C Hamel wrote:

On Tuesday 08 June 2004 10:40, LeRoy DeVries wrote:

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I currently am using Suse 9.1 on a separate laptop. Now that I've become somewhat familiar with the product I am ready to install on my WIN XP machine. My question is how can I install SUSE on the XP machine. Do I have to start from scratch and create a dual boot or will SUSE see the XP and create it for me?

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Can I install some XP applications on the Linux machine and use Wine or similar product to read the windows app.

I used Partition Magic to create my empty space because I wanted more than SuSE was going to give me... but SuSE installation will do it for you, yes. You might run chkdsk /f before doing so, just to make sure you have no later problems.

IF YOU WANT TO RESIZE THE WINDOZE NTFS PARTITION THEN IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM SHOULD YOU PERFORM THE ABOVE!!! There is a known issue with Suse 9.1, MDK10.0 and Feodora2 (ie the 2.6 kernel) and writing to the partition table see: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html for more details. You have a great FREE solution though (don't give money away if you don't need to), provided you are not to fussed with the command line. RIP: http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ I had problems with lots of things hanging on boot when trying to install on my wife's laptop, but RIP was perfect. You need something with the latest version of ntfsprogs (1.9.2) and a 2.4 kernel. If it boots it will work. ntfsresize will probably give you MORE space than partition magic, certainly not less. It kicks butt. Unfortunately knoppix has the old version... Cheers Antoine ps. I am knew to this list but I know THAT YOU SHOULD REMOVE YOUR REPLY-TO! It is damned annoying! ;-)

What Reply-To? This list doesn't set Reply-To, and nor had the person to whom you were replying.

John

Sorry, I've been on quite a few lists and this is the first that doesn't set reply-to, I just assumed. I shan't in future. Sorry again, Antoine ps. Is there an explanation of why no reply-to is set? I can't imagine why any list would not use it. Cheers.

On Tuesday 08 June 2004 04:31 pm, antoine wrote:

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What Reply-To? This list doesn't set Reply-To, and nor had the person to whom you were replying.

John

Sorry, I've been on quite a few lists and this is the first that doesn't set reply-to, I just assumed. I shan't in future. Sorry again, Antoine ps. Is there an explanation of why no reply-to is set? I can't imagine why any list would not use it. Cheers.

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Anders Johansson wrote:

On Tuesday 08 June 2004 20.19, antoine wrote:

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IF YOU WANT TO RESIZE THE WINDOZE NTFS PARTITION THEN IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM SHOULD YOU PERFORM THE ABOVE!!!

You seem to have your caps lock on. Please disable it.

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There is a known issue with Suse 9.1, MDK10.0 and Feodora2 (ie the 2.6 kernel) and writing to the partition table see:

And this affects partitioning with Partition Magic how exactly? I wasn't aware that PM ran on a 2.6 kernel

The person wanted to install linux on a box with winXP. Very probably ExsPee has taken all the available space. Very probably it is formatted in NTFS. In order to take back the free space on one or more of the NTFS partitions a tool is needed. If there is only one partition that cannot be done from inside windows. I have heard that the xp installer often does not take back very much space, if it can at all. So you need something like PartitionMagic, or ntfsprogs. You have to pay for PartitionMagic, you do not have to pay for ntfsprogs. The Suse 9.1 installer has ntfsprogs but is also running a 2.6 kernel so you should NOT use it. Many people have had problems with corrupted partition tables. RIP has the latest ntfsprogs and a 2.4 kernel. You can use RIP to resize your NTFS partition. It will move files, which distros with the old ntfsprogs will not. This often a problem because the swap file is often located in space you want to reclaim. This is the situation with Suse 9.0's ntfsprogs, which can't move files. Download RIP and burn it to disk. Run it and resize your partition(s), carefully following the instructions. Then install Suse 9.1 without problems. Or buy PartitionMagic. Cheers Antoine

Just downloaded RIP..but see kernel 2.6 and not 2.4..any suggestions please..

The bootable CD image `RIP-9.0.iso.bin' can be written to a CD/DVD disk, using cdrecord/dvdrecord etc.

