[SLE] konqueror and fish://
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. It's interesting to note that while some applications work just fine with remote files via fish://, others such as openoffice and gimp do not. Does anyone know if the application has to especially built to work with fish:// ? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Per Jessen wrote:
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. It's interesting to note that while some applications work just fine with remote files via fish://, others such as openoffice and gimp do not. Does anyone know if the application has to especially built to work with fish:// ?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
I find the ones built for kde work better than none kde stuff the kde stuff has access to the kde plug ins better -- Hans Krueger hanskrueger@adelphia.net registered Linux user 289023 411024 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Per, On Friday 07 July 2006 02:41, Per Jessen wrote:
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. It's interesting to note that while some applications work just fine with remote files via fish://, others such as openoffice and gimp do not. Does anyone know if the application has to especially built to work with fish:// ?
The application probably cannot seek(2) a fish: stream, so if it needs random access to the file, it probably won't work. Also, I don't think this is a kernel-resident facility, so applications presumably have to use a particular library or libraries for file selection and access in order to get the intervention necessary to make the transparent fish protocol work. But that's just a hunch / guess.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Randall Schulz -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Randall R Schulz wrote:
The application probably cannot seek(2) a fish: stream, so if it needs random access to the file, it probably won't work.
Also, I don't think this is a kernel-resident facility, so applications presumably have to use a particular library or libraries for file selection and access in order to get the intervention necessary to make the transparent fish protocol work.
But that's just a hunch / guess.
Hi Randall, that pretty much matches my own thoughts - the only "problem" is that acrobat reader works fine with fish:// objects. And that's a non-SUSE acrobat reader. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Friday 07 July 2006 02:41, Per Jessen wrote:
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. It's interesting to note that while some applications work just fine with remote files via fish://, others such as openoffice and gimp do not. Does anyone know if the application has to especially built to work with fish:// ?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
In order for an app to use fish:// (or *any* other KIO slave, they have to use the KIO class for working with files. Most KIO slaves take the remote file, copy it to a local tmp directory, and use it from there. Basically, the app asks KIO for the file, KIO does the heavy network lifting, and passes the data on the the application. So a gnome app that doesn't use KIO won't work with fish. But a gnome app *could* detect if it was running in KDE, and use KIO slaves in that event, which is likely what acrobat does. HTH, Mark -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Friday 07 July 2006 02:41, Per Jessen wrote:
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. It's interesting to note that while some applications work just fine with remote files via fish://, others such as openoffice and gimp do not. Does anyone know if the application has to especially built to work with fish:// ?
/Per Jessen, Zürich
In order for an app to use fish:// (or *any* other KIO slave, they have to use the KIO class for working with files. Most KIO slaves take the remote file, copy it to a local tmp directory, and use it from there.
Basically, the app asks KIO for the file, KIO does the heavy network lifting, and passes the data on the the application.
So a gnome app that doesn't use KIO won't work with fish. But a gnome app *could* detect if it was running in KDE, and use KIO slaves in that event, which is likely what acrobat does.
HTH,
Mark I was able to connect to a knoppmyth computer with fish:/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx I was able to download and upload just about any file i chose, with the notable exception of the .nuv files i was trying to move. Is there a 2 gig
On Friday 07 July 2006 07:24, Mark A. Taff wrote: limit or something like it? any workaround suggestions would be appreciated. the only alternative at this time is to install suse10.0 in the root partition and use nfs to transfer the files, i have encountered problems installing nfs in knoppmyth. tia. d. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Monday 10 July 2006 03:48, kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:
I was able to connect to a knoppmyth computer with fish:/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx I was able to download and upload just about any file i chose, with the notable exception of the .nuv files i was trying to move. Is there a 2 gig limit or something like it? any workaround suggestions would be appreciated. the only alternative at this time is to install suse10.0 in the root partition and use nfs to transfer the files, i have encountered problems installing nfs in knoppmyth. tia. d.
I don't know about any 2G limits. I suggest you try to transfer the files with sftp://, and if that doesn't work, try the command line using scp directly, or perhaps rsync will fit your needs better. HTH, Mark -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Per Jessen
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. ...
Fish has been around for several years. I hope you know sshfs which is a relatively new thing (sshfs-*.rpm in SUSE Linux 10.1). See /usr/share/doc/packages/sshfs/README for more info. You need to run # modprobe fuse before you mount a remote filesystem via sshfs hostname: mountpoint -- A.M. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 11:41:30AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. It's interesting to note that while some applications work just fine with remote files via fish://, others such as openoffice and gimp do not. Does anyone know if the application has to especially built to work with fish:// ?
fish:// is a kioslave. KDE apps know how to accept URLs ;) You can specify in the desktop file (or on the commandline). If they only accept files, or undefined ... The KIO slave copies the file to local storage first. OOo might still open the file, but writing will not arrive back on the place you got it from. Ciao, Marcus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Friday 07 July 2006 11:41, Per Jessen wrote:
Having recently discovered fish:// for konqueror, I've been trying out a few things. It's interesting to note that while some applications work just fine with remote files via fish://, others such as openoffice and gimp do not. Does anyone know if the application has to especially built to work with fish:// ?
AFAIK, fish:// is KDE-specific. So I think the answer would be "yes". Cheers, Leen -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
participants (8)
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Alexandr Malusek
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Hans Krueger
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kanenas@hawaii.rr.com
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Leendert Meyer
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Marcus Meissner
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Mark A. Taff
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Per Jessen
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Randall R Schulz