Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site. Thanks Aaron
Aaron Bridge wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site.
Personally, I wouldn't attempt to do this 'live', I download the (nearly) entire distro to an old machine. 1) I use a "retired" machine as my "SuSE server". Need about 4Gb free space. 2) I create a directory /usr/suse/ 3) From this directory, I use wget -m to mirror the 9.0 distribution. To save bandwidth and disc space, I do not mirror any .src.rpm files - see the wget manpage for how to do this. The directory that you are mirroring will be something like this - /pub/suse/suse/i386/9.0/ - the first part of the path tends to vary from mirror to mirror. 3a) My own setup: wget -m --reject .src.rpm ftp://tricia.cc.gatech.edu/pub/suse/suse/i386/9.0 4) Once wget has finished (took a little over 27 hours for me on 512kb ADSL), set up an NFS share of /usr/suse 5) Following my example, go to the directory: /usr/suse/tricia.cc.gatech.edu/pub/suse/suse/i386/9.0/boot 6) Burn a CD of boot.iso 7) Boot the machine to install/updgrade from the CD you just created 8) Load the kernel module for your network card 9) Select network/nfs as the method - fill in appropriate details for you LAN. 10) Give the FULL directory path - my example would be: /usr/suse/tricia.cc.gatech.edu/pub/suse/suse/i386/9.0 Hope this makes sense - it's all fairly simple once you get used to YaST ;-) Cheers M PS - If you mirror the update directory in the same way, you can run wget daily (or whatever) and it only picks up the new stuff. This lets you do updates to as many local machines as you like without incurring lots of Internet bandwidth. -- Matthew Smith Kadina Business Consultancy South Australia http://www.kbc.net.au
I haven't tried this method myself but it's worth looking into. I plan on upgrading to 9.1 from 9.0 using apt when the time comes. http://www.geocities.com/tanjakostic/linux/upgrade-82to90.html http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html
As of today there's an article on www.osnews.com about installing suse 9.0 through ftp. I'm afraid I haven't read it though, but you might check it out. a.j. lördag 03 januari 2004 02:53 skrev Aaron Bridge:
Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site.
Thanks Aaron
On Friday 02 January 2004 16:53, Aaron Bridge wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site.
Thanks Aaron
Why bother? There is not that much new in 9.0, and 8.2 is very stable and reliable. I would run 8.2 a while longer and use it to learn the ropes before upgradeing. There are at least as many problems with 9.0 as there are with 8.2, but the answers to these are less well known. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
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Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site.
Thanks Aaron
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Hi Aaron and welcome, Aaron Bridge wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site. To my knowledge you cannot upgrade the versions via FTP ie 8.2 to 9.0 or other, SuSE has to make money somehow and hence the need to purchase a boxed set. HOWEVER you can use FTP to update the apps under 8.2 as current as possible for your base code.
HiH -- ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Using SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.1 ========================================================================
Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2
If you have the disk space (4GB ish), time etc, it might be a worthwhile downloading the whole lot and installing from your hard drive using the same boot CD. Worked for me. Hi Aaron and welcome, Aaron Bridge wrote: professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site. To my knowledge you cannot upgrade the versions via FTP ie 8.2 to 9.0 or other, SuSE has to make money somehow and hence the need to purchase a boxed set. HOWEVER you can use FTP to update the apps under 8.2 as current as possible for your base code. HiH -- ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Using SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.1 ======================================================================== -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com ##################################################################################### This e-mail message has been scanned for viruses by our email server and cleared. #####################################################################################
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 9:25 pm, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
To my knowledge you cannot upgrade the versions via FTP ie 8.2 to 9.0 or other, SuSE has to make money somehow and hence the need to purchase a boxed set. HOWEVER you can use FTP to update the apps under 8.2 as current as possible for your base code.
You could update to a full 9.0 system by downloading the complete collection of rpms from the 9.0 directory at the ftp website. However, downloading everything would take a very long time, I'd think. You can also download the latest version of particular programs the same way. What you can't do, as far as I know, is to automate the whole process so that you download only those packages that have newer versions in 9.0 without human intervention. Paul Abrahams
On Thursday 08 January 2004 04:00, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
You could update to a full 9.0 system by downloading the complete collection of rpms from the 9.0 directory at the ftp website. However, downloading everything would take a very long time, I'd think.
~ think it was about 4.3 Gigs . . . 17 nights [in cheap rate] with 56k dial-up :-O -- best wishes ____________ sent on Linux ____________
Hi Aaron and welcome,
Aaron Bridge wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site.
To my knowledge you cannot upgrade the versions via FTP ie 8.2 to 9.0 or other, SuSE has to make money somehow and hence the need to purchase a boxed set. HOWEVER you can use FTP to update the apps under 8.2 as current as possible for your base code.
HiH -- ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Using SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.1 ======================================================================== Hello: Just go to http://www.usalug.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8161 . This link should take you to the latest how to do a SuSE FTP install. If I have mistyped the link go http:..www.usalug.org and root around till you come to
On Wednesday 07 January 2004 18:25, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: the how to for doing a ftp install of SuSE 9.0. There is a link some where on the main page. Hope this helps. Ralph
On Thursday 08 January 2004 02:25, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Hi Aaron and welcome,
Aaron Bridge wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this mailing list. I defected from Red Hat after they stabbed be in the back. I went out and bought/installed Suse 8.2 professional. One week later 9.0 professional came out. I am having difficulty upgrading from the FTP site. I boot from cd with the boot.iso image just like they say. It seems their instructions are not clear to me. After I put in the installation directory the server keeps telling me the file does not exist. Any way, can someone help me with specific instructions, they know work, on using the SUSE ftp site.
I can't quite see the problem with their instructions, at least as given in ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.0/README.FTP This is the path: [IP-ADDRESS]/pub/suse/i386/9.0 I've just checked it, it's certainly working and happy to provide an ftp update or install, at least from http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.0/ Given this is only a mirror of ftp.suse.com, you shouldn't be having a problem. If you are, this section of the same document may apply: "If you get errors such as "No installation media found on server" or "Package foo.rpm does not exist" it most likely means that a) The ftp/http server you are using is not accepting new connections. b) You've misconfigured the local network or proxy settings In either case, please don't contact ftpadmin about this since we can't fix your network and/or have no control over how busy the ftp servers are." You can get the ip address of the mirror you are trying to access via the host command. I don't need to specify a proxy on either of the networks I inhabit, if you do you need to make sure you have entered the proxy settings correctly.
To my knowledge you cannot upgrade the versions via FTP ie 8.2 to 9.0 or other, SuSE has to make money somehow and hence the need to purchase a boxed set. HOWEVER you can use FTP to update the apps under 8.2 as current as possible for your base code.
Without wishing to contradict, this isn't true: the ftp install offers update in exactly the same way as the cds, except the ftp install won't put on commercial software you haven't paid for. I've carried out a successful upgrade with no problems over ftp. There seems a general conviction on this list (which I'm not saying Hylton shares) that SuSE is somehow trying to get one over on people with the ftp install, or that it's been deliberately mutilated or made hard to force people to buy a cd set. Not so. The ftp install works fine, and you get a fully working SuSE, whether by upgrade or new install, the only thing missing being software the licensing of which doesn't permit this form of distribution. You don't need to download all the rpms in the distro, or rebuild them. There aren't any inbuilt 'spoilers' or gotchas. However, as people have found, if you have a dialup connection you're asking to spend either a lot of time or a lot of money or both. Cheers all Fergus
HiH -- ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Using SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.1 ========================================================================
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