are brain-dead and concentrate on the eye-candy.
Again, it's not FF3 issue if the print dialog is broken for some reason. Firefox is to blame since it's relying on Gnome to provide a working print dialog. So I haven't seen a bugreport about that behaviour in bugzilla.novell.com yet. If more people are having that issue I'd expect to get one. And: the old printing dialogs in Firefox were definitely broken. One could argue if it's much better now or not. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 02:21:32 am Kevin Donnelly wrote:
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 06:57, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
So probably he's using FF2 which never had a builtin function to create PDFs but only is capable to print to a postscript file or to any configured cups printer (or another print application using about:config) but anyway I don't see Firefox' fault here.
Please read the whole thread before commenting. The OP has FF3, and he is complaining that the option to select any other printer than lpr has disappeared. The option to select kprinter allowed printing to pdf. I have exactly the same problem here, so it is definitely an FF3 issue.
Basil sent me a file of the print dialog how it used to be for me and how it is for him: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/firefox_PDF_basil.jpg Notice that the first item in the list - and it is a listbox - is the "Print to File." Now, here is my print dialog box: http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/firefox_print_kai.jpg The listbox has been replaced with a drop-down combo box. He's on firefox 3.0.3 from openSUSE, and I'm on... ..wait! I'm on 2.0.16?? WTF? I was on 3.0.x from openSUSE and apparently have been downgraded somehow. This is weird. In fact, YaST doesn't even show the 3.x version anymore. There's a "MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream" showing 7.3K and a version of 3.0.1-81, but that's it. Okay, this is weird. My windows version is at 3.0.2. Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream." Time to investigate.
I just can't understand why devs feel they need to "fix" something that isn't broke, but it seems to be fashionable at the minute - assume your users are brain-dead and concentrate on the eye-candy.
They aren't? (My users better not read that!) -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 08:16:01 am Kai Ponte wrote:
Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream."
Time to investigate.
Okay, I updated to 3.0.3 and all is well with the world. I still wonder how I ended up dropping back to 2.0.2 or why either YaST, YOU or SMART would want to do that. http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/firefox_print2.jpg -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com government is a process which utilizes 45.5% gut reaction, 45.5% laws and statutes and 1% logic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 08:16 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Now, here is my print dialog box:
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/firefox_print_kai.jpg
The listbox has been replaced with a drop-down combo box.
He's on firefox 3.0.3 from openSUSE, and I'm on...
..wait!
I'm on 2.0.16??
That explains it :-p
WTF?
I was on 3.0.x from openSUSE and apparently have been downgraded somehow.
This is weird. In fact, YaST doesn't even show the 3.x version anymore. There's a "MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream" showing 7.3K and a version of 3.0.1-81, but that's it.
opensuse 11.0 has MozillaFirefox-3.0.1-0.1
Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream."
Use yast. Check your repos, you may have an old one active. Or it is the http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.0 which is problematic, that's the only one offering "MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream". - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjjlpEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WouwCfRAusMR/Qs6f7Xj4VRyqqfb7Q /Q8AoJlZUPiIe0ucNcwA22svijNqRDbm =0ilE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 08:26:06 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream."
Use yast.
I try not to. It is WAY too slow. They broke it between 9.3 and 10.0 and it hasn't been the same since.
Check your repos, you may have an old one active. Or it is the http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.0 which is problematic, that's the only one offering "MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream".
Not that I can tell. Seems to come from the openSUSE build service. Oddly enough, MozillaFirefox now is listed in YaST as red. It says I have 3.0.3-1.1 installed and 2.0.0.17-0.1 is available. Hopefully nothing tries to "upgrade" it. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com government is a process which utilizes 45.5% gut reaction, 45.5% laws and statutes and 1% logic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Well, after going crazy trying everything I could think of.... Turns out our network operations dept setup my DHCP reservation, but somehow the IP was still in the DHCP pool or someone else was manually using my address. So, ultimately, the issue was an IP address conflict. Woohoo. Adam Sailer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Adam Sailer wrote:
Well, after going crazy trying everything I could think of....
Turns out our network operations dept setup my DHCP reservation, but somehow the IP was still in the DHCP pool or someone else was manually using my address. So, ultimately, the issue was an IP address conflict.
