One difference is I did not put in the * after usb And I get 178 and you get 0 So what does that mean. I don't understand> When I do put in * i get Password: linux:/home/andy # ls -l /dev/usb* crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usblp0 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 1 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usblp1 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 2 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usblp2 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 3 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usblp3 crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 32 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usbmouse crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 32 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usbmouse0 crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 33 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usbmouse1 crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 34 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usbmouse2 crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 35 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usbmouse3 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 48 2004-10-02 04:38 /dev/usbscanner /dev/usb: total 178 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2184 2005-03-10 10:09 . drwxr-xr-x 33 root root 180096 2005-03-15 12:41 .. crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 112 2004-10-02 04:38 auer0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 113 2004-10-02 04:38 auer1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 114 2004-10-02 04:38 auer2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 115 2004-10-02 04:38 auer3 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 116 2004-10-02 04:38 auer4 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 117 2004-10-02 04:38 auer5 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 118 2004-10-02 04:38 auer6 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 180, 119 2004-10-02 04:38 auer7 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 240 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb0 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 241 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb1 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 242 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb2 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 243 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb3 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 244 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb4 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 245 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb5 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 246 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb6 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 247 2004-10-02 04:38 dabusb7 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 80 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx0 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 81 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx1 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 82 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx2 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 83 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx3 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 84 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx4 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 85 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx5 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 86 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx6 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 87 2004-10-02 04:38 dc2xx7 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 32 2004-10-02 04:38 ez0 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 33 2004-10-02 04:38 ez1 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 34 2004-10-02 04:38 ez2 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 35 2004-10-02 04:38 ez3 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 36 2004-10-02 04:38 ez4 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 37 2004-10-02 04:38 ez5 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 38 2004-10-02 04:38 ez6 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 39 2004-10-02 04:38 ez7 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 96 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev0 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 97 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev1 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 106 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev10 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 107 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev11 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 108 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev12 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 109 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev13 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 110 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev14 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 111 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev15 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 98 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev2 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 99 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev3 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 100 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev4 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 101 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev5 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 102 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev6 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 103 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev7 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 104 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev8 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 105 2004-10-02 04:38 hiddev9 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 2004-10-02 04:38 lp0 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 1 2004-10-02 04:38 lp1 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 2 2004-10-02 04:38 lp2 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 3 2004-10-02 04:38 lp3 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 4 2004-10-02 04:38 lp4 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 5 2004-10-02 04:38 lp5 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 6 2004-10-02 04:38 lp6 crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 7 2004-10-02 04:38 lp7 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 16 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse0 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 17 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse1 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 18 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse2 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 19 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse3 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 20 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse4 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 21 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse5 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 22 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse6 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 23 2004-10-02 04:38 mouse7 crw-rw---- 1 root root 180, 64 2004-10-02 04:38 rio500 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 48 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner0 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 49 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner1 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 50 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner2 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 51 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner3 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 52 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner4 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 53 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner5 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 54 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner6 crw------- 1 andy root 180, 55 2004-10-02 04:38 scanner7 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 0 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB0 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 1 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB1 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 10 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB10 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 11 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB11 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 12 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB12 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 13 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB13 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 14 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB14 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 15 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB15 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 2 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB2 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 3 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB3 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 4 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB4 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 5 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB5 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 6 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB6 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 7 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB7 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 8 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB8 crw-rw---- 1 root uucp 188, 9 2004-10-02 04:38 ttyUSB9 linux:/home/andy #