Re: [SLE] unable to copy and paste across apps
Sunday 17 February 2002 05:40 Jon Clausen wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2002 19:50, Tom Nicholson wrote:
I was unable to copy 4 lines of text from an error message file in Kedit and paste it into Netscape. Using netscape to access yahoo mail, I was creating a message to send via yahoo mail. Anyone know why? what I don't have installed or enabled?
Ahhh Netscrape... cut'n paste...
I forget the specifics, but the bottomline is: Netscape has it's own idea about cut/paste buffer, and (not surprisingly) it differs from kde's... So you can probably cut/paste between netscape and... netscape, but not across to kde apps...
My machine is SuSE 7.2pro. Full installation of everything. I thought there was some equivalent of win32's clipboard active in kde2.
There is: Klipper. It's nice too. And as usual, more powerful and configurable than the W$ counterpart. It just doesn't speak 'Netscape'. (Not that I know of anyway, CMIIW)
This rather anoying at times. I just tested a copy and paste from Mozilla, Feb 14, and was able to accomplish it with a right click -> copy, and right click -> paste. The KDE has a few such non-standard features itself.
Finally got yahoo to send the errors as an attachment. First I had to enable java script in netscape. I had it disabled cause I just ~hate~ java stuff as a browser user. You can be working along and something in the java program will re-select something you've just de-selected, or change your city,state selection without you knowing it. And slow to respond to keystrokes, forgot that. yeck. Still would like to know why copy and paste fails.
Yeah you can get around it. But unless you have a three-button mouse (or emulating of that enabled), there is some amount of jumping-through-hoops involved. If you *do* have a three-button mouse, then selecting text in netscape, and middle-button-clicking in whatever other app, *should* paste it there regardless. Also this *should* work in both directions.
That is the feature of X which Netscape doesn't adhere to. This is probably a resulte of trying to remain compatible with the MS Windows environment.
If I'm not mistaken, the reason this works is that the middle-button-paste is handled, not by either of the apps's c/p buffer, but by the windowmanager directly... Right? (Somebody, anybody?)
This is a standard Xism, but Netscape doesn't use it. I assume we are talking about the most recent Netscape.
Sorry to not be able to explain the c/p failure more precisely :(
I'll just offer MHO:
Netscape will: Gobble up your RAM as a cereal, with milk. Turn off your refrigiator. Rearrange the channel settings on your tv, and overdub all your videotapes with reruns of Ricky Lake. It will feed your canary to your cat. Feed your cat to your dog, and let out your dog, when it's in heat. Order 10 tons of gravel to be delivered in your driveway. Slash your tires, and key your car. Tell your wife you cheated on her, with her best friend. Tell your wife's best friend that you said she talks too much, and tell *her* husband that you voted for George Bush...
In other words: Netscape is Bad For You, and as you can probably tell, I don't like it much. If at all possible -ditch netscape. It just f*cking sucks! (resources too...)
Jon
Well the Netscpe Browser is the best cross-platform, open source browser available. It may be the only one of any merit. It handles many things better than Konqueror does. Particularly fonts and character sets. In the KDE3 Beta 2, I just opened Mozilla and Konqueror to the same page and looked at the memory usage of both programs. Konqueror is using 29248 MB and Mozilla is using 33928. That is, Mozilla is using about 4.5 MB more RAM. Considering the fact that Mozilla requires an abstraction layer so that it can easily port between platforms, I don't find that unreasonable. In general Mozilla is more stable than Konqueror, though they both have their problems. It's also worth pointing out that Netscape released their source code before the KDE 1.0 was released. I don't know exactly how much information sharing has taken place between the two projects, but I do know that Netscape pioneered the comercial web browser, and established *the web* as a hosehold term. Much of the standards work upon which Konqueror is based is the product of Netscape engineers. Steven
On Sunday 17 February 2002 13:01, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
... I just tested a copy and paste from Mozilla, Feb 14, and was able to accomplish it with a right click -> copy, and right click -> paste. The KDE has a few such non-standard features itself.
The first sentence above made me get Mozilla up and try it. My mouse isn't pedigreed, so it has two buttons only (but it's sax'd to emulate 3 buttons). I highlighted the text on Mozilla, then did Ctrl-C, went to KMail and did Ctrl-V, and the Mozilla text materialized perfectly in KMail! Doing the same thing to KEdit, I got the text there but in a continuously loooonng line. Because of my hand problem, It'is easier for me to do Ctrl-X, Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V than to click the mouse. For the record: SuSE 7.3; Mozilla 0.9.4; KDE 2.2.1; KEdit 1.3; KMail 1.3.1. Regards, gr (in sunny, warm Florida) **"In war, it counts not who's right, but who's left."** /Ann Landers/
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