Hi, I am a Delphi Win32 programmer but I am very interested in Linux. However, I am even less than a beginner since (probably like everyone else who is new to Linux) I am flooded with information. Anyway, here's the point: I want to start using Linux for connecting to the internet and I need a mail client program to handle my e-mail. The problem is that since I use Windows to make money, I need to be able to get to my e-mail even in Windows too. So far I see two reasons why I can't do that: 1) I don't know whether there is a mail client foe both Windows and Linux that uses the same format to store e-mail. In Windows, I use Netscape Messenger but from what I learned from this list, the Linux version is more than unstable. Does anybody know about a mailing client which is able to do this? 2) Windows of course cannot access the Linux partitions so I would have to store the mail on Windows partitions. However, from what I see in the "ls -l" output, only root is allowed to write to these partitions. I don't quite want to be logged in as root whenever I want to check my mail. Can I overcome that somehow? It would be nice if I didn't have to connect to the internet in Linux without having to disconnect to boot to Windows. Internet connection is quite expensive here in post communist countries and longer connections are cheaper. All right, the very first moment I have some free time, I will start learning C and try to apply it in Linux. That will probably be the best way of learning the whole system... TIA Martin Jambor ------------------------ Martin Jambor Independent Developer JamborM@iname.com 0604/566 904 ------------------------ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Martin Jambor wrote:
Hi,
I am a Delphi Win32 programmer but I am very interested in Linux. However, I am even less than a beginner since (probably like everyone else who is new to Linux) I am flooded with information.
Anyway, here's the point: I want to start using Linux for connecting to the internet and I need a mail client program to handle my e-mail. The problem is that since I use Windows to make money, I need to be able to get to my e-mail even in Windows too. So far I see two reasons why I can't do that:
1) I don't know whether there is a mail client foe both Windows and Linux that uses the same format to store e-mail. In Windows, I use Netscape Messenger but from what I learned from this list, the Linux version is more than unstable. Does anybody know about a mailing client which is able to do this?
I believe pine stores mail in standard RFC822 format, and pine is very stable. I don't know about mutt (the storage format, not the stability ;-> ). Find a Windows mail program that sticks to standard formats, unfortunately I can't name any, since I haven't used Windows for a good long while.
2) Windows of course cannot access the Linux partitions so I would have to store the mail on Windows partitions. However, from what I see in the "ls -l" output, only root is allowed to write to these partitions. I don't quite want to be logged in as root whenever I want to check my mail. Can I overcome that somehow?
You can change the permissions for the Windows partitions. You need to edit the file /etc/fstab and look for the lines that apply to your Windows partitions. If you don't have a problem with all users of the system being able to access the Windows partitions (which they can do anyway through Windows, then do the following: 1. If you can see a part that says 'gid=', change the number after the '=' to the group number for users (usually 100 - see /etc/groups). If it isn't there, add it in ('gid=100'). 2. If you can see a part that says 'umask=', change the number after the '=' to 007. If it isn't there, add it in ('umask=007'). Before you do the above, you need to unmount the partitions you're editing using the command: umount <partition-name> After you've finished editing the above file, you need to remount again with the command: mount <partition-name> where <partition-name> is, in both cases, the mount-point of the partition that you are going to change. Repeat the above for each Windows partition.
It would be nice if I didn't have to connect to the internet in Linux without having to disconnect to boot to Windows. Internet connection is quite expensive here in post communist countries and longer connections are cheaper.
From what I understand, you want to stay connected to the Internet while you reboot your computer from Linux to Windows. Unfortunately, this is not possible with a modem.
All right, the very first moment I have some free time, I will start learning C and try to apply it in Linux. That will probably be the best way of learning the whole system...
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1) I don't know whether there is a mail client foe both Windows and Linux that uses the same format to store e-mail. In Windows, I use Netscape Messenger but from what I learned from this list, the Linux version is more than unstable. Does anybody know about a mailing client which is able to do this?
I believe pine stores mail in standard RFC822 format, and pine is very stable. I don't know about mutt (the storage format, not the stability ;-> ). Find a Windows mail program that sticks to standard formats, unfortunately I can't name any, since I haven't used Windows for a good long while.
Yes, Eudora Pro v3 uses standard mbox format for sure. If you copy your eudora *.mbx files to ~/Mail and run pine all your eudora mailboxes will be available (you can then of course rename them to lose the .mbx extension). I actually believe that Netscape does the same thing and stores mail in mbox format files so what I would suggest, as a first try, is make a symbolic link so that your netscape mail directory (presumably on a FAT or NTFS partition) becomes ~/Mail and then run pine. If it works well and you can read your mail then I would put your netscape mail folders on a FAT partition (as Linux Read/Write access is only experimental on NTFS folders) and share the folder. You may want to set up separate symbolic links for each folder in a genuine ~/Mail so that the names in pine look nicer. Good luck. Ian -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
Chris Reeves wrote:
Martin Jambor wrote:
Hi,
I am a Delphi Win32 programmer but I am very interested in Linux. However, I am even less than a beginner since (probably like everyone else who is new to Linux) I am flooded with information.
Anyway, here's the point: I want to start using Linux for connecting to the internet and I need a mail client program to handle my e-mail. The problem is that since I use Windows to make money, I need to be able to get to my e-mail even in Windows too. So far I see two reasons why I can't do that:
1) I don't know whether there is a mail client foe both Windows and Linux that uses the same format to store e-mail. In Windows, I use Netscape Messenger but from what I learned from this list, the Linux version is more than unstable. Does anybody know about a mailing client which is able to do this?
I believe pine stores mail in standard RFC822 format, and pine is very stable. I don't know about mutt (the storage format, not the stability ;-> ). Find a Windows mail program that sticks to standard formats, unfortunately I can't name any, since I haven't used Windows for a good long while.
Well, I was having a dig around on linux.davecentral.com and came across a program called Adora. It should be on this page somewhere: http://linux.davecentral.com/mailserve.html
2) Windows of course cannot access the Linux partitions so I would have to store the mail on Windows partitions. However, from what I see in the "ls -l" output, only root is allowed to write to these partitions. I don't quite want to be logged in as root whenever I want to check my mail. Can I overcome that somehow?
You can change the permissions for the Windows partitions. You need to edit the file /etc/fstab and look for the lines that apply to your Windows partitions. If you don't have a problem with all users of the system being able to access the Windows partitions (which they can do anyway through Windows, then do the following: 1. If you can see a part that says 'gid=', change the number after the '=' to the group number for users (usually 100 - see /etc/groups). If it isn't there, add it in ('gid=100'). 2. If you can see a part that says 'umask=', change the number after the '=' to 007. If it isn't there, add it in ('umask=007').
Before you do the above, you need to unmount the partitions you're editing using the command: umount <partition-name> After you've finished editing the above file, you need to remount again with the command: mount <partition-name> where <partition-name> is, in both cases, the mount-point of the partition that you are going to change. Repeat the above for each Windows partition.
It would be nice if I didn't have to connect to the internet in Linux without having to disconnect to boot to Windows. Internet connection is quite expensive here in post communist countries and longer connections are cheaper.
From what I understand, you want to stay connected to the Internet while you reboot your computer from Linux to Windows. Unfortunately, this is not possible with a modem.
All right, the very first moment I have some free time, I will start learning C and try to apply it in Linux. That will probably be the best way of learning the whole system...
Hope that helps some more, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq
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