[opensuse] 12.1 to 12.2 kmail import/export
Are preparing for a functioning 12.2 beta1 and would like to transfer my KMail2 data and settings to 12.2. Had a look at the import function but lost my way. For KMail it mentions "Import KMail Maildirs and Folders structure" Where can I find the KMail2 from the 12.1? With the old KMail it was very easy but with the new KMail2 it is mainly guesswork. Is there some manual or wiki for such a transfer? -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 12.2 Beta 1 (i586) Kernel: 3.4.0-2-default KDE Development Platform: 4.8.3 (4.8.3)) 13:43pm up 0:10, 3 users, load average: 1.38, 1.52, 1.10 -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 12.1 (i586) Kernel: 3.4.0-26-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.8.3 (4.8.3) "release 504") 16:43pm up 0:12, 3 users, load average: 1.37, 2.40, 1.97 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want? CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml
I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want?
You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again. Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again.
Sounds like Darwinism in action. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:09 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want? You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again.
I use Evolution all day every day on 12.1 and it is solid and fast. Have been using it for a decade. What on earth does "can not even find the mail folders anywhere" even mean?
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 08:15 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:09 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want? You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again.
I use Evolution all day every day on 12.1 and it is solid and fast. Have been using it for a decade.
Do you have any GNOME update repositories enabled? The machine in question is one I use just for seeing what happens when I use the current release of things in OBS. Not factory. But stable repos that can contain things that are newer than in the distro. I suspect some update there caused a problem. The odd thing is that when I start evolution from the command line I do not get a complaint. Just a shiny new prompt. Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:29 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 08:15 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:09 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want? You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again.
I use Evolution all day every day on 12.1 and it is solid and fast. Have been using it for a decade.
Do you have any GNOME update repositories enabled?
Nope. awilliam@linux-nysu:~> zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+--------------------+----------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | erlang | erlang | Yes | No 2 | packman-essentials | packman-essentials | Yes | Yes 3 | packman-multimedia | packman-multimedia | Yes | Yes 4 | repo-debug | openSUSE-12.1-Debug | No | Yes 5 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update-Debug | No | Yes 6 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes 7 | repo-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Oss | Yes | Yes 8 | repo-source | openSUSE-12.1-Source | No | Yes 9 | repo-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update | Yes | Yes
The machine in question is one I use just for seeing what happens when I use the current release of things in OBS. Not factory. But stable repos that can contain things that are newer than in the distro. I suspect some update there caused a problem. The odd thing is that when I start evolution from the command line I do not get a complaint. Just a shiny new prompt.
That is normal if evolution is already running. Perhaps it is already running? ps -C evolution
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:55 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Do you have any GNOME update repositories enabled?
Nope.
awilliam@linux-nysu:~> zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+--------------------+----------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | erlang | erlang | Yes | No 2 | packman-essentials | packman-essentials | Yes | Yes 3 | packman-multimedia | packman-multimedia | Yes | Yes 4 | repo-debug | openSUSE-12.1-Debug | No | Yes 5 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update-Debug | No | Yes 6 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes 7 | repo-oss | openSUSE-12.1-Oss | Yes | Yes 8 | repo-source | openSUSE-12.1-Source | No | Yes 9 | repo-update | openSUSE-12.1-Update | Yes | Yes
As I suspected. I guess some repo update has caused a problem. I usually wait a bit before 'complaining' and the issues are usually noted and corrected. Usually it is a matter of some other component in OBS also being updated. But this one has been a couple weeks. So I need to take a closer look. The up side is it gets me to explore other mail readers that I might not have otherwise done.
That is normal if evolution is already running. Perhaps it is already running?
Not running. I only tried the command line because when I clicked in the ICON I only got a bouncing ICON show. Fun if I was a cat... Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:09 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml
I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want?
You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again.
The sources for older better versions do exist online. In Ubuntu 10.4 Evolution 2.28 works and still uses mbox format. Now its something called XDG and everything seems scattered to the winds. CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:39 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:09 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml
I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want?
You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again.
The sources for older better versions do exist online. In Ubuntu 10.4 Evolution 2.28 works and still uses mbox format. Now its something called XDG and everything seems scattered to the winds.
Just wish it could be a reader for MS Mail. Our company uses the latest MS protocol (can never remember what it is called), and have disabled pop and the owa interface. I have to use my browser to access the company mail system. Unless I go totally mad and use Windows... Only my Mac at home has this sorted. Maybe the reorganization is in preparation for adding more functionality? Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 08:28 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:09 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want? You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again. The sources for older better versions do exist online. In Ubuntu 10.4 Evolution 2.28 works and still uses mbox format. Now its something called XDG and everything seems scattered to the winds. Just wish it could be a reader for MS Mail. Our company uses the latest MS protocol (can never remember what it is called), and have disabled
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:39 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote: pop and the owa interface. I have to use my browser to access the company mail system. Unless I go totally mad and use Windows... Only my Mac at home has this sorted. Maybe the reorganization is in preparation for adding more functionality?