Woohoo.
Adam Sailer
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Kai Ponte schrieb:
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 08:26:06 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream." Use yast.
I try not to. It is WAY too slow. They broke it between 9.3 and 10.0 and it hasn't been the same since.
Check your repos, you may have an old one active. Or it is the http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.0 which is problematic, that's the only one offering "MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream".
Not that I can tell. Seems to come from the openSUSE build service.
Oddly enough, MozillaFirefox now is listed in YaST as red. It says I have 3.0.3-1.1 installed and 2.0.0.17-0.1 is available.
Hopefully nothing tries to "upgrade" it.
Hmm, do you have the OBS repo mozilla:legacy added? That should be the only one providing Firefox 2.0.0.17 for 11.0 but whatever package manager should obviously never "update" to that. And speaking of *-branding-* you should make sure you have MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE instead of MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream installed. libzypp should take care of installing the right one initially but once you have one you won't get the other one (they are conflicting). Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 09:04 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 08:26:06 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream."
Use yast.
I try not to. It is WAY too slow. They broke it between 9.3 and 10.0 and it hasn't been the same since.
It is not slow. You haven't tried it recently if you say that. Plus, maybe your problem is due to not using Yast :-P
Not that I can tell. Seems to come from the openSUSE build service.
Oddly enough, MozillaFirefox now is listed in YaST as red. It says I have 3.0.3-1.1 installed and 2.0.0.17-0.1 is available.
Bad repos configured. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjj1sEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W+GQCfUek5BpFC8h0CyCoxV/ozxmyU qG0AnjnYoVU9+BP3G+qCnakijmb6KohZ =JKu3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 12:59:58 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 09:04 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 08:26:06 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream."
Use yast.
I try not to. It is WAY too slow. They broke it between 9.3 and 10.0 and it hasn't been the same since.
It is not slow. You haven't tried it recently if you say that.
Yeah, I just opened it. It takes about three minutes to load all the values. I do not have refresh on for the repos, as I let zypper take care of that with a cron job.
Plus, maybe your problem is due to not using Yast :-P
Not that I can tell. Seems to come from the openSUSE build service.
Oddly enough, MozillaFirefox now is listed in YaST as red. It says I have 3.0.3-1.1 installed and 2.0.0.17-0.1 is available.
Bad repos configured.
I wonder how. I just use the yast config tool for those. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com government is a process which utilizes 45.5% gut reaction, 45.5% laws and statutes and 1% logic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 14:45 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
I try not to. It is WAY too slow. They broke it between 9.3 and 10.0 and it hasn't been the same since.
It is not slow. You haven't tried it recently if you say that.
Yeah, I just opened it. It takes about three minutes to load all the values. I do not have refresh on for the repos, as I let zypper take care of that with a cron job.
I opened it right now, while a big compilation run is progressing, cpu=100%. Yast took about 20" to start the software management module. This machine is of year 2000 vintage, not a speed beast. If it takes 3' on your machine, you have something wrong there.
Plus, maybe your problem is due to not using Yast :-P
Not that I can tell. Seems to come from the openSUSE build service.
Oddly enough, MozillaFirefox now is listed in YaST as red. It says I have 3.0.3-1.1 installed and 2.0.0.17-0.1 is available.
Bad repos configured.
I wonder how. I just use the yast config tool for those.
zypper lr -d > somefile and copy the 'somefile' here. It will dump your repo list. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjj+bMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U1ZQCfVVi9s0vpE0zidk29NAPKmDT9 dRwAnRSk+jOwzy5aaGX816IAWQMvEX+e =oyAV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 03:29:04 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
Oddly enough, MozillaFirefox now is listed in YaST as red. It says I have 3.0.3-1.1 installed and 2.0.0.17-0.1 is available.
Bad repos configured.
I wonder how. I just use the yast config tool for those.
zypper lr -d > somefile
and copy the 'somefile' here. It will dump your repo list.
Okay, I have 16 repos enabled. I did apparently have five of them set to update. Now it only takes roughly 30 seconds to load software-installer. Not bad. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com government is a process which utilizes 45.5% gut reaction, 45.5% laws and statutes and 1% logic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 20:20 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Okay, I have 16 repos enabled. I did apparently have five of them set to update.
