On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Herbert Graeber wrote:

Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 20:50:19 schrieb Greg Freemyer:

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One more issue in my upgrade saga.

I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade.  (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)

I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.

If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console.  I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.

Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently.  Does anyone know the solution?

Remove (or better renmae) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It's not needed anymore in most cases and some times it make keyborad and mouse not work.

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I had tried that. Didn't work for me though some people state it did for them. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2010/01/21 15:37 (GMT-0500) Greg Freemyer composed:

how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx?

I've wondered more than once why finding a simple way to start the non-default DM seems so difficult to find. I looked again after first your post for well over an hour without finding a direct way. A relatively simple indirect one that works in 11.2 is to create ~/.xinitrc containing e.g. 'exec icewm', which if exists will cause IceWM to start as a result of running startx. -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2010-01-21 at 18:51 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2010/01/21 15:37 (GMT-0500) Greg Freemyer composed:

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how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx?

I've wondered more than once why finding a simple way to start the non-default DM seems so difficult to find. I looked again after first your post for well over an hour without finding a direct way.

startx kde startx gnome ... etc. If you want to start a second session, the syntax is "startx kde -- :1". "wmlist" will print a list of available wm. However, for some reason I don't know, this syntax fails with 11.2 («bad command line option "xterm"»). Go figure. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktY7LAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XMuwCeOne49fb0/sgD7BfE8147WJMo rkYAnj7n4hF8TpIqUNpqy8wEbiCpuOSA =Cw4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2010-01-21 at 19:17 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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If you want to start a second session, the syntax is "startx kde -- :1". "wmlist" will print a list of available wm.

but wmlist does not necessarily provide all of the installed windowmanagers :^(

No? I think it does on my machine.

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However, for some reason I don't know, this syntax fails with 11.2 («bad command line option "xterm"»). Go figure.

I have not tried with kde/gnome, but icewm, xfce4, enlightenment, e16 and lxde work for me in 11.2 (from runlevel 3).

I have discovered that the command works if you give the full path to the wm, but fails if you give only the name - which worked on earlier versions. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktY74wACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X+FQCgjnb1pbA6edV2JXeQ48cmEPgH 7KQAnAlWtAmT19LAK5QJQk1YwljiUZzC =Mgko -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On 22/01/10 00:57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

may be a quirk on my system, but: wmlist enlightenment openbox icewm-session twm

I also have kde, gnome, xfce4, lxde, e16, e17, twm and maybe a few I don't recall....

I just had a look at the wmlist script, all it does is call type -p $WM_NAME for a bunch of different names. However many of them don't make sense, e.g. there is no kdm or gdm in the list, just "kde" and "gnome" which of course won't show up. Will try and have a look at updating it, but if anyone wants to beat me to it, the file belongs to the package "x11-tools". Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Herbert Graeber wrote:

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Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 20:50:19 schrieb Greg Freemyer:

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One more issue in my upgrade saga.

I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade.  (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)

I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.

If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console.  I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.

Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently.  Does anyone know the solution?

Remove (or better renmae) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It's not needed anymore in most cases and some times it make keyborad and mouse not work.

No luck,

If kde is a possible problem, how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx?

This is primarily a samba and web server, so I normally just run the gui for some admin work from time to time.  I don't need kde or gnome.

As long as I have something like "alt-f2" that lets me run gui apps.

Greg

All, I'm still having the no keyboard / mouse issue. I deleted Xorg and KDE totally. then I reinstalled just X, so kde should not be the problem. When I try startx it now defaults to fvwm2, but I still have no keyboard mouse. /etc/X11/xorg.conf has been renamed, so it is not an issue. Should I put it back in place and try to experiment with this section of the file? Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment the following option to reenable kbd/mouse driver input sections. # Otherwise evdev driver is used. #Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 22 Jan 2010 10:00:09 Lars Müller wrote:

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 08:25:37AM +0000, ianseeks wrote: [8<]

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I had exactly the same result as you yesterday. I tried a few times with no luck so I resorted to doing a fresh install via DVD in the end. I then added the Factory KDE4 repo to get the the latest KDE4 - Yast doesn't install anything from this repo no matter what priority i set so i had to use "zypper dup" to get it.

up and patch does _not_ perform vendor changes!

while dup does.

From man zypper on a openSUSE 11.2 system:

dist-upgrade (dup) [options] Perform a distribution upgrade. This command applies the state of (specified) repositories onto the system; upgrades (or even downgrades) installed packages to versions found in reposito- ries, removes packages that are no longer in the repositories and pose a dependency problem for the upgrade, handles package splits and renames, etc.

If no repositories are specified via --from or --repo options, zypper will do the upgrade with all defined repositories. This can be a problem if the system contains conflicting reposito- ries, like repositories for two different distribution releases. This often happens if one forgets to remove older release repos- itory after adding a new one, say openSUSE 11.1 and openSUSE 11.2.

To avoid the above trouble, you can specify the repositories from which to do the upgrade using the --from or --repo options. The difference between these two is that when --repo is used, zypper acts as if it knew onle the specified repositories, while with --from zypper can eventually use also the rest of enabled repositories to satisfy package dependencies.

Lars I used "dup" to get from 11.1 to 11.2 but i didn't realise that you needed it to get KDE4 factory updates -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 22 Jan 2010 19:22:16 Anders Johansson wrote:

On Friday 22 January 2010 20:17:43 ianseeks wrote:

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I used "dup" to get from 11.1 to 11.2 but i didn't realise that you needed it to get KDE4 factory updates

Normally you don't, but in some cases, the developer may decide to split a package in two, or rename a package. These things happen in bleeding-edge development situations. dup handles that, up doesn't

Anders Thanks. Is that why Yast ignores the updates? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org