looking for a calculator
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one. -- John R. Sowden AMERICAN SENTRY SYSTEMS, INC. Residential & Commercial Alarm Service UL Listed Central Station Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 mail@americansentry.net www.americansentry.net
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention. Also, the PG calculator is very cool, gives you the look of a pocket scientific calculator bc is a very powerful command line calculator, where you have the ability to do just about anything, including defining functions with a C like syntax
On 17/07/05, Anders Johansson
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
Also, the PG calculator is very cool, gives you the look of a pocket scientific calculator
bc is a very powerful command line calculator, where you have the ability to do just about anything, including defining functions with a C like syntax
There are about 6 or 7 different calculators that run under KDE on 9.3 straight off the DVD (libraries not counted here) I'd have thought at least one would be suitable. -- Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
Also, the PG calculator is very cool, gives you the look of a pocket scientific calculator
That PG calculator uses "Reverse Polish Notation", which while very efficient, is not known by most users. Many years ago, I had a Novus Mathematician calculator, which used RPN. Once I got used to it, I found it was better than algebraic notation. I believe the HP scientific calculators also used RPN.
On Sunday 17 July 2005 18:20, James Knott wrote:
That PG calculator uses "Reverse Polish Notation", which while very efficient, is not known by most users. Many years ago, I had a Novus Mathematician calculator, which used RPN. Once I got used to it, I found it was better than algebraic notation. I believe the HP scientific calculators also used RPN.
Here's some more RPN calculators: http://www.tldp.org/linuxfocus/English/January2004/article319.shtml The last time I say a calculator with virtual tape was when I was still using Windows 3.1. Haven't seen one since. -- Robert "roach" Spencer Pietermaritzburg South Africa
On Sunday 17 July 2005 11:12 am, roach wrote:
The last time I say a calculator with virtual tape was when I was still using Windows 3.1. Haven't seen one since.
Here's one. http://gtapecalc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.7-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 14:50 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 11:12 am, roach wrote:
The last time I say a calculator with virtual tape was when I was still using Windows 3.1. Haven't seen one since.
Here's one.
http://gtapecalc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
Scott
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I tried gtapecalc. The rpm installed OK on suse 9.3, but when I execute, I get ** Message: no rc file ** Message: loading defaults Segmentation fault Also tried XBC. It will not even compile on Suse 9.3. Can't find gtkmm eventhough it is installed. Allercalc is a great windows one, but it does not run under Linux, even with CXOffice. Art
On Sunday 17 July 2005 4:06 pm, Art Fore wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 14:50 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 11:12 am, roach wrote:
The last time I say a calculator with virtual tape was when I was still using Windows 3.1. Haven't seen one since.
Here's one.
http://gtapecalc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
Scott
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I tried gtapecalc. The rpm installed OK on suse 9.3, but when I execute, I get
** Message: no rc file ** Message: loading defaults Segmentation fault
Humm, I just downloaded it and compiled it, same results here too. segfaults. Too bad, it looks like it fit the bill real well. Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.7-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)
On Sunday 17 July 2005 21:07, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 4:06 pm, Art Fore wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 14:50 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 11:12 am, roach wrote:
The last time I say a calculator with virtual tape was when I was still using Windows 3.1. Haven't seen one since.
Here's one.
I tried gtapecalc. The rpm installed OK on suse 9.3, but when I execute, I get
** Message: no rc file ** Message: loading defaults Segmentation fault
Humm, I just downloaded it and compiled it, same results here too. segfaults.
Same thing when I compile and run. ddd shows me that it died while attempting to build the 10th (indexed) child widget for the buttons. A gtk function returned NULL for some reason and the program(mer) didn't check and goes ahead and dereferences NULL. No time now to look any further. Maybe tomorrow.
Too bad, it looks like it fit the bill real well.
Yeah, it looks very promising. If it can get past the stupid programmer tricks.
On Sunday 17 July 2005 18:20, James Knott wrote:
That PG calculator uses "Reverse Polish Notation", which while very efficient, is not known by most users. _Many years ago, I had a Novus Mathematician calculator, which used RPN. _Once I got used to it, I found it was better than algebraic notation. _I believe the HP scientific calculators also used RPN.
