trouble mailing the list.
Sorry for wasting your time and bandwidth, but I'm trying to submit to the list and my messages never seem to show up. I'm testing a new message here to see if it goes through at all.
Daniel Sheppeard wrote:
Sorry for wasting your time and bandwidth, but I'm trying to submit to the list and my messages never seem to show up. I'm testing a new message here to see if it goes through at all.
Sorry, didn't see it. Let me know if you don't get this message. ;-)
The Tuesday 2005-04-12 at 16:22 -0500, Daniel Sheppeard wrote:
Sorry for wasting your time and bandwidth, but I'm trying to submit to the list and my messages never seem to show up. I'm testing a new message here to see if it goes through at all.
I have seen several messages from you: N 890 Mar 2 Daniel Sheppeard (4138) [SLE] newbie backup/reinstall/dual boot advice N 891 Mar 3 Daniel Sheppeard (4082) Re: [SLE] newbie backup/reinstall/dual boot ad N 892 Mar 6 Daniel Sheppeard (6792) Re: [SLE] newbie backup/reinstall/dual boot ad N 893 Apr 10 Daniel Sheppeard (3567) [SLE] Dual-head monitor problems N 894 Apr 11 Daniel Sheppeard (3563) [SLE] dual monitor problems 895 Apr 12 Daniel Sheppeard (3247) [SLE] trouble mailing the list. N 896 Apr 13 Daniel Sheppeard (3958) [SLE] Multiple monitor problems - yet another N 897 Apr 13 Daniel Sheppeard (3873) Re: [SLE] Multiple monitor problems - yet anot N 898 Apr 13 Daniel Sheppeard (3761) Re: [SLE] Multiple monitor problems - yet anot -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On 4/14/05, Carlos E. R.
The Tuesday 2005-04-12 at 16:22 -0500, Daniel Sheppeard wrote:
Sorry for wasting your time and bandwidth, but I'm trying to submit to the list and my messages never seem to show up. I'm testing a new message here to see if it goes through at all.
I have seen several messages from you:
N 890 Mar 2 Daniel Sheppeard (4138) [SLE] newbie backup/reinstall/dual boot advice N 891 Mar 3 Daniel Sheppeard (4082) Re: [SLE] newbie backup/reinstall/dual boot ad N 892 Mar 6 Daniel Sheppeard (6792) Re: [SLE] newbie backup/reinstall/dual boot ad N 893 Apr 10 Daniel Sheppeard (3567) [SLE] Dual-head monitor problems N 894 Apr 11 Daniel Sheppeard (3563) [SLE] dual monitor problems 895 Apr 12 Daniel Sheppeard (3247) [SLE] trouble mailing the list. N 896 Apr 13 Daniel Sheppeard (3958) [SLE] Multiple monitor problems - yet another N 897 Apr 13 Daniel Sheppeard (3873) Re: [SLE] Multiple monitor problems - yet anot N 898 Apr 13 Daniel Sheppeard (3761) Re: [SLE] Multiple monitor problems - yet anot
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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I've e-mailed Daniel direct to let him know - I suspect others might have done so too. Not heard anything from him though so I wonder if he is having a problem with receiving mail? Too enthusiastic a spam filter perhaps? -- Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
The Thursday 2005-04-14 at 10:39 +0100, Kevanf1 wrote:
I've e-mailed Daniel direct to let him know - I suspect others might have done so too. Not heard anything from him though so I wonder if he is having a problem with receiving mail? Too enthusiastic a spam filter perhaps?
Probably. Yes, I think the problem is in his receiving end. But it could also be that SuSE server thought he was an spammer and rejected his emails (some we haven't seen). But we can not know unless he compares the list of his emails with what we have. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On 4/14/05, Carlos E. R.
The Thursday 2005-04-14 at 10:39 +0100, Kevanf1 wrote:
I've e-mailed Daniel direct to let him know - I suspect others might have done so too. Not heard anything from him though so I wonder if he is having a problem with receiving mail? Too enthusiastic a spam filter perhaps?