Now it only takes roughly 30 seconds to load software-installer.
Not bad.
See? But I have all repos on "defaults", meaning "update". But I don't have 16. They are updated when needed. Possibly it is slow for you because some/all of those repos can't be determined automatically if they need to be refreshed. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjkfVAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UTMwCeNAgM/nPweXSzrWtg0/KqJolq O4EAn3n7oTMLzsL5s3f/3+nFydFHgyCQ =fNDR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 02 October 2008 12:50:35 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 20:20 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Okay, I have 16 repos enabled. I did apparently have five of them set to update.
Now it only takes roughly 30 seconds to load software-installer.
Not bad.
See?
But I have all repos on "defaults", meaning "update". But I don't have 16.
I suppose I could purge a few. However, I'm not sure what comes from where.
They are updated when needed.
Possibly it is slow for you because some/all of those repos can't be determined automatically if they need to be refreshed.
Interesting thought. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com government is a process which utilizes 45.5% gut reaction, 45.5% laws and statutes and 1% logic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 02:04, Kai Ponte
I suppose I could purge a few. However, I'm not sure what comes from where.
Hi Kai, You're on openSUSE 11.0, no? YaST Software Management > Filter: Repositories > [Select the repo you're interested in] will show you all the packages in a repository. Use Secondary Filter: Installation Summary to see all the packages installed from a particular repository. That way you can get rid of repos you're not using. I hope that helps. h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
Basil sent me a file of the print dialog how it used to be for me and how it is for him:
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/firefox_PDF_basil.jpg
Notice that the first item in the list - and it is a listbox - is the "Print to File."
This is the default I have in FF3 and I absolutely _hate_ it. As in my previous post, there is NO way to navigate to a pre-existing file (say: output_dallas_001.pdf) and select the file and load the filename into the save to pdf filename box so you can simply change 001 to 002. See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454329
Now, here is my print dialog box:
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/firefox_print_kai.jpg
The listbox has been replaced with a drop-down combo box.
He's on firefox 3.0.3 from openSUSE, and I'm on...
..wait!
I'm on 2.0.16??
WTF?
If you were on FF3, I would beg for the magic you used to get the drop-down combo box back! That way you _could_ select kprinter and use its print to pdf function and as a bonus, your pdf's from FF would be about 50% smaller than the ones FF3 creates.
I was on 3.0.x from openSUSE and apparently have been downgraded somehow.
This is weird. In fact, YaST doesn't even show the 3.x version anymore. There's a "MozillaFirefox-branding-upstream" showing 7.3K and a version of 3.0.1-81, but that's it.
Okay, this is weird. My windows version is at 3.0.2.
Looking at SMART, there's a version 3.0.3-1.1. However, trying to upgrade it, gives me a conflict with the "branding upstream."
Time to investigate.
If you do find a way to get the drop-down combo box to work in FF3, pass it along -- Please! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin schrieb:
This is the default I have in FF3 and I absolutely _hate_ it. As in my previous post, there is NO way to navigate to a pre-existing file (say: output_dallas_001.pdf) and select the file and load the filename into the save to pdf filename box so you can simply change 001 to 002. See:
It's probably better reporting this to Gnome's bugzilla I think. The print dialog is mainly the Gtk one with just small customizations in Firefox' usage. Probably one of our Gnome guys can comment on that? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 10:09:17 am David C. Rankin wrote:
Basil sent me a file of the print dialog how it used to be for me and how it is for him:
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2008/firefox_PDF_basil.jpg
Notice that the first item in the list - and it is a listbox - is the "Print to File."
This is the default I have in FF3 and I absolutely _hate_ it. As in my previous post, there is NO way to navigate to a pre-existing file (say: output_dallas_001.pdf) and select the file and load the filename into the save to pdf filename box so you can simply change 001 to 002. See:
heh - I never noticed that you can't overwrite something else. I thought the GNOME people had finally figured out how to correctly do a file open/save dialog box, yet they forgot the ability to select an existing filename and overwrite/modify. Figures. I like firefox over Opera or Konqueror but little things like this (and the application association chooser which doesn't integrate with the kde menu) are annoying. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.perfectreign.com government is a process which utilizes 45.5% gut reaction, 45.5% laws and statutes and 1% logic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 07:57 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Exactly. As FF 3 uses the Gnome print dialog and that always(*) has a PDF option there shouldn't be any issue.
