Hello, A similar problem was discussed here http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html and I can paste the description verbatim, but the solutions proposed did not work for me: "I seem to remember several here complaining about their hard drive led blinking about every 5 seconds and seeing a solution to it as well. I don't remember when those mails come out, so don't know which month to look for them in the Archives." I have Suse 9.2 on a Dell SmartPC 250N laptop. It appears that something is written to/read from the hard drive every few seconds (2-5). When I boot in failsafe mode, i.e. without the X and KDE, no such disk activity is observed. Does anyone know how to stop this strange disk activity? Thanks, Sergei ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
On Friday 28 January 2005 20.58, S Sim wrote:
Hello,
A similar problem was discussed here http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html and I can paste the description verbatim, but the solutions proposed did not work for me: "I seem to remember several here complaining about their hard drive led blinking about every 5 seconds and seeing a solution to it as well. I don't remember when those mails come out, so don't know which month to look for them in the Archives."
I have Suse 9.2 on a Dell SmartPC 250N laptop. It appears that something is written to/read from the hard drive every few seconds (2-5). When I boot in failsafe mode, i.e. without the X and KDE, no such disk activity is observed.
Does anyone know how to stop this strange disk activity?
Thanks,
Sergei
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On Friday 28 January 2005 3:37 pm, Rikard Johnels wrote:
On Friday 28 January 2005 20.58, S Sim wrote:
Hello,
A similar problem was discussed here http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html and I can paste the description verbatim, but the solutions proposed did not work for me: "I seem to remember several here complaining about their hard drive led blinking about every 5 seconds and seeing a solution to it as well. I don't remember when those mails come out, so don't know which month to look for them in the Archives."
I have Suse 9.2 on a Dell SmartPC 250N laptop. It appears that something is written to/read from the hard drive every few seconds (2-5). When I boot in failsafe mode, i.e. without the X and KDE, no such disk activity is observed.
Does anyone know how to stop this strange disk activity?
Hi, Seti@home client? PeterB -- -- Proud SUSE user since 5.2 Loving SUSE 9.2 My BLOG == http://vancampen.org/blog --
On Friday 28 Jan 2005 19:58 pm, S Sim wrote:
Hello,
A similar problem was discussed here http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html and I can paste the description verbatim, but the solutions proposed did not work for me: "I seem to remember several here complaining about their hard drive led blinking about every 5 seconds and seeing a solution to it as well. I don't remember when those mails come out, so don't know which month to look for them in the Archives."
I have Suse 9.2 on a Dell SmartPC 250N laptop. It appears that something is written to/read from the hard drive every few seconds (2-5). When I boot in failsafe mode, i.e. without the X and KDE, no such disk activity is observed.
Does anyone know how to stop this strange disk activity?
Is the file alteration monitor running? Dylan
Thanks,
Sergei
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Sergei, On Friday 28 January 2005 11:58, S Sim wrote:
Hello,
A similar problem was discussed here http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html and I can paste the description verbatim, but the solutions proposed did not work for me: "I seem to remember several here complaining about their hard drive led blinking about every 5 seconds and seeing a solution to it as well. I don't remember when those mails come out, so don't know which month to look for them in the Archives."
I have Suse 9.2 on a Dell SmartPC 250N laptop. It appears that something is written to/read from the hard drive every few seconds (2-5). When I boot in failsafe mode, i.e. without the X and KDE, no such disk activity is observed.
I'm curious about which activity light you're seeing flash. Is it the hard drive's light, or is it a light that is on whenever _any_ mass storage request is pending? On my system, the activity light associated with the on-board IDE circuitry is a catch-all that is on whenever any IDE activity is ongoing. That means that for me that light reflects only DVD-ROM or DVD recorder activity. I see a faint (i.e., brief) flash every two seconds. Activity on my (SCSI) hard disks is indicated by their individual activity lights and it does not show this pattern. It reflects a pretty unpredictable pattern of activity, though there does appear to be some quasi-periodic activity roughly every four to six seconds (that's with SETI@home disabled). As far as SETI@home goes, I believe it check-points it calculation on a much less frequent interval--something like every one or two minutes, if I recall correctly.
Does anyone know how to stop this strange disk activity?
Is it really a problem? I'm amazed that people will just stark nuking processes on their system (referring to the message thread you referred to above) just to keep a trickle of disk activity from occurring.
Thanks,
Sergei
Randall Schulz
S Sim wrote:
I have Suse 9.2 on a Dell SmartPC 250N laptop. It appears that something is written to/read from the hard drive every few seconds (2-5). When I boot in failsafe mode, i.e. without the X and KDE, no such disk activity is observed.
This doesn't apply to your situation but someone else might run into it. I had a blinking hard drive light because of a lose cable on one of my hard drives in the RAID 1 configuration, and it took a while to figure out what was causing it since the system was working perfectly fine. Plugging in the cable and returning the drive to active status in the RAID fixed that problem. At least, the RAID was working just fine. :) Christopher Reimer
The Friday 2005-01-28 at 19:58 -0000, S Sim wrote:
A similar problem was discussed here http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html and I can paste the description verbatim, but the solutions proposed did not work for me: "I seem to remember several here complaining about their hard drive led blinking about every 5 seconds and seeing a solution to it as well. I don't remember when those mails come out, so don't know which month to look for them in the Archives."
There are some adjustments in /etc/sysconfig/powermanagement -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
S Sim wrote:
Hello,
A similar problem was discussed here http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html and I can paste the description verbatim, but the solutions proposed did not work for me: "I seem to remember several here complaining about their hard drive led blinking about every 5 seconds and seeing a solution to it as well. I don't remember when those mails come out, so don't know which month to look for them in the Archives."
I have Suse 9.2 on a Dell SmartPC 250N laptop. It appears that something is written to/read from the hard drive every few seconds (2-5). When I boot in failsafe mode, i.e. without the X and KDE, no such disk activity is observed.
Does anyone know how to stop this strange disk activity?
Thanks,
Sergei
I was the one who first raised the issue and in my case I finally traced it to a program in Win4Lin; Win4Lin solved that problem for me. However, others had similar 5-second "flashes" with Patrick Shanahan (Hi Patrick) saying that it was to do with having to update to the newer copy of cups while PL O'Smith traced is his "flashes" to KDE. (None of these applied to my situation.) These latter discussions took place around 20 February 2003 under the Subject Heading of "Blinking HD lite" (which is not the Subject of my messages which resulted in Win4Lin being the culprit for me). Cheers. -- "The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvellously."
The Saturday 2005-01-29 at 19:14 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
However, others had similar 5-second "flashes" with Patrick Shanahan (Hi Patrick) saying that it was to do with having to update to the newer copy of cups while PL O'Smith traced is his "flashes" to KDE. (None of these applied to my situation.)
These latter discussions took place around 20 February 2003 under the Subject Heading of "Blinking HD lite" (which is not the Subject of my messages which resulted in Win4Lin being the culprit for me).
I remember. More or less :-) I wonder if there could be an utility dumping to proc or something which PID is requesting disk activity each time. It would help a lot on these cases. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
I am replying to all previous posts so far. ---
From: Rikard Johnels (rikjoh_at_norweb.se) Date: Fri Jan 28 2005 - 22:37:50 CET Uneducated guess: The automounter trying to find new cd's or medias? Try shutting that down and see if it persists
The automounter is not used: # chkconfig | grep autofs autofs off # ps aux | grep autofs - ---
From: Peter B Van Campen (peterb_at_vancampen.org) Date: Fri Jan 28 2005 - 22:54:39 CET Seti@home client?
No. ---
From: Dylan (dylan_at_dylan.me.uk) Date: Fri Jan 28 2005 - 23:05:46 CET Is the file alteration monitor running?
No: # ps aux | grep fam - ---
From: Randall R Schulz (rschulz_at_sonic.net) Date: Fri Jan 28 2005 - 23:13:03 CET
I'm curious about which activity light you're seeing flash. Is it the hard drive's light,
Yes, the green HD LED.
or is it a light that is on whenever _any_ mass storage request is pending?
No.
Is it really a problem? I'm amazed that people will just stark nuking processes on their system (referring to the message thread you referred to above) just to keep a trickle of disk activity from occurring.
Let's say it's a phenomenon. I believe that curious minds should be encouraged to look into what might cause unexplained phenomena before they develop into problems. I can also hear the characteristic HD crunching sound during each flash. ---
From: Carlos E. R. (robin1.listas_at_tiscali.es) Date: Sat Jan 29 2005 - 00:48:37 CET There are some adjustments in > /etc/sysconfig/powermanagement
To see if power management has anything to do with it, I did # chkconfig | grep acpid acpid off # ps aux | grep acpid root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 10:55 0:05 [kacpid] root 4842 0.0 0.0 1388 56 ? Ss 10:56 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events.ignore # /etc/init.d/acpid stop # ps aux | grep acpid root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 10:55 0:05 [kacpid] #/opt/kde3/bin/ksysguard trying to kill kacpid resulted in this output to stdout: ... Launched ok, pid = 10494 Launched ok, pid = 10497 Launched ok, pid = 10500 ... ad infinitum time interval between the above line appearances seems to be the same as the one between the HD LED flashes. kacpid remained active. I am sending my /etc/sysconfig/powermanagement to you in a separate email. Anything interesting there? ---
From: Basil Chupin (blchupin_at_tpg.com.au) Date: Sat Jan 29 2005 - 09:14:27 CET Patrick) saying that it was to do with having to update to the newer copy of cups while
cupsd is not running
PL O'Smith traced is his "flashes" to KDE.
From: Carlos E. R. (robin1.listas_at_tiscali.es) Date: Sat Jan 29 2005 - 12:01:04 CET I wonder if there could be an utility dumping to
Exactly. This is his messaged I referred to in my first message: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html His solution did not help me. It may still be KDE, and, even more narrowingly, kacpid... --- proc or something which
PID is requesting disk activity each time. It would help a lot on these cases.
It surely would. Many thanks, but still fighting... Sergei ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
PL O'Smith traced is his "flashes" to KDE.
Exactly. This is his messaged I referred to in my first message: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/2225.html His solution did not help me.
It may still be KDE, and, even more narrowingly, kacpid...
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From: Carlos E. R. (robin1.listas_at_tiscali.es) Date: Sat Jan 29 2005 - 12:01:04 CET I wonder if there could be an utility dumping to
proc or something which
PID is requesting disk activity each time. It would
help a lot on these
cases.
It surely would.
Many thanks, but still fighting...
Sergei
This is a long shot but the obvious answers didn't work. I remember years ago there was a disc drive program that periodically moved the drive mechanism so that the arm didn't idle in the same place for long periods of time. When this ran it produced the exact behavior you are seeing. I don't think it provided any measurable benefit and I haven't seen it in awhile. It could be turned off but I don't remember how. Maybe someone else remembers this and has more info. Jeff
The application, which is re-launched about every 5 sec, is /opt/kde3/bin/artsd This produces an inifinite output ... Launched ok, pid = 10345 Launched ok, pid = 10348 Launched ok, pid = 10352 ... One instance of artsd is running all the time, and a second one is relaunched periodically. What might do that? Someone reported a problem, where the same inifinite output was produced seemingly because of the use of Kaffeine: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-Dec/4026.html Sergei ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
S Sim wrote:
The application, which is re-launched about every 5 sec, is /opt/kde3/bin/artsd
This produces an inifinite output ... Launched ok, pid = 10345 Launched ok, pid = 10348 Launched ok, pid = 10352 ...
One instance of artsd is running all the time, and a second one is relaunched periodically. What might do that?
Someone reported a problem, where the same inifinite output was produced seemingly because of the use of Kaffeine: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-Dec/4026.html
Sergei
I don't know if this is of any relevance but one of the people in that thread I referred to earlier said that when he went into init #3 the flashing stopped. Is this a clue of some sort? Cheers. -- "The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvellously."
* Basil Chupin
I don't know if this is of any relevance but one of the people in that thread I referred to earlier said that when he went into init #3 the flashing stopped. Is this a clue of some sort?
It might if you stop to think about it. To me, it would indicate that something active at runlevel 5 and not runlevel 3 *might* be the guilty culprit. But OldenTimers[TM] and 40 years of marriage have a tendency to interfer with attempted logical interpretations. ps: this post will self-distruct in 60 seconds, cause I'm in bigger trouble if my wife sees it. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
The Sunday 2005-01-30 at 08:25 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin
[01-30-05 07:57]: I don't know if this is of any relevance but one of the people in that thread I referred to earlier said that when he went into init #3 the flashing stopped. Is this a clue of some sort?
It might if you stop to think about it.
To me, it would indicate that something active at runlevel 5 and not runlevel 3 *might* be the guilty culprit. But OldenTimers[TM] and 40 years of marriage have a tendency to interfer with attempted logical interpretations.
ps: this post will self-distruct in 60 seconds, cause I'm in bigger trouble if my wife sees it.
You forgot about the thousand copies everywhere. Care for a bit of blackmail? X'-) Ok, seriously, you gave me an idea. Isn't there a setting to load services one by one, asking the user at each step? It would be a method to detect which one provokes undue disk activity: start one service, wait a minute. observe. Start next service... till finished. -- A programmer was found dead in his shower this afternoon. In his hand he still clutched a shampoo bottle, whose label read: "Apply, rub, rinse. Repeat". Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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Basil Chupin
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Carlos E. R.
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Christopher Reimer
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Dylan
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Jeffrey Laramie
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Patrick Shanahan
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Peter B Van Campen
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Randall R Schulz
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Rikard Johnels
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S Sim