Indeed they did, and many people preferred this to the usual
"algebraic" method of entry. I used both kinds -- an HP-85
(RPN) and a Texas Instruments TI-59 (algebraic). PostScript
is also a Reverse Polish language.
It's true that in terms of usage of the very limited resources
on those calculators RPN was very efficient.
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Polish Reverse JOIN JOIN JOIN But JOIN
Best wishes to all,
Ted.
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Hello, On Jul 18 09:07 Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk wrote (shortened):
I've got some PS files ... ... The other possibility I've tried is pstops. The command
pstops 1:0@.7 infile.ps outfile.ps
reduces the scale of the printing by a factor of 0.7 (as it says on the box). But this is not what I want: I want to scale up by about 1.5, not scale down. However,
pstops 1:0@1.5 infile.ps outfile.ps
leaves the scale unchanged.
It depends on your particuilar "some PS files". Examples: A working example: echo foo | a2ps -1 -M A5 -o in.ps pstops 1:0@0.7 in.ps out-0.7.ps pstops 1:0@1.4 in.ps out-1.4.ps Now view them directly with "gs" to avoid any unwanted side effects from "smart" applications: gs in.ps gs out-0.7.ps gs out-1.4.ps (Finish with [Ctrl]+[C].) A non-working example: echo '100 100 100 200 rectstroke showpage' >in2.ps Here the missing BoundingBox and other DSC comments make it impossible for the psutils to change the size. I.e. the PostScript document must have appropriate DSC comments so that psutils can change them. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/
On 18-Jul-05 Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
On Jul 18 09:07 Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk wrote (shortened):
I've got some PS files ... ... The other possibility I've tried is pstops. The command
pstops 1:0@.7 infile.ps outfile.ps
reduces the scale of the printing by a factor of 0.7 (as it says on the box). But this is not what I want: I want to scale up by about 1.5, not scale down. However,
pstops 1:0@1.5 infile.ps outfile.ps
leaves the scale unchanged.
It depends on your particuilar "some PS files".
Examples:
A working example:
echo foo | a2ps -1 -M A5 -o in.ps pstops 1:0@0.7 in.ps out-0.7.ps pstops 1:0@1.4 in.ps out-1.4.ps
Now view them directly with "gs" to avoid any unwanted side effects from "smart" applications:
gs in.ps gs out-0.7.ps gs out-1.4.ps
(Finish with [Ctrl]+[C].)
A non-working example:
echo '100 100 100 200 rectstroke showpage' >in2.ps
Here the missing BoundingBox and other DSC comments make it impossible for the psutils to change the size.
I.e. the PostScript document must have appropriate DSC comments so that psutils can change them.
Thanks for these comments, Johannes.
They are PS files produced from PDF files by printing to PS
from Acobat Reader. I have checked that they have a
%%BoundingBox line, and per-page DSC comments as well.
They don't however have %%PageBoundingBox comments -- might
this be a problem?
Perhaps I'll try using 'acroread --toPostScript ...' instead
of simply printing to file.
What has puzzled me is that while decreasing the size with
'pstops' works, increasing the size does not. I expected
that if one would work then the other would, which led me
to wonder if pstops does not accept scale factors > 1.
Thanks again, and best wishes,
Ted.
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E-Mail: (Ted Harding)
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From: "James Knott"
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
Also, the PG calculator is very cool, gives you the look of a pocket scientific calculator
That PG calculator uses "Reverse Polish Notation", which while very efficient, is not known by most users. Many years ago, I had a Novus Mathematician calculator, which used RPN. Once I got used to it, I found it was better than algebraic notation. I believe the HP scientific calculators also used RPN.
You guys are all wet. *grin* Never send a computer to do a calculator's job. $50 on e-bay. The HP-28S is the finest (albeit older) calculator ever made -- keep one handy at all times. Capabilities? I've designed gravity gradient decent profiles for lunar landings on the thing with less than 10,000 iterations. Libration points, Eigen vectors,values, partial differential equations, symbolic integration/differentiation, Fourier series, Laplace transforms -- no problem. Want to play with numbers in the imaginary plane? -- This baby is for you. Can't go wrong..... Yes it's RPN and it's programming language puts C, Java, etc. to shame. All done in less than 32K of memory. Amazing! (more memory than the Apollo program flew on) Sorry for the OT post -- I couldn't resist...... Aging eng./atty./geek/ you get the picture.... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN LAW FIRM, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com --
On Sunday 17 July 2005 10:41, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away REAL calculators printed the values entered and calculated results on a narrow, continuous feed roll of paper sometimes referred to as a paper tape. (Not to be confused with the punched paper tape that early computers used.) He's looking for something that keeps a visible history like a paper tape. I too have wondered at the plethora of calculator proggys available and the lack of a visible history/virtual paper tape feature.