(*) not sure since when and if really in _every_ case a PDF choice is available
This exactly is what I get. At least it has the gnome feeling, but there is no about box to confirm. And print to file has the radio button to select pdf.
So probably he's using FF2 which never had a builtin function to create PDFs but only is capable to print to a postscript file or to any configured cups printer (or another print application using about:config) but anyway I don't see Firefox' fault here.
No, he is using FF3, but perhaps he has changed the default about:config settings. It was the usual trick previously. What happens if the user did not install gnome? Maybe it falls back to another default? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAkjjWe4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U3fwCXeZGNhOFXZoLroX40IUvJ5St3 pgCfdDZ5OW7Ai2vB6LXNKxaKPLXUggA= =N3gu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. schrieb:
On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 07:57 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Exactly. As FF 3 uses the Gnome print dialog and that always(*) has a PDF option there shouldn't be any issue.
(*) not sure since when and if really in _every_ case a PDF choice is available
This exactly is what I get. At least it has the gnome feeling, but there is no about box to confirm. And print to file has the radio button to select pdf.
So probably he's using FF2 which never had a builtin function to create PDFs but only is capable to print to a postscript file or to any configured cups printer (or another print application using about:config) but anyway I don't see Firefox' fault here.
No, he is using FF3, but perhaps he has changed the default about:config settings. It was the usual trick previously.
What happens if the user did not install gnome? Maybe it falls back to another default?
No. Gnome's (have to say Gtk's) print dialog is incorporated in Gtk 2.10 and upwards. Firefox won't run at all without or with an older version of Gtk just because of that printing thing. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Wednesday 2008-10-01 at 07:57 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Exactly. As FF 3 uses the Gnome print dialog and that always(*) has a PDF option there shouldn't be any issue.
(*) not sure since when and if really in _every_ case a PDF choice is available
This exactly is what I get. At least it has the gnome feeling, but there is no about box to confirm. And print to file has the radio button to select pdf.
So probably he's using FF2 which never had a builtin function to create PDFs but only is capable to print to a postscript file or to any configured cups printer (or another print application using about:config) but anyway I don't see Firefox' fault here.
No, he is using FF3, but perhaps he has changed the default about:config settings. It was the usual trick previously.
What happens if the user did not install gnome? Maybe it falls back to another default?
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
I was one of the people complaining about not being able to print to a pdf file, but that is with FF2 (openSUSE 10.3) which _is_ missing that option. I checked on my laptop running 11.0 and FF3 and the option is there. :-)) As soon as 11.1 GM is available I will be installing it on my desktop and will have FF3. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider wrote:
Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Monday 2008-09-29 at 19:31 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
Summfing broke:
I often print files from Firefox to PDF. I have been doing this for some time and on a regular basis (receipts for registration and whatnot) on my current system - openSUSE 10.3/KDE.
I went to print - of all things - a registration for LinuxDay 2008. (http://www.novell.com/linux/linuxday/register.html)
I no longer have the print-to-file option that I did with the option to select PDF or Postscript.
I didn't know there was such a possibility, I have always printed to postscript file. I think you can select what interface or program comes up when you say "print" in firefox. You can see the configuration going to "about:config", and searching for print. Some people set "kprinter" here. Or you can set a system printer that instead prints to a PDF file. I think I saw it some days back in cups somewhere :-? Perhaps it was in Yast, but it locked when I tried. It has been busy for half an hour building a printers database, and I killed it. :-(
YaST does not support this any longer. The description on the left says to pick "Other" but the choice is not available. Changing any printer settings in "about:config" to kprinter does not work as well. If the devs want to make it easier for the user then allow the selection of ANY printer that is setup in cups.
No need. You can convert postscript to pdf with a single command:
~> ps2pdf linux-day-2008.pdf
The users should NOT have to do this if printing was properly programmed in Firefox.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but Firefox has a print to PDF option, at least in v3.01. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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