[opensuse] Re: [OFF-LIST] retreat from TW to Leap 42.1 STATUS
On 2017-03-08 20:04, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 08/03/17 01:31 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-03-08 16:39, Anton Aylward wrote:
Well I have, after some vicissitudes battling with the result of using the42.1 installation DVD, a usable system. That was not happy.
Going to 42.1 you will find somethings too old. You should go to 42.2.
And too big a jump to go down from TW. Don't you have a backup of 13.1 or 13.2 to go UP instead?
I did not go down from TW, I installed in a new "partition" (==LV under LVM)
So, it is a fresh install of 42.1. I take it that you did not add ANY repository. Or did you?
I tried 42.2 before 4.1 and that was even more of a disaster.
If you have a *working* 13.2, clone it and upgrade it to 42.2, using the DVD. Ask me about repositories.
If I can stabilize 42.1 and overcome the cynicism I see on the list about 4.2. I might try upgrading ....later in the year.
You can not wait that long.
I've just finished battling with Wicked (and discarding it) and with NetWorkmanager (which I may in turn discard). I think I'm booting with properly assigned addresses. lets see if that's stable. I'm still trying to figure out how to stop NM from starting a DHCP server.
I can't imagine why it would start a dhcp server, unless it is a client daemon. A different thing.
No, its there in the unit file for Wicked. its a requirement.
I don't see any of that in the /usr/lib/systemd/system/wicked.service for 42.2.
If I manually edit the unit file removing that requirement it doesn't happen. (I love this text mode descriptive 'programming'!)
You should not do that at this stage.
Graphical login isn't working right. I've had to jury righ things to get yast to work at all to configure that. hey, this is weierd.
Trying to start YAST from the menu segfaults:
/sbin/yast2: line 440: 30032 Segmentation fault $y2ccbin $Y2UI_ARGS "$@"
You probably have mixed rpms.
Quite possibly. How do I debug the database?
Email this file: rpm -q -a --queryformat "%{INSTALLTIME}\t%{INSTALLTIME:day} \ %{BUILDTIME:day} %-30{NAME}\t%15{VERSION}-%-7{RELEASE}\t%{arch} \ %25{VENDOR}%25{PACKAGER} == %{DISTRIBUTION} %{DISTTAG}\n" \ | sort | cut --fields="2-" | tee rpmlist | less -S
with startx somethings do not work.
and your list is .... ?
I don't have a list. Without a login manager you do not have permission to access sound, usb sticks, etc. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 03/08/2017 12:03 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
If I can stabilize 42.1 and overcome the cynicism I see on the list about 4.2. I might try upgrading ....later in the year. You can not wait that long.
Sez Who. I turn my head and see a opensuse 10.2 humming happily in the corner. Its just a file server. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done.
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 21:03:26 +0100
"Carlos E. R."
On 2017-03-08 20:04, Anton Aylward wrote:
If I can stabilize 42.1 and overcome the cynicism I see on the list about 4.2. I might try upgrading ....later in the year.
You can not wait that long.
Any day is a day later than today. I've been running 42.1 for a while and am reasonably happy with it. But I'm becoming increasingly concerned by all the problems that people seem to be having with 42.2 and am somewhat concerned by thinking that I should upgrade sometime in the next two months or so. I hope there are signs of stability by then. Cheers, Dave PS I think I understand why Felix added [OFF-LIST] but why have others kept it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/08/2017 01:35 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
But I'm becoming increasingly concerned by all the problems that people seem to be having with 42.2
FTR: I have no particular problems with 42.2, and I was a fairly early adopter. I had the luxury of doing a clean install. (Or maybe I should say I made the choice to do a clean install since I was on 13.2). -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Dave Howorth
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 21:03:26 +0100 "Carlos E. R."
wrote: On 2017-03-08 20:04, Anton Aylward wrote:
If I can stabilize 42.1 and overcome the cynicism I see on the list about 4.2. I might try upgrading ....later in the year.
You can not wait that long.
Any day is a day later than today. I've been running 42.1 for a while and am reasonably happy with it. But I'm becoming increasingly concerned by all the problems that people seem to be having with 42.2 and am somewhat concerned by thinking that I should upgrade sometime in the next two months or so. I hope there are signs of stability by then.
Cheers, Dave
PS I think I understand why Felix added [OFF-LIST] but why have others kept it?
Felix did not add "[OFF-LIST]". someone responded to an off-list msg on-list. the thread does not belong here! -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan composed on 2017-03-08 17:25 (UTC-0500):
Felix did not add "[OFF-LIST]". someone responded to an off-list msg on-list. the thread does not belong here!
I replied to the list because the sender set the list as reply-to, noting sender did so at start of my response. I stripped attribution except that from sender. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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