It complains on mine about libnss3.so being not in the right place (I think this file is something to do with Mozilla?)

Please, please, please read the release notes on the page -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org

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Gaim 0.70 Requires gtkspell gaim-0.70-SuSE.ulb.1.i586.rpm, gaim-0.70-SuSE.ulb.1.src.rpm. Release Notes Gaim now links against some Mozilla libraries. If it fails to start, add /opt/mozilla/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig. This will be fixed in the packages of the next release of Mozilla.

Oops - my apologises for that little RTFM mistake! -- John Willby Registered Linux user number 321644 ICQ: 92791912 Jabber: vicarofwibley@jabber.org YIM: vicarofwibley Linux is like a wigwam - No Gates, no Windows, Apache inside. 8:09am up 13 days 21:21, 4 users, load average: 0.62, 0.17, 0.05

Sorry to interrupt this thread, but does mozilla actually only mean mozilla not Firebird... I have no Mozilla, and will not have, since thunderbird and firebird please me more...

I suspect that one or other of them provides libnss3.so (or both maybe) Do rpm -q --whatprovides libnss3.so to find out which, and then you can add the relevant line to ld.so.conf Having said that, I do think it's a good idea to have a full Mozilla install on your system if possible, for all the applications that link against it's libraries. 70M (the size of /opt/mozilla on my machine) is not that much these days... -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org

Hi. Also sorry for the interrupt, but my Synaptic here on my 8.2 did install the new gaim, and wiped out the old one. I'm curious, as I did not use Mozilla before, but can see, that its neded here. I use Netscape 7.1, but think it will not do it with this ?. Anyway I can go back to the old gaim again. /Erik.

James Ogley wrote:

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Mozilla before, but can see, that its neded here.

Doesn't mean it wasn't installed :)

Well to be honest it was :-)

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I use Netscape 7.1, but think it will not do it with this ?.

Well, if Netscape provides libnss3.so, and is installed by rpm, then the rpm dependency will be satisfied by Netscape.

That I'll have a look for -thanks !. Erik.

gaim: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory lajka2:~ # locate libnss3.so /usr/local/netscape/libnss3.so

So, add /usr/local/netscape to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig Or, just wait till later in the day, and get my updated Gaim packages :) -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org

In a previous message, James Ogley wrote:

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gaim: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory lajka2:~ # locate libnss3.so /usr/local/netscape/libnss3.so

So, add /usr/local/netscape to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig

Or, just wait till later in the day, and get my updated Gaim packages :)

Once the static version is available, is there any disadvantage to moving to this version and removing the mozilla entry from ld.so.conf? John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards

In a previous message, Anders Karlsson wrote:

On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 10:41, John Pettigrew wrote:

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Once the static version is available, is there any disadvantage to moving to this version and removing the mozilla entry from ld.so.conf?

None whatsoever apart from the statically linked gaim taking a little more disk-space. And then you can remove the mozilla entry from ld.so.conf as well... :-)

That's my point - is there any disadvantage to this extra entry in ld.so.conf? John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies!

In a previous message, Ken Schneider wrote:

The whole point is that a statically linked program will be larger then a dynamically linked one. There is no disadvantage if this is the only program that requires this library.

So having the extra entry in ld.so.conf doesn't lead to larger-than-necessary files, or extra resources being used? John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you!

On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 12:14, Ken Schneider wrote: [snip]

The whole point is that a statically linked program will be larger then a dynamically linked one. There is no disadvantage if this is the only program that requires this library.

Very true, if that is the only program that uses the library. As it is, the library is provided by mozilla, and a goodly number of people have mozilla installed to allow Galeon to run, so the library will be present on the system anyway. And if mozilla/Galeon is used, you will have one copy of the library in RAM from the dynamic linker and one copy present in the statically linked Gaim. One alternative solution would have been to have a pre-install checker of Gaim looking for the library required, updated ld.so.conf and run ldconfig before installing Gaim itself. Bit OTT perhaps.. :) A benefit of statically linked programs is a slight performance boost when running as it does not have to go through the dynamic linker to reach functions in the libraries while a drawback is a slightly longer loadtime as there is a little more to load from disk as well as higher memory usage if more than one program utilises the library in question. Regards, -- Anders Karlsson Trudheim Technology Limited

That's my point - is there any disadvantage to this extra entry in ld.so.conf?

None at all, in fact, if you use Galeon, Epiphany, Evolution etc, they all link against Mozilla libraries, but if they've worked fine without the line in ld.so.conf, then great :) In any case, statically linked updates are now on the site -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org