Massive, yes. The improvements are coming fast and furious in the very latest builds. Check out evolution-list@ and evolution-hackers@ lists; there is some really exciting stuff. Account management, HTML messages, improved composer, just lots of great stuff coming down. Just discovered that I already have powerful new template support https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641845 - still have to try that out. Sorry, I don't know anything about exchange connectivity. Other than what I read - which is that it is a bit messy with three different backends. There has been chatter on evolution-hackers@ about this in the last few days. https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/ https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/ Specifically some stuff on evolution-exchange https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2012-June/msg00000.html
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:39 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:09 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 15:41 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/previous.shtml I have read the reviews and the way it works is junk I can not even find the mail folders anywhere. How do I upgrade to an earlier and IMO better version of Evolution which works as I want? You have a working evolution on 12.1? Mine stopped working a month or so ago. I have been using Thunderbird while waiting for evolution to revive. I would like evolution again. The sources for older better versions do exist online. In Ubuntu 10.4 Evolution 2.28 works and still uses mbox format. Now its something called XDG and everything seems scattered to the winds.
"something called XDG"... seriously? It is much improved and that "something" is a standard for applications storing data. I wouldn't go back to 2.2x for anything.
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 09:09 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 09:39 -0700, Carl Spitzer wrote:
The sources for older better versions do exist online. In Ubuntu 10.4 Evolution 2.28 works and still uses mbox format. Now its something called XDG and everything seems scattered to the winds.
"something called XDG"... seriously? It is much improved and that "something" is a standard for applications storing data.
I wouldn't go back to 2.2x for anything.
For the inconvience I will not downgrade to Evolution 3.x for anything. Mbox is the format of my archives so that I will use the rest is junk. CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2012, 17:19:47 schrieb Constant Brouerius van Nidek:
Are preparing for a functioning 12.2 beta1 and would like to transfer my KMail2 data and settings to 12.2. Had a look at the import function but lost my way. For KMail it mentions "Import KMail Maildirs and Folders structure" Where can I find the KMail2 from the 12.1? With the old KMail it was very easy but with the new KMail2 it is mainly guesswork.
What changed? The data, i.e. email is still in folders as well as the calendar etc. Kmail's config is still in KDE's config folder etc. Systemsettings > Personal Information > Akonadi lists all resources and you can check the paths they point to within your 12.1 installation. That's in fact easier than before, because in pre-akonadi kdepim those paths were not accessible via a GUI but just part of the kmailrc. In case you are still using the kdepim that came with 12.1 and did not update you might find the local folders not in ~/.local/share/local-mail but ~/.local/share/.local-mail.directory due to the maildir structure. So all you have to do with a "new" akonadi is point it to the data folders. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:17:27 PM Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2012, 17:19:47 schrieb Constant Brouerius van Nidek:
Are preparing for a functioning 12.2 beta1 and would like to transfer my KMail2 data and settings to 12.2. Had a look at the import function but lost my way. For KMail it mentions "Import KMail Maildirs and Folders structure" Where can I find the KMail2 from the 12.1? With the old KMail it was very easy but with the new KMail2 it is mainly guesswork.
What changed? The data, i.e. email is still in folders as well as the calendar etc. Kmail's config is still in KDE's config folder etc.
Systemsettings > Personal Information > Akonadi lists all resources and you can check the paths they point to within your 12.1 installation. That's in fact easier than before, because in pre-akonadi kdepim those paths were not accessible via a GUI but just part of the kmailrc.
In case you are still using the kdepim that came with 12.1 and did not update you might find the local folders not in ~/.local/share/local-mail but ~/.local/share/.local-mail.directory due to the maildir structure.
So all you have to do with a "new" akonadi is point it to the data folders.
Dear Sven, Akonadi at my 12.1 KDE release 504 does not show anything at all. And although I have updated up to today, my local folders are found under ~/.local/share/.local-mail.directory.. Will transfer all KMail2 data to 12.2 beta 1 and see what happens. Will copy things like kmailrc and such direct over the existing new kmail setup. Assume that that will not give me additional problems. -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 12.1 (i586) Kernel: 3.4.1-27-default KDE Development Platform: 4.8.3 (4.8.3) "release 504") 12:37pm up 13:01, 4 users, load average: 1.29, 0.70, 0.58 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, 12:45:14 schrieb Constant Brouerius van Nidek:
Akonadi at my 12.1 KDE release 504 does not show anything at all.
I'll leave the conclusion to you what it would mean if this statement is correct and akonadi does not show any resources.
And although I have updated up to today, my local folders are found under ~/.local/share/.local-mail.directory..
Because you started with the 12.1 version and akonadi does not just move folders around? But how come you see data if akonadi does not have any resources listed? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, June 08, 2012 10:08:33 AM Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Freitag, 8. Juni 2012, 12:45:14 schrieb Constant Brouerius van Nidek:
Akonadi at my 12.1 KDE release 504 does not show anything at all.
I'll leave the conclusion to you what it would mean if this statement is correct and akonadi does not show any resources.
And although I have updated up to today, my local folders are found under ~/.local/share/.local-mail.directory..
Because you started with the 12.1 version and akonadi does not just move folders around? But how come you see data if akonadi does not have any resources listed?
Sven
No idea. Where and how could I find more out about it. E.g. with Akonadictl status I get following: Akonadi Control: running Akonadi Server: running Akonadi Server Search Support: not available Seems to run and KMail needs it every time so what is up? -- Linux User 183145 using KDE4 on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 12.1 (i586) Kernel: 3.4.1-27-default KDE Development Platform: 4.8.3 (4.8.3) "release 504") 15:26pm up 15:50, 4 users, load average: 0.67, 0.95, 1.01 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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