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 10:41, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one. I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away REAL calculators printed the values entered and calculated results on a narrow, continuous feed roll of paper sometimes referred to as a paper tape. (Not to be confused with the punched paper tape that early computers used.)
He's looking for something that keeps a visible history like a paper tape. I too have wondered at the plethora of calculator proggys available and the lack of a visible history/virtual paper tape feature.
So, where do you buy rolls of virtual tape? ;-)
On Sunday 17 July 2005 11:49, James Knott wrote:
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 10:41, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away REAL calculators printed the values entered and calculated results on a narrow, continuous feed roll of paper sometimes referred to as a paper tape. (Not to be confused with the punched paper tape that early computers used.)
He's looking for something that keeps a visible history like a paper tape. I too have wondered at the plethora of calculator proggys available and the lack of a visible history/virtual paper tape feature.
So, where do you buy rolls of virtual tape? ;-) virtually anywhere, ... -- John R. Sowden AMERICAN SENTRY SYSTEMS, INC. Residential & Commercial Alarm Service UL Listed Central Station Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 mail@americansentry.net www.americansentry.net
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 14:49 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 10:41, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one. I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away REAL calculators printed the values entered and calculated results on a narrow, continuous feed roll of paper sometimes referred to as a paper tape. (Not to be confused with the punched paper tape that early computers used.)
He's looking for something that keeps a visible history like a paper tape. I too have wondered at the plethora of calculator proggys available and the lack of a visible history/virtual paper tape feature.
So, where do you buy rolls of virtual tape? ;-)
At the virtual office supply store. :-) -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
[Synthetic Cartoonz]
On Sunday 17 July 2005 10:41, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
He's looking for something that keeps a visible history like a paper tape. I too have wondered at the plethora of calculator proggys available and the lack of a visible history/virtual paper tape feature.
While undoubtedly much more than the original poster requested, GNU Calc, which requires Emacs underneath to run, has a virtual paper tape. This is likely the most wonderful calculator I ever used, and much used! It has so many commands that you should ideally skim over the tutorial, and become well acquainted from the start with its help features, which are fairly comprehensive. It has usual numbers, possibly with a lot of precision, complex numbers, intervals, normal approximated numbers, angles, times, vectors, matrices, and symbolic formulas. Besides basic arithmetic, including factorisation into primes, you can do statistical tests, regressions, matrix inversion, etc., as well as numerical or symbolic derivatives, summations, series, and integrals. And there are good hooks for using it within an editor (guess which! :-), or with TeX for superb output. Emacs is bundled with SuSE. So far that I remember, Calc has to be acquired and installed separately. For those needing it, it is well worth, in my opinion. There are better and more comprehensive tools than Calc, of course, but they are not calculators anymore! :-) -- François Pinard http://pinard.progiciels-bpi.ca
On Sunday 17 July 2005 07:41, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 17 July 2005 16:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I have no idea what a virtual tape is, but kcalc gives you all the other functions you mention.
Also, the PG calculator is very cool, gives you the look of a pocket scientific calculator
bc is a very powerful command line calculator, where you have the ability to do just about anything, including defining functions with a C like syntax There was a calculator that came with a desk management program from Central Point Software (DOS). You could scroll the tape back and forth and it could be printed. This was very handy. Unfortunately, the program was not independant of the complete package.
