About all the test mails to the list

Anders Johansson

4 Apr 2005 4 Apr '05

21:28

There doesn't have to be 15-20 mail with 'test' or 'is the list down' There is an archive at lists.suse.com/archive. If there hasn't been a new entry there, odds are the list is down. There is a test list, which you can subscribe to at test-list-subscribe@suse.com - if you can't, odds are the list server is malfunctioning, or you will get an error message explaining what the problem is. There is an admin, who doesn't always monitor this list, but whom you can make aware of any problems at suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com, assuming it's a local suse-linux-e problem, or ml-admin@suse.com if it's a general list server problem.

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Sid Boyce

5 Apr 5 Apr

00:03

New subject: [SLE] About all the test mails to the list

Anders Johansson wrote:

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There doesn't have to be 15-20 mail with 'test' or 'is the list down'

There is an archive at lists.suse.com/archive. If there hasn't been a new entry there, odds are the list is down.

There is a test list, which you can subscribe to at test-list-subscribe@suse.com - if you can't, odds are the list server is malfunctioning, or you will get an error message explaining what the problem is.

There is an admin, who doesn't always monitor this list, but whom you can make aware of any problems at suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com, assuming it's a local suse-linux-e problem, or ml-admin@suse.com if it's a general list server problem.

It was so obvious, I didn't even check, mail was getting through from elsewhere, so the list had to be down. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Keen licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM Mainframes and Sun Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux for all Computing Tasks

Greg Wallace

00:07

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On Monday, April 04, 2005 @ 1:28 PM, Anders Johanson wrote:

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There doesn't have to be 15-20 mail with 'test' or 'is the list down'

There is an archive at lists.suse.com/archive. If there hasn't been a new entry there, odds are the list is down.

There is a test list, which you can subscribe to at test-list-subscribe@suse.com - if you can't, odds are the list server is malfunctioning, or you will get an error message explaining what the problem is.

There is an admin, who doesn't always monitor this list, but whom you can make aware of any problems at suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com, assuming it's a local

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suse-linux-e problem, or ml-admin@suse.com if it's a general list server problem.

Good information Anders. Thanks. I'm guilty of a double post during that time. Only after I sent it did I notice that the last post that had come through from Ken Schneider that I had seen 3 hours earlier was still sitting at the top of my suse-linux-e folder. I didn't know about test-list-subscribe@suse.com. I did check the archive, but the time difference threw me at first. Looks like its GMT+2. I'm GMT-9, 11 hours behind, so what looked like new posts were actually old posts (It's already tomorrow there right now, based on my time). Greg Wallace

Ken Schneider

01:21

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On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:07 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:

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Good information Anders. Thanks. I'm guilty of a double post during that time. Only after I sent it did I notice that the last post that had come through from Ken Schneider that I had seen 3 hours earlier was still sitting at the top of my suse-linux-e folder. I didn't know about test-list-subscribe@suse.com. I did check the archive, but the time difference threw me at first. Looks like its GMT+2. I'm GMT-9, 11 hours behind, so what looked like new posts were actually old posts (It's already tomorrow there right now, based on my time).

Almost afraid to post and possibly break the server again. :-) -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

Greg Wallace

01:32

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On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:07 -0800, Greg Wallace wrote:

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Good information Anders. Thanks. I'm guilty of a double post during

On Monday, April 05, 2005 @5:22 PM, Ken Schneider wrote: that

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time. Only after I sent it did I notice that the last post that had come through from Ken Schneider that I had seen 3 hours earlier was still sitting at the top of my suse-linux-e folder. I didn't know about test-list-subscribe@suse.com. I did check the archive, but the time difference threw me at first. Looks like its GMT+2. I'm GMT-9, 11 hours behind, so what looked like new posts were actually old posts (It's already tomorrow there right now, based on my time).

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Almost afraid to post and possibly break the server again. :-)

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-- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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* Only reply to the list please*

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"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

Hey. You DID get the last word in Friday, so to speak! Actually, there was some SPAM after your post, but I, naturally, didn't count that. Greg W.

Carlos E. R.

19:03

New subject: [SLE] About all the test mails to the list

The Monday 2005-04-04 at 23:28 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

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There doesn't have to be 15-20 mail with 'test' or 'is the list down'

There is an archive at lists.suse.com/archive. If there hasn't been a new entry there, odds are the list is down.