Probably. Yes, I think the problem is in his receiving end. But it could also be that SuSE server thought he was an spammer and rejected his emails (some we haven't seen). But we can not know unless he compares the list of his emails with what we have.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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At least we are trying to help :-) It's good to be of some use even if it isn't specifically technical about Linux. It just proves the point that in the open source community everybody can help in some small way. -- Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
I have a client who wishes to benchmark 4 itentical Compaq DL380's (dual Xeon64's) which run high volume Apache/SQL services. Currently 2 of them run Suse 9.1 with ReiserFS and RAID5. I've been asked to build the other 2 with Red Hat Enterprise 4 (ext3), perform the comparison and then upgrade the Suse installs to Suse Enterprise 9 and repeat the test. I'm assuming you can upgrade to Enterprise without having to rebuild the server, can you downgrade again or will that require a rebuild? I believe that this excercise will be pointless as I'd be suprised is there would be much of a difference but the client is paying for this so I can't complain. I've always thought that from a technology point of view there's little between normal and Enterprise versions of Linux. Other than differences between fily system types I can't see why there would be a measurable difference between the perfomance of RedHat and Suse as they're built on the same Kernel, this test has come about due to my preference of Linux distro. Which ever system performs the best its' OS will be used to build a whole new platform based on 30 machines. Perhaps I should sabotage the Red Hat builds to ensure the platform uses Suse! Thoughts from the guys on this list regarding the above would be interesting. Matthew
On Monday 18 April 2005 12:28, Matthew Stringer wrote:
I have a client who wishes to benchmark 4 itentical Compaq DL380's (dual Xeon64's) which run high volume Apache/SQL services.
Currently 2 of them run Suse 9.1 with ReiserFS and RAID5.
I've been asked to build the other 2 with Red Hat Enterprise 4 (ext3), perform the comparison and then upgrade the Suse installs to Suse Enterprise 9 and repeat the test.
I'm assuming you can upgrade to Enterprise without having to rebuild the server, can you downgrade again or will that require a rebuild?
I believe that this excercise will be pointless as I'd be suprised is there would be much of a difference but the client is paying for this so I can't complain.
I've always thought that from a technology point of view there's little between normal and Enterprise versions of Linux.
Yes, but in this case I think you should look at a larger picture than strictly technology and strictly now. SUSE 9.1 will get out of maintenance in 1 year. Upgrading all the 30 servers won't be so pleasant. SLES will be maintained for much longer.
Other than differences between fily system types I can't see why there would be a measurable difference between the perfomance of RedHat and Suse as they're built on the same Kernel, this test has come about due to my preference of Linux distro. Which ever system performs the best its' OS will be used to build a whole new platform based on 30 machines.
The differences in performance shouldn't be significant at all. It's still Linux, after all, be it SUSE or Red Hat. But again, this is not about just performance. Having 30 servers, you'd definitely want a "mass administration" tool, to do stuff from a console on all the servers at once. That tool is ZENworks.
Perhaps I should sabotage the Red Hat builds to ensure the platform uses Suse!
Falling over to the dark side of the Force is easy :-) I'd say keep the play fair. Don't hit Red Hat, they're not the enemy.
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 10:28 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:
Other than differences between fily system types I can't see why there would be a measurable difference between the perfomance of RedHat and Suse as they're built on the same Kernel, this test has come about due to my preference of Linux distro. Which ever system performs the best its' OS will be used to build a whole new platform based on 30 machines.
Perhaps I should sabotage the Red Hat builds to ensure the platform uses Suse!
Thoughts from the guys on this list regarding the above would be interesting.
I wouldn't rig the test, if they somehow found out later there goes your reputation. Regarding the raid5 make sure that you setup the controller correctly regarding the I/O. It can be set to set to give better performance for writes or reads, select writes as reading is always faster on media anyway. Anyhow just a thought. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
Sorry for not getting back. I've been a little distracted the last several days. Yes, my messages seem to go through now. I'm not sure what the issue was, but this thread and one other I've started are showing just fine. Thanks to everyone for their concern and help. I'm fine now. T. Daniel
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