The 2.6.5 kernel has IDE, SCSI and SATA support. The kernel also has PCMCIA, LVM2, RAID, and Ethernet/cable/dsl/ppp/pppoe networking support.

Thanks

Alas, Antoine talking out his arse again. I didn't see any warning on http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#example and just assumed that it was 2.4 after reading various discussions about the place saying that 2.6 was the problem. I had no problems with it, and it did a fantastic job but having read what I have I can no longer be certain that it won't do something nasty to you... In this case I would suggest http://www.sysresccd.org/ Which does indeed have a 2.4 (2.4.26), and the latest ntfsprogs (1.9.2, which will do everything except clean your toilet). Note, it wouldn't boot on the laptop I was trying to fix, but then again neither did MDK. Thousand apologies Antoine ps, Don't pay for PM just yet!!!

On Tuesday 08 June 2004 23:52, Johan Sch wrote: FJW> You see I am going to buy a laptop sometime..but they come with win-xp loaded. FJW> Some have no floppy drives..I have PM..but use the 2 rescue floppy's which work nice. FJW> But no floppy drive then need something on cd. Could load PM on laptop system..but I do not think that you can resize the partition if it is live??? FJW> Regards FJW> -- FJW> Johan Sch FJW> May this be a good day for learning FJW> Registered Linux User #330034 FJW> You can boot with the PM CD, and then do your magic. -- Frits Wüthrich

In the Windoze world, I use an FTP client called Cute-FTP Pro. IMO, it is, hands down, the best FTP client for web work. You can edit files directly from the file listing window (which then uploads the file if changes are made), has color-coded HTML tags, support for multi-connection FTP transfers, macros, scripts, you name it, it has it. Right now, I'm using gftp. It seems to work pretty well, but after CuteFTP Pro, I feel crippled (to edit a file on our web servers, I have to download it to ~/temp, open a shell prompt, pico it, re-upload it... Anyone have any suggestions for a relative Linux noob as to "THE" web editor/ftp client combination to run? (and, is it readily available via RPM for SuSE 9.1?) TIA! Steve Kratz

In a previous message, "Steve Kratz" wrote:

Anyone have any suggestions for a relative Linux noob as to "THE" web editor/ftp client combination to run? (and, is it readily available via RPM for SuSE 9.1?)

Never heard of one, I'm afraid. Just use whichever ftp client you like (gFTP is nice; there's also kBear, which takes a slightly different approach to the GUI) and whichever HTML editor you like (I use Bluefish, but there's also Quanta and Mozilla Composer, among others). All these are available on the distro discs. This will be slightly more awkward for you at first (although only for small edits, surely). However, it does mean that you will end up with a more capable HTML editor, so you should benefit overall. Also, it's better practice IMO to work on a full local copy of your site and then upload it only once you're sure it's right (avoids problems like broken links while you work on a site). Also, working only on the remote copy means that you have no backups in case of server failure (unless I'm misunderstanding how CuteFTP works). John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies!

Well, I agree for major changes, but the place I work maintains hundreds of websites - most of the changes from customers are of the type, "Please change the email link on my front page to blah@somewhere.com" - I do make local backups for "major" changes :) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Fieldsend [mailto:r.fieldsend@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:08 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Is there a "really good" FTP client for SuSE? Steve, the answer (as so often) is to use Emacs! It allows you to ftp to the server and edit the files, handling the saving to the remote server automatically. You can also use a whole range of different editing modes so that you can support html, xml, LaTeX, php, Perl etc etc. If you connect to the directory you can list the files as well, allowing you to mark files for deletion, moving or whatever. To do this, just open Emacs and then C-x f for 'find file', then enter the path /username@servername:/ and hit return. You'll be asked for your password (associated with the username you've used). You'll get the appropriate directory, and can navigate the directory structure from there. A file can then be opened by selecting, and hitting return. Agree with whoever it was that said you really need to have a localised version for testing before uploading though. Take Care Richard --- Steve Kratz wrote: > In the Windoze world, I use an FTP client called

Cute-FTP Pro. IMO, it is, hands down, the best FTP client for web work. You can edit files directly from the file listing window (which then uploads the file if changes are made), has color-coded HTML tags, support for multi-connection FTP transfers, macros, scripts, you name it, it has it.

Right now, I'm using gftp. It seems to work pretty well, but after CuteFTP Pro, I feel crippled (to edit a file on our web servers, I have to download it to ~/temp, open a shell prompt, pico it, re-upload it...

Anyone have any suggestions for a relative Linux noob as to "THE" web editor/ftp client combination to run? (and, is it readily available via RPM for SuSE 9.1?)

TIA!

Steve Kratz

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Steve... Personaly I agree with a preveous poster, working directly on an ftp client is not a good solution. Maybe it was the best you had in windows, but please load sitecopy from the SuSE 9.1 CD's. What this does is synchronize your "local" stie with a remote site. It has all the necesary features to hanlde the process very gracefully. What I do is have a "local", copy of the site on my work machine (actually local server), I modify and cahnge and test with any/all tools. Then, when I'm happy with the changes, I update the real site with a single click of a button. sitecopy finds all files that where modified, renamed and deleted, and does thoose changes on the remote site, using fttp, webdav, or HTTP protocolls. It's also very easy to get started in that it'll download the entire site to your local site, (takes a couple of clicks)... I think that the 4 hours of you time learning the program will be well worth your time... Jerry On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 16:42, Steve Kratz wrote:

In the Windoze world, I use an FTP client called Cute-FTP Pro. IMO, it is, hands down, the best FTP client for web work. You can edit files directly from the file listing window (which then uploads the file if changes are made), has color-coded HTML tags, support for multi-connection FTP transfers, macros, scripts, you name it, it has it.

Right now, I'm using gftp. It seems to work pretty well, but after CuteFTP Pro, I feel crippled (to edit a file on our web servers, I have to download it to ~/temp, open a shell prompt, pico it, re-upload it...

Anyone have any suggestions for a relative Linux noob as to "THE" web editor/ftp client combination to run? (and, is it readily available via RPM for SuSE 9.1?)

TIA!

Steve Kratz

-----Original Message----- From: Sjoerd Hiemstra [mailto:penguinista.frisiana144@freeler.nl] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:16 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Is there a "really good" FTP client for SuSE? Steve Kratz wrote:

In the Windoze world, I use an FTP client called Cute-FTP Pro. IMO, it is, hands down, the best FTP client for web work. You can edit files directly from the file listing window (which then uploads the file if changes are made), has color-coded HTML tags, support for multi-connection FTP transfers, macros, scripts, you name it, it has it. <snip> Anyone have any suggestions for a relative Linux noob as to "THE" web editor/ftp client combination to run? (and, is it readily available via RPM for SuSE 9.1?)

Although I personally prefer to have a local copy of the site, edit a file with quanta and upload it with gftp, in KDE there is a way to edit and save files on the server as if they were local files. It is all explained here... http://www.newtolinux.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Managing%20web%20sites S.H. Thank You!!! That page made my day! I never knew Kate would open files directly from an FTP site! (Doing web site tech-support work just got a TON easier for me!) Now, is there a way to open a file list from a server you typically only have SSH access to? There are datafiles we have to edit all the time on a server with SSH and web services running only - no ftp. Thanks again! Steve

I'll take a look at sitecopy sometime... It's just that the way our cluster is configured (850+ web sites all set up as virtual servers) seems a little intimidating if something goes wrong :) Us techs use one logon to get to the entire cluster, and if it tried to synch a local copy of all that, we'd need about 2 terrabytes on our desktops! -----Original Message----- From: Jerome R. Westrick [mailto:jerry@westrick.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:01 PM To: Suse Users Subject: RE: [SLE] Is there a "really good" FTP client for SuSE? On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 19:25, Steve Kratz wrote: <snip>

Now, is there a way to open a file list from a server you typically only have SSH access to? There are datafiles we have to edit all the time on a server with SSH and web services running only - no ftp.

