Re: [opensuse] Call for Testing: openSUSE 10.2 Bootloader Test
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on. Only I can blame opensuse for failurel to communicate this fact in the release notes . So, many user like me spend a lot of time trying to figure out why they could not sync any more under VMware. It only affected very few usb devices. Most of them worked OK. I believe the pressure to make changes should go to VMware (IMHO)
-terry-
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From: "Alexey Eremenko"
CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS This feature is really important for the Virtualization software around ! (and therefore for me)
Why did it get removed from 10.2 ? I have heard of "security reasons", now I don't believe this, since if it were security, it would not be re-introduced into 10.3, so more specifically - why it was removed ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:21:00 chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on.
How, please? -- Bob openSUSE 10.2 x86_64, Kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1, KDE 3.5.6 r31.4 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 14 April 2007 04:46, Bob Williams wrote:
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:21:00 chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on.
How, please?
Only by rebuilding the kernel from source. It was not run-time configurable. And If I recall correctly (but I'm not 100% sure), USBDEVFS is not available for compilation as a loadable module.
-- Bob
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
[...] And If I recall correctly (but I'm not 100% sure), USBDEVFS is not available for compilation as a loadable module.
It is. It's not a self-contained module, but this feature is part of the usbcore.ko module. Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thomas Hertweck wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
[...] And If I recall correctly (but I'm not 100% sure), USBDEVFS is not available for compilation as a loadable module.
It is. It's not a self-contained module, but this feature is part of the usbcore.ko module.
I guess what he wanted to say is that you can't just add a module but you have to replace an existing one with another. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:58:52AM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 14 April 2007 04:46, Bob Williams wrote:
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:21:00 chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on.
How, please?
Only by rebuilding the kernel from source. It was not run-time configurable.
And If I recall correctly (but I'm not 100% sure), USBDEVFS is not available for compilation as a loadable module.
You can also install the test kernel update we provide alongside with the new bootloader package. It has USBDEVFS enabled again. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marcus, On Saturday 14 April 2007 10:01, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:58:52AM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 14 April 2007 04:46, Bob Williams wrote:
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:21:00 chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on.
How, please?
Only by rebuilding the kernel from source. It was not run-time configurable.
...
You can also install the test kernel update we provide alongside with the new bootloader package.
It has USBDEVFS enabled again.
Is it true that a kernel update will be released through the official openSUSE update service that includes this reconfiguration?
Ciao, Marcus
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 10:06:19AM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Marcus,
On Saturday 14 April 2007 10:01, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:58:52AM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 14 April 2007 04:46, Bob Williams wrote:
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:21:00 chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on.
How, please?
Only by rebuilding the kernel from source. It was not run-time configurable.
...
You can also install the test kernel update we provide alongside with the new bootloader package.
It has USBDEVFS enabled again.
Is it true that a kernel update will be released through the official openSUSE update service that includes this reconfiguration?
Actually this kernel update that is in the testrepo will be the actual kernelupdate we will release after testing the bootloader changes has concluded. So: Yes. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 14 April 2007 10:13, Marcus Meissner wrote:
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Is it true that a kernel update will be released through the official openSUSE update service that includes this reconfiguration?
Actually this kernel update that is in the testrepo will be the actual kernelupdate we will release after testing the bootloader changes has concluded.
So: Yes.
That's good news. Thanks.
Ciao, Marcus
RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bob, Most likely you are using it for hotsyn to the PALM so I also added few tricks not related specifically to your question but that are important to hot sync with VMware. If you use the new kernel you will still need those tips to hotsync of course you will not need to enable usbfs. Using USB devices with VMWare under linux has been a pain due to the fact that VMware relies on the USB filesystem at /proc/bus/usb. SuSE 10.2 unselected the support of usbfs from the kernel so mounting by itself does not work any more. The support of usbfs is still in the kernel but you have to enable it :-( ********1. Need to enable usbfs support in the kernel********** Which has been disable because of security concerns. 1.1. basic requirements: kernel-source ncurses-devel (nedeed for make menuconfig) so just #yast -i ncurses-devel etc 1.2 Kernel and kernel-source should be the save version: rpm -qa | grep kernel 1.3 Change the kernel configuration #cd /usr/src/linux #make menuconfig In "make menuconfig" for kernel configuration GOTO: -> Device Drivers//USB support/USB device filesystem and selected it! Esc/esc until ask you to save the config. Say yes. #make modules && make modules_install reboot Bob this part can be done in many different way. You can clone the configuration file, change it and use one of the new vanilla kernels etc. Menuconfig is the one I use but other options are also available. This is simple and I tried in three machines and all are working very well. Do not do other changes in the kernel, make it simple. ********2. Change /etc/fstab:******** By Default, VMWare will NOT allow the user to attach to USB devices connected to the physical workstation when the host OS is SuSE Linux 2.1 To allow access to USB devices attached to the workstation through VMWare, you need to modify the /etc/fstab file as root. /etc/fstab Locate this line: usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 and change it to: usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs autofs 0 0 2.2 After the machine has been rebooted, the USB Device attached, and VMWare started, select VM | Removable Devices | USB Device, and select the device that needs to be attached to the VMWare session. 2.3 When the usb device is the Palm like in my case Treo 700p sometimes you have another device loaded rmvisor just remove it #rmmod visor OR Mount the usb before starting VMware (instead of 2.1) # mount -t usbfs /dev/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb Continue as 2.2 and 2.3 ********3. Be sure the vmimage is in focus******** ********4. Hotsync******** ********5. May have to start with the phone out of the craddle******** If if does not work try to repeat the mount and rmmod command and try again.!! Ciao -=terry(Denver)=- On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 12:46 +0100, Bob Williams wrote:
On Friday 13 April 2007 15:21:00 chusty@attglobal.net wrote:
usbfs was never removed from the kernel, it was not enable, so it was very simple to turn it on.
How, please?
openSUSE 10.2 x86_64, Kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1, KDE 3.5.6 r31.4
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Bob Williams
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chusty@attglobal.net
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Marcus Meissner
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Randall R Schulz
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Teruel de Campo MD
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Thomas Hertweck
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Wolfgang Rosenauer