Correct - if we except spam, that does get there, surprisingly :-/

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There is a test list, which you can subscribe to at test-list-subscribe@suse.com - if you can't, odds are the list server is malfunctioning, or you will get an error message explaining what the problem is.

True also. I have used it now and then. It is documented on this list FAQ.

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There is an admin, who doesn't always monitor this list, but whom you can make aware of any problems at suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com, assuming it's a local suse-linux-e problem, or ml-admin@suse.com if it's a general list server problem.

Unfortunately, when the list are down, those addresses are also broken, because they are handled by the list server, that is down. Unless there is a an admin address outside :-? That's why I informed Feedback, and got no response either, this time. On previous occasions, they answered. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

peter thesing

12 Jun 12 Jun

13:11

New subject: postfix unable to find e.g. hotmail.com

Hi Thru the tutorial i have setup webcyradmin, postfix and Cyrus as mail components. Without any problem i can send emails to the defined users in the domains i have specified in webcyradmin. However if i want to send an email to my hotmail account i get the following entry in the mail log. Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/qmgr[27116]: EB2F255BE8: from=, size=575, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtp[27202]: EB2F255BE8: to=, relay=none, delay=1, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtpd[27175]: disconnect from celeron.prive.web[10.0.0.157] and the mail is not delivered peter:/ # host hotmail.com hotmail.com has address 64.4.32.7 hotmail.com has address 64.4.33.7 peter:/ # peter:/ # nslookup hotmail.com Note: nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases. Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead. Run nslookup with the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing. Server: 10.0.0.138 Address: 10.0.0.138#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: hotmail.com Address: 64.4.33.7 Name: hotmail.com Address: 64.4.32.7 peter:/ # peter:/ # dig hotmail.com ; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> hotmail.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38594 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;hotmail.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: hotmail.com. 1464 IN A 64.4.32.7 hotmail.com. 1464 IN A 64.4.33.7 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: hotmail.com. 170578 IN NS ns3.msft.net. hotmail.com. 170578 IN NS ns4.msft.net. hotmail.com. 170578 IN NS ns5.msft.net. hotmail.com. 170578 IN NS ns1.msft.net. hotmail.com. 170578 IN NS ns2.msft.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns3.msft.net. 2502 IN A 213.199.144.151 ns4.msft.net. 2547 IN A 207.46.66.75 ns5.msft.net. 2507 IN A 207.46.138.20 ns1.msft.net. 2502 IN A 207.46.245.230 ns2.msft.net. 2495 IN A 64.4.25.30 ;; Query time: 20 msec ;; SERVER: 10.0.0.138#53(10.0.0.138) ;; WHEN: Sun Jun 12 14:36:45 2005 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 239 peter:/ # clearly hotmail.com can be found, but not by postfix What and where and how do i need to modify to enable postfix to find hotmail? If at all possible i do not want the smtp server from my ISP as a smart host. I have read somewhere that postfix is able to send a message directly to the smtp server of the recipient. DNS appears to work properly but postfix does not seem to use it. I do not run postfix ch rooted. Is that a recuirement? Does SuSE version matter to run postfix? Like in suse 9.0 postfix does not use dns or hosts or named or resolv.conf or ns switch.conf or named . But suse 9.3 or higher postfix does us all of the aforementioned? Any suggestions in using the speedtouch 510 adsl modem for my dedicated adsl connection? Any helpful suggestions are greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Peter Thesing

Sandy Drobic

12:05

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peter thesing wrote:

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(Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again)

Please post /etc/postfix/master.cf (without the comments) and the output of the command "postconf -n".

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clearly hotmail.com can be found, but not by postfix

Is the postfix server also the gateway for your internet connection or is the connection provided by another server/router? Sometimes it happens that postfix needs to refresh its configuration when your internet connection has changed. Especially if your /etc/resolv.conf is changed by dhcp. What is the content of /var/lib/postfix/etc/resolv.conf, if it exists? If you stop and start postfix, what messages appear in the logs?

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What and where and how do i need to modify to enable postfix to find hotmail?

Do you have problems with any outside host or only with hotmail.com?

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If at all possible i do not want the smtp server from my ISP as a smart host. I have read somewhere that postfix is able to send a message directly to the smtp server of the recipient.

That is the default setting. Please be aware that some servers, especially those of big ISPs, will refuse to accept mail directly from your server if you are behind a dialup connection without a static ip.

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DNS appears to work properly but postfix does not seem to use it. I do not run postfix ch rooted. Is that a recuirement?

No, but I suspect that you DO run postfix chrooted, so please post master.cf to clear up that point.

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Does SuSE version matter to run postfix? Like in suse 9.0 postfix does not use dns or hosts or named or resolv.conf or ns switch.conf or named

No, postfix definitely needs host resolution.

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. But suse 9.3 or higher postfix does us all of the aforementioned?

Yes, postfix provides much more that those basic requirements. (^-^) Sandy

Jeffrey L. Taylor

13:57

New subject: [SLE] postfix unable to find e.g. hotmail.com

Quoting peter thesing :

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Hi

Thru the tutorial i have setup webcyradmin, postfix and Cyrus as mail components. Without any problem i can send emails to the defined users in the domains i have specified in webcyradmin. However if i want to send an email to my hotmail account i get the following entry in the mail log. Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/qmgr[27116]: EB2F255BE8: from=, size=575, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtp[27202]: EB2F255BE8: to=, relay=none, delay=1, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtpd[27175]: disconnect from celeron.prive.web[10.0.0.157]

and the mail is not delivered

Postfix does not deal with the main address, only the Mail eXchangher (MX) addresses, so the relevant queries are: host -t mx hotmail.com dig hotmail.com mx HTH, Jeffrey

peter thesing

13 Jun 13 Jun

22:27

New subject: [SLE] postfix unable to find e.g. hotmail.com

Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

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Quoting peter thesing :

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Hi

Thru the tutorial i have setup webcyradmin, postfix and Cyrus as mail components. Without any problem i can send emails to the defined users in the domains i have specified in webcyradmin. However if i want to send an email to my hotmail account i get the following entry in the mail log. Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/qmgr[27116]: EB2F255BE8: from=, size=575, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtp[27202]: EB2F255BE8: to=, relay=none, delay=1, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtpd[27175]: disconnect from celeron.prive.web[10.0.0.157]

and the mail is not delivered

Postfix does not deal with the main address, only the Mail eXchangher (MX) addresses, so the relevant queries are:

host -t mx hotmail.com

dig hotmail.com mx

HTH, Jeffrey

peter:/etc/postfix # host -t mx hotmail.com Host hotmail.com not found: 4(NOTIMP) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1035.html ok thank for your reply DNS is not working properly i suppose How do i solve this one Thanks Peter

Ciro Iriarte

14 Jun 14 Jun

04:26

New subject: [SLE] postfix unable to find e.g. hotmail.com

2005/6/13, peter thesing :

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Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

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Quoting peter thesing :

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Hi

Thru the tutorial i have setup webcyradmin, postfix and Cyrus as mail components. Without any problem i can send emails to the defined users in the domains i have specified in webcyradmin. However if i want to send an email to my hotmail account i get the following entry in the mail log. Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/qmgr[27116]: EB2F255BE8: from=, size=575, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtp[27202]: EB2F255BE8: to=, relay=none, delay=1, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again) Jun 12 13:08:28 peter postfix/smtpd[27175]: disconnect from celeron.prive.web[10.0.0.157]

and the mail is not delivered

Postfix does not deal with the main address, only the Mail eXchangher (MX) addresses, so the relevant queries are:

host -t mx hotmail.com

dig hotmail.com mx

HTH, Jeffrey

peter:/etc/postfix # host -t mx hotmail.com Host hotmail.com not found: 4(NOTIMP)

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1035.html

ok thank for your reply

DNS is not working properly i suppose

How do i solve this one

Thanks

Peter

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Hans du Plooy

12 Jun 12 Jun

19:14

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On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 15:11 +0200, peter thesing wrote:

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to=, relay=none, delay=1, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again)

check in /etc/postfix/main.cf that disable_dns_lookups is set to "no" -- Kind Regards Hans du Plooy SagacIT (Pty) Ltd hansdp at sagacit dot com

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peter thesing
Sandy Drobic
Sid Boyce