Thanks again!

Steve

Use fish://<user>@<hostname> instead of ftp://<user>@<hostname> BTW you might want to try smb://<hostname>/<share> to get to a windows machine in your network.. Oh, and while your playing around with this stuff, you might just try entering any of the above in the Konqueror, (Linux Explorer). They work there also... I still think you should spend 4 hours on sitecopy though, trust me you won't reget it! Jerry -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com -----Original Message----- From: Jerome R. Westrick [mailto:jerry@westrick.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 6:01 PM To: Suse Users Subject: RE: [SLE] Is there a "really good" FTP client for SuSE? On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 19:25, Steve Kratz wrote: <snip>

Now, is there a way to open a file list from a server you typically only have SSH access to? There are datafiles we have to edit all the time on a server with SSH and web services running only - no ftp.

Thanks again!

Steve

Use fish://<user>@<hostname> instead of ftp://<user>@<hostname> BTW you might want to try smb://<hostname>/<share> to get to a windows machine in your network.. Oh, and while your playing around with this stuff, you might just try entering any of the above in the Konqueror, (Linux Explorer). They work there also... I still think you should spend 4 hours on sitecopy though, trust me you won't reget it! Jerry -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 10:42, Steve Kratz wrote:

In the Windoze world, I use an FTP client called Cute-FTP Pro. IMO, it is, hands down, the best FTP client for web work. You can edit files directly [...]

Well no so windowish but, very good stuff: ncftp and emasc. Cheers, Jul.

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 06:17, antoine wrote: [snip]

Alas, Antoine talking out his arse again. I didn't see any warning on http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#example and just assumed that it was 2.4 after reading various discussions about the place saying that 2.6 was the problem. I had no problems with it, and it did a fantastic job but having read what I have I can no longer be certain that it won't do something nasty to you...

So 2.6 did a "fantastic job" for you, and you "had no problems with it", but still you scare us not to use it because you did read somewhere(?) that someone(?) had a problem with it. May be we should even go back to 2.2 because I remember that I did read somewhere that someone had a problem with it. But, if I think about it, maybe 2.0 is better, or 1.0, I did not find anyone reporting problems about 1.0 and NTFS. hmmm... Regards, Matt PS. How about making a backup, and then jumping into the water ;-)

On Tuesday 08 June 2004 13:19, antoine wrote:

C Hamel wrote:

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On Tuesday 08 June 2004 10:40, LeRoy DeVries wrote:

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I currently am using Suse 9.1 on a separate laptop. Now that I've become somewhat familiar with the product I am ready to install on my WIN XP machine. My question is how can I install SUSE on the XP machine. Do I have to start from scratch and create a dual boot or will SUSE see the XP and create it for me?

or...

Can I install some XP applications on the Linux machine and use Wine or similar product to read the windows app.

I used Partition Magic to create my empty space because I wanted more than SuSE was going to give me... but SuSE installation will do it for you, yes. You might run chkdsk /f before doing so, just to make sure you have no later problems.

IF YOU WANT TO RESIZE THE WINDOZE NTFS PARTITION THEN IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM SHOULD YOU PERFORM THE ABOVE!!! There is a known issue with Suse 9.1, MDK10.0 and Feodora2 (ie the 2.6 kernel) and writing to the partition table see: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html for more details. You have a great FREE solution though (don't give money away if you don't need to), provided you are not to fussed with the command line. RIP: http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ I had problems with lots of things hanging on boot when trying to install on my wife's laptop, but RIP was perfect. You need something with the latest version of ntfsprogs (1.9.2) and a 2.4 kernel. If it boots it will work.

ntfsresize will probably give you MORE space than partition magic, certainly not less. It kicks butt. Unfortunately knoppix has the old version...

Cheers Antoine ps. I am knew to this list but I know THAT YOU SHOULD REMOVE YOUR REPLY-TO! It is damned annoying! ;-)

I never said it would work for everyone... I only know it worked for me. <G> All caps. Ouch. -- ...CH SuSE 9 Works Linux user# 313696 Linux box# 199365

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