HTML messages in kmail (was: some rubbish about religion)
Kai Ponte wrote:
Anyone drink any new beers lately?
I just had a pretty decent Triple Leffe (Belgian, very nice). I've had it before, but I just bought it so it was brand new :)
Oh, and how do I get KMail to auto-accept HTML emails? Though I despise them, some of my newsletters insist on sending in that format and I hate having to constantly click on two links to get the mail to display the way I want it.
Settings->Configure Kmail->Security, in the Reading section you have a setting "prefer HTML to plain text" which, if you check it, will automatically render the HTML for you. For your newsletter it might be OK, but for other mail it might be dangerous. Another, more secure option would be to keep the general HTML setting to off. Then you filter your newsletters into a special folder. Highlight the folder, and go to the Folder menu and there you will find the "Prefer HTML to plain text" setting too, except now it's only for this particular folder.
On 22/01/06, Anders Johansson
Kai Ponte wrote:
Anyone drink any new beers lately?
I just had a pretty decent Triple Leffe (Belgian, very nice). I've had it before, but I just bought it so it was brand new :)
I gave the higher strength 'Chimay' a try over Xmas. Very nice indeed, somewhat wheaty in flavour with a definite yeastiness to it. Not an unpleasant yeastiness like I have found with some beers. The strength is not quite up to barley wine standards but close. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-01-22 at 12:58 -0000, Kevanf1 wrote:
I gave the higher strength 'Chimay' a try over Xmas. Very nice indeed, somewhat wheaty in flavour with a definite yeastiness to it. Not an unpleasant yeastiness like I have found with some beers. The strength is not quite up to barley wine standards but close.
This is so defintely off topic, but I couldn't resist O:-) I don't like beer (yeah, I'm that rare :-p ), but once I tried, in southern France, a "white beer" which I liked, but the type is completely unknown down here. Do you know what could it have been? - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFD06OStTMYHG2NR9URApjJAJ9/WT3qMcXUvJB5KvfJm7FZTVc9fQCfRpdr lA+n9UkZX2dlBfsg5Kpy8OU= =n2WT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-01-22 at 03:45 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
For your newsletter it might be OK, but for other mail it might be dangerous. Another, more secure option would be to keep the general HTML setting to off. Then you filter your newsletters into a special folder. Highlight the folder, and go to the Folder menu and there you will find the "Prefer HTML to plain text" setting too, except now it's only for this particular folder.
Certainly, kmail is full of nice features. I whish the mozilla/thunderbird people would catch up! - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFD06K6tTMYHG2NR9URAj/lAJ9CsDBsjtI8UyZ+V013WTCMZaajRACeM/Gx Lga7uFPzfXOA4ua2y5KAJ20= =Q75a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Certainly, kmail is full of nice features. I whish the mozilla/thunderbird people would catch up!
I agree, for most things kmail is my favourite mail client. But I've recently started using thunderbird 1.5 for one reason only: performance. In my suse-linux-e IMAP folder I have something like 28500 email. and kmail is dog slow when working on it. thunderbird on the other hand opens it in a second flat and it's not faked, I can start working immediately. So one of the main improvements I'm waiting for in the next version of kmail is speed. The functionality is there, but it is in serious need of optimisation
On Sunday 22 January 2006 09:35, Anders Johansson wrote:
I agree, for most things kmail is my favourite mail client. But I've recently started using thunderbird 1.5 for one reason only: performance. In my suse-linux-e IMAP folder I have something like 28500 email. and kmail is dog slow when working on it. thunderbird on the other hand opens it in a second flat and it's not faked, I can start working immediately.
I had about 45K emails in my suse-linux-e folder, and I noticed the same ~10 second lag when switching folders. I broke the older mail out into folders by year, and that reduced the lag to about 3 seconds. Much more tolerable.
So one of the main improvements I'm waiting for in the next version of kmail is speed. The functionality is there, but it is in serious need of optimisation
And based on conversations on kde-devel, I think we'll get in in KDE4. Regards, Mark
On Sunday 22 January 2006 12:35, Anders Johansson wrote: [...]
I've recently started using thunderbird 1.5 for one reason only: performance. In my suse-linux-e IMAP folder I have something like 28500 email. and kmail is dog slow when working on it. thunderbird on the other hand opens it in a second flat and it's not faked, I can start working immediately.
Twenty-eight-thousand-five hundred?!? Oh. So you only keep a couple of weeks of [SLE]... :-) It might be my elderly machine (Athlon 1.1GHz), but I've always found that when a KDE folder gets bigger than 16-20,000 messages, it bogs down. For years, I've been splitting them off into (e.g.) "[SLE-old]", "[SLE-older]", "[SLE-really-old]"... and so on. So not everybody notices that effect - KMail slowing down when the message count in a folder is greater than (say) 16000 or so? I'm sure I've seen it since SuSE was young.
So one of the main improvements I'm waiting for in the next version of kmail is speed. The functionality is there, but it is in serious need of optimisation
Is KMail keeping everything locally? Or are you being served (IMAP?) from a dedicated server at your place? Kevin
elefino wrote:
On Sunday 22 January 2006 12:35, Anders Johansson wrote: [...]
I've recently started using thunderbird 1.5 for one reason only: performance. In my suse-linux-e IMAP folder I have something like 28500 email. and kmail is dog slow when working on it. thunderbird on the other hand opens it in a second flat and it's not faked, I can start working immediately.
Twenty-eight-thousand-five hundred?!? Oh. So you only keep a couple of weeks of [SLE]... :-)
The oldest mail in the folder is from April 2005, which was about when I got my current setup.
Is KMail keeping everything locally? Or are you being served (IMAP?) from a dedicated server at your place?
This is a dedicated IMAP server. When kmail opens it, it barely registers on that machine, so even without using thunderbird it would still be obvious that it's not a server side issue. It's clearly kmail having problems with IMAP
On Saturday 21 January 2006 06:45 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
For your newsletter it might be OK, but for other mail it might be dangerous. Another, more secure option would be to keep the general HTML setting to off. Then you filter your newsletters into a special folder. Highlight the folder, and go to the Folder menu and there you will find the "Prefer HTML to plain text" setting too, except now it's only for this particular folder.
Excellent idea. I have setup a "newsletters" folder in which I filter the offensive newsletters and setup the Prefere HTML on that one. Oh, and thanks all for the beer tips. I'll have to head out to the store this afternoon and see what I can find. I've been growing tired of Sierra Nevada and Red Hook. :P -- kai www.perfectreign.com linux - genuine windows replacement part
Hi, On Saturday 21 January 2006 18:45, Anders Johansson wrote:
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Settings->Configure Kmail->Security, in the Reading section you have a setting "prefer HTML to plain text" which, if you check it, will automatically render the HTML for you.
For your newsletter it might be OK, but for other mail it might be dangerous. Another, more secure option would be to keep the general HTML setting to off. Then you filter your newsletters into a special folder. Highlight the folder, and go to the Folder menu and there you will find the "Prefer HTML to plain text" setting too, except now it's only for this particular folder.
I do this, but there's a more subtle issue not addressed by this strategy. An example of what can happen (and has happened to me) occurred because I have a folder into which I filter all my email from Amazon.com. Since I allow them to send me HTML mail with flyers and promotions and such, I turn on the "Prefer HTML to Plain Text" and "Load External References" for that folder. A week or so ago, I got a phishing attempt based on Amazon.com. Since the return address was faked (of course), the message was filtered into that folder and I opened it, causing the HTML to be interpreted and, worst of all, fetching the external references. Oops! It was probably not wise to enable the Load External References unless I could come up with a more reliable filter. One obvious improvement was to add to the Amazon.com filter an exclusion for messages flagged as spam by my ISP (who use SpamAssassin). Randall Schulz -- Kill a Libertarian for Jesus. He's hungry for blackened soul.
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Randall R Schulz