Re: the RPN, I also prefer RPN, primarily due to its consistancy. The "algebraic" calculators do not maintain a standard of keystrokes for calculating. When I sit down to add/subtract a string of numbers, I have to try it first, not the case with RPN. I also learned it from HP. Kcalc does handle the base conversions and, of course, more trig that I will ever understand. -- John R. Sowden AMERICAN SENTRY SYSTEMS, INC. Residential & Commercial Alarm Service UL Listed Central Station Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 mail@americansentry.net www.americansentry.net
John, On Sunday 17 July 2005 07:02, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
Do none of these in suffice: -> K (menu) --> Utilities ---> Calculator Apparently many of them are skins for a single program, pgcalc (the program is called pgcalc2), and when last I experimented with it a couple of months ago there were some problems, though my recollection of exactly what went wrong is vague. I think it crashed more than a little. Personally, I use Galculator because I absolutely require an RPN calculator and it's been available (or simply known to me) much longer than pgcalc.
John R. Sowden
Randall Schulz
John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
There are several calculators included with SuSE. On the SuSE menu, I see 9, including Kcalc.
John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one.
I haven't seen a good one that does all of these, but calculators are easy to write. I did one a while back to handle statistics and memory properly. I could easily adapt it to do what you want, e.g. by putting Sharp-style conversions on the shift-arithmetic keys. The calculator is here: http://www.uyea.btinternet.co.uk/jcal.html It runs with just a standard java virtual machine and can run standalone. If this suits, what other functions would suit and what should the virtual tape look like? -- JDL
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 07:02 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one. --
PMJI but I'm also looking for a calculator program - in my case, one
that emulates the "Texas Instruments BA-II Executive Business Analyst."
The BA-II can do loan amortization, future value, solve for APR, bond
yield, etc. There is a shareware program for Windows that emulates the
BA-II - it's called CalcPac - but I can't find one for Linux by
googling, etc.
TIA Kelly
--
Kelly J. Morris
Kelly J. Morris wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 07:02 -0700, John R. Sowden wrote:
I am running Suse 9.3 with the KDE that came with it. I am looking for a calculator that, hopefully does not require megabytes o libraries, etc that gives me a virtual tape, base conversions, memory function, a few more features that a 4-banger. Couldn't google one. --
PMJI but I'm also looking for a calculator program - in my case, one that emulates the "Texas Instruments BA-II Executive Business Analyst." The BA-II can do loan amortization, future value, solve for APR, bond yield, etc. There is a shareware program for Windows that emulates the BA-II - it's called CalcPac - but I can't find one for Linux by googling, etc.
Perhaps you can run CalcPac in wine?
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 18:37 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Kelly J. Morris wrote:
PMJI but I'm also looking for a calculator program - in my case, one that emulates the "Texas Instruments BA-II Executive Business Analyst." The BA-II can do loan amortization, future value, solve for APR, bond yield, etc. There is a shareware program for Windows that emulates the BA-II - it's called CalcPac - but I can't find one for Linux by googling, etc.
Perhaps you can run CalcPac in wine?
Hmmmm. I've never used wine before. I used Crossover Office (which I
assume is a dressed-up interface for wine) back when I was using RH 7.1.
I'll take a look at a HowTo or whatever and see if I can try it.
Thanks. Kelly
--
Kelly J. Morris
Kelly J. Morris wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 18:37 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Kelly J. Morris wrote:
PMJI but I'm also looking for a calculator program - in my case, one that emulates the "Texas Instruments BA-II Executive Business Analyst." The BA-II can do loan amortization, future value, solve for APR, bond yield, etc. There is a shareware program for Windows that emulates the BA-II - it's called CalcPac - but I can't find one for Linux by googling, etc.
Perhaps you can run CalcPac in wine?
Hmmmm. I've never used wine before. I used Crossover Office (which I assume is a dressed-up interface for wine) back when I was using RH 7.1. I'll take a look at a HowTo or whatever and see if I can try it.
Thanks. Kelly
Crossover Office or rather Codeweavers are one of the main contributors to wine development and they are usually ahead of wine. Customers pay them to support a particular app and later they plough the changes into wine when the contract allows, e.g Disney could not get Adobe to port Photoshop to Linux, so they paid Codeweavers to support it under Crossover Office for a measley $15,000.00 US. If wine now supports Photoshop, it's thanks to Codeweavers ... unless they are still under non-disclosure. It's definitely supported under crossover. They are extending the range of apps supported all the time, sometimes when enough people request it on their mailing list or when someone pays them to. There aren't many if any other companies where the CEO fields technical questions about their products. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
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Kevanf1 -
Randall R Schulz -
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Sid Boyce -
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