-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-05-25 at 07:24 -0500, Jim Flanagan wrote:

Which browser are you using? If you use firefox you can install the plugin "noscript". It stops/blocks all scripts from running on all pages. This will prevent any scripting from running by default. You can selectively let each script run on a page, or let all scripts run on a particular domain, for example. Lots control over each page.

Firefoxx 2 something. I just downloaded "Flashblock" (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433#support). Clicking there donwloads a "flashblock-1.5.6-fx.xpi" file, but I have no idea what to do to install the thing. No instructions that I can see on the mozilla site. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIOWEOtTMYHG2NR9URAtrKAJ4ocHCULz7P1GClZRuBKYXfsOo4/gCdGQEU zmv+v4PnYclvu23I+4/mG7g= =8y+P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Sunday 2008-05-25 at 07:24 -0500, Jim Flanagan wrote:

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Which browser are you using? If you use firefox you can install the plugin "noscript". It stops/blocks all scripts from running on all pages. This will prevent any scripting from running by default. You can selectively let each script run on a page, or let all scripts run on a particular domain, for example. Lots control over each page.

Firefoxx 2 something.

I just downloaded "Flashblock" (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433#support). Clicking there donwloads a "flashblock-1.5.6-fx.xpi" file, but I have no idea what to do to install the thing. No instructions that I can see on the mozilla site.

To install plugins or themes in Firefox, go to Tools>Add Ons, select Extentions at the top, and click the "Get Themes" little blue words down at the bottom right. That will bring up a web page, once there search for your plugin, you install it from there. After that, make sure you select us extension. You usually have to restart Firefox for it to work. Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 25 May 2008 09:25:35 am Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Sunday 2008-05-25 at 08:05 -0500, Jim Flanagan wrote:

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I just downloaded "Flashblock" (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433#support). Clicking there donwloads a "flashblock-1.5.6-fx.xpi" file, but I have no idea what to do to install the thing. No instructions that I can see on the mozilla site.

To install plugins or themes in Firefox, go to Tools>Add Ons, select Extentions at the top, and click the "Get Themes"

"Get Extensions" ;-)

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little blue words down at the bottom right. That will bring up a web page, once there search for your plugin, you install it from there. After that, make sure you select us extension. You usually have to restart Firefox for it to work.

That's precisely what I did. But when I clicked on the extension I wanted, it downloaded the file instead, there was no option to install. I had to browse to the local file (file:///path/file.xpi), click and install.

Somehow you managed to hide your Firefox identity on mozilla page?! ;-) In Konqueror you can see only "Download Now" button, but in Firefox it will be "Add to Firefox". -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I have it installed now, seem wonderfull. :-)

- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

If you ever decide that you don't like FlashBlock then I also recommend NoScript. NoScript http://noscript.net/ Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 25 May 2008 13:13, John Andersen wrote:

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The problem with all these things is that they tend to mess up pages, and some sites won't work at all till you remember they are installed and allow the site. Then you get all of the crappy flash animations contending for resources.

I agree as far as the various script-blocking approaches, but Flashblock seems not to suffer from these problems. I've never seen it mess up page layout, 'cause the placeholder with the "play now" icon / button that it substitutes always matches the size of the flash animation itself. Even when they're pretty small, it works well.

I think someone has to hack Flash itself to have it load and then go dead, until you click each specific animation.

Flash isn't open-source, is it? I suppose it's not inconceivable that Adobe could be convinced to add such an option, but I think it's pretty unlikely. Every commercial Flash author would howl their disapproval, and they're the ones paying for Flash authoring software, much of it from Adobe themselves.

I still have several machines on which I refuse to install flash for this very reason.

I can see having a class of machine for which it was banned, but for a general-use machine on which you're going to browse the web extensively, it would be very limiting to be completely without Flash.

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On Sunday 25 May 2008 15:49, Jim Henderson wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2008 13:32:04 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Flash isn't open-source, is it?

Flash is a file format, and Adobe was recently in the news with their "Open Screen Project" which includes an opening of the flash specifications to the public.

Well, that's a good thing, but realistically there won't be a fully featured (and / or bug-compatible) open-source implementation comparable to Adobe's for a least a few years.

See http://tinyurl.com/4ysexy for details from Adobe's press release.

Jim

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On Sunday 25 May 2008 17:03, Jim Henderson wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2008 15:55:54 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Flash is a file format, and Adobe was recently in the news with their "Open Screen Project" which includes an opening of the flash specifications to the public.

Well, that's a good thing, but realistically there won't be a fully featured (and / or bug-compatible) open-source implementation comparable to Adobe's for a least a few years.

Try looking at the gnash GNU project - it's not a full implementation of the flash spec, but it's not bad. With the opening of the format, they probably will be able to finish the implementation in fairly short time, if it's still actively being developed.

Well, I'm not allergic to commercial software, and I'm not dissatisfied with Flash, given that I have Flashblock. If the open-source folks can do everything Adobe's software does and more (or better), then I'll take note, otherwise, there's no reason to demand open-source when there's $free$ software that does what one needs (assuming there are no other onerous aspects, of course).

Jim

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Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Sunday 25 May 2008 17:03, Jim Henderson wrote:

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On Sun, 25 May 2008 15:55:54 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Flash is a file format, and Adobe was recently in the news with their "Open Screen Project" which includes an opening of the flash specifications to the public.

Well, that's a good thing, but realistically there won't be a fully featured (and / or bug-compatible) open-source implementation comparable to Adobe's for a least a few years.

Try looking at the gnash GNU project - it's not a full implementation of the flash spec, but it's not bad. With the opening of the format, they probably will be able to finish the implementation in fairly short time, if it's still actively being developed.

Well, I'm not allergic to commercial software, and I'm not dissatisfied with Flash, given that I have Flashblock.

If the open-source folks can do everything Adobe's software does and more (or better), then I'll take note, otherwise, there's no reason to demand open-source when there's $free$ software that does what one needs (assuming there are no other onerous aspects, of course).

Well, there is Silverlight, which Microsoft is developing to deploy .Net to the web, partially to usurp Flash, which I think it can already do, or at least do the same things (and more). Opensource of Silverlight is Moonlight. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, 26 May 2008 01:33:59 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Flash is a file format, and Adobe was recently in the news with their "Open Screen Project" which includes an opening of the flash specifications to the public.

That will be very interesting to see, some day!

Agreed, interested in seeing how things like gnash and swftools evolve as a result. Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-05-25 at 13:13 -0700, John Andersen wrote:

The problem with all these things is that they tend to mess up pages, and some sites won't work at all till you remember they are installed and allow the site. Then you get all of the crappy flash animations contending for resources.

Flashblock works nicely so far. You get a box of the same size and position of each animation of the page, with an arrow to click and load the animation if you want, one by one. Once an animation is started, you can't stop it. A hint on the mouse pointer indicates where it comes from and it helps to guess if you want to load it or not.

I think someone has to hack Flash itself to have it load and then go dead, until you click each specific animation.

I'd like a general button to un/freeze all animations on a page, and then click to go ahead on each one.

I still have several machines on which I refuse to install flash for this very reason.

Try this flashblock, it is good. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIOfq2tTMYHG2NR9URAjvHAJ41V6FI/VWZBaGvv83X3Tnb2tzE/QCfVZIA ZTjnrplVhppSbd2XKE9AQR4= =C7Dq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org