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bryantyson＠earthlink.net

29 Sep 2000 29 Sep '00

05:17

I am curious to know if there is any such thing as fragmentation problems or a need for defragging the hard drive in Linux. The reason I wonder is that I have never seen or heard any mention of disk fragmentation as a concern with Linux. If disk fragmentation is not an issue in Linux, can anyone explain why? Thank you. ************************************ Powered by SuSE Linux 6.4 KMail 1.0.28 Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ************************************ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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okh-linux＠post.cybercity.dk

29 Sep 29 Sep

11:34

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:

I am curious to know if there is any such thing as fragmentation problems or a need for defragging the hard drive in Linux.

The reason I wonder is that I have never seen or heard any mention of disk fragmentation as a concern with Linux.

If disk fragmentation is not an issue in Linux, can anyone explain why?

I am not anywhere near an expert, but I've been told that the ext2 filesystem handles defragging itself, so there should be no need to use an extra program for that. Regards Ole -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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karnak＠look.ca

10:30

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"Ole" == Ole Kofoed Hansen writes:

Ole> On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Bryan S. Tyson wrote: >> I am curious to know if there is any such thing as >> fragmentation problems or a need for defragging the hard drive >> in Linux. >> The reason I wonder is that I have never seen or heard any >> mention of disk fragmentation as a concern with Linux. >> >> If disk fragmentation is not an issue in Linux, can anyone >> explain why? Ole> I am not anywhere near an expert, but I've been told that the Ole> ext2 filesystem handles defragging itself, so there should be Ole> no need to use an extra program for that. No, the ext2 filesystem does not handle defragging itself, but it is designed in such a way that it keeps fragmentation to a minimum. Unless you do something really weird to the filesystem, the percentage of fragmentation should never be high enough to warrant a defrag. AFAIK there is one program to defrag an ext2 filesystem (which you can find on freshmeat), but it is regarded as a curiosity more than anything. Charles -- ===================================================== One Net to rule them all, One Net to find them, One Net to bring them all, and with Linux bind them. ===================================================== -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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juergen.braukmann＠ruhr-west.de

21:33

Ole Kofoed Hansen wrote:

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:

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I am curious to know if there is any such thing as fragmentation problems or a need for defragging the hard drive in Linux.

The reason I wonder is that I have never seen or heard any mention of disk fragmentation as a concern with Linux.

If disk fragmentation is not an issue in Linux, can anyone explain why?

I am not anywhere near an expert, but I've been told that the ext2 filesystem handles defragging itself, so there should be no need to use an extra program for that.

Not realy defragging itself, but reservating bigger straps of diskspace in advance, so files do not get fragmented as in DoS. The result is: do not care. For those who are brave, keep daily backups and love reinstalls <grin> there are some tools out there, for defragging ext2, seen it mentioned here, but I never cared. How about ReiserFS on that topic? Juergen -- =========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann juergen.braukmann@gmx.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ===========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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alan＠ibgames.com

30 Sep 30 Sep

05:54

I've been running ext2 on an old 486 for four or five years now. It is my internet gateway. I've never had to defrag it in all that time. Actually I didn't reboot it for the first two and a half years either - and then only because I was upgrading. Eat your heart out Windows :) Alan

Not realy defragging itself, but reservating bigger straps of diskspace in advance, so files do not get fragmented as in DoS. The result is: do not care. For those who are brave, keep daily backups and love reinstalls <grin> there are some tools out there, for defragging ext2, seen it mentioned here, but I never cared. How about ReiserFS on that topic?

Juergen

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rshakin＠unixfreak.org

06:10

I had my old p75 as a firewall/router for my house and the uptime on that thing was about 2 years, untill the powersupply went fubar. i had an old slackware with 2.0.* with ext2 and it was fine. --Roman ----------------------------------------- Roman Shakin rshakin@unixfreak.org - email (949) 651-7563 - pager (949) 655-3000 ext. 1812 - voicemail/fax On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Alan Lenton wrote:

I've been running ext2 on an old 486 for four or five years now. It is my internet gateway. I've never had to defrag it in all that time. Actually I didn't reboot it for the first two and a half years either - and then only because I was upgrading. Eat your heart out Windows :)

Alan

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Not realy defragging itself, but reservating bigger straps of diskspace in advance, so files do not get fragmented as in DoS. The result is: do not care. For those who are brave, keep daily backups and love reinstalls <grin> there are some tools out there, for defragging ext2, seen it mentioned here, but I never cared. How about ReiserFS on that topic?

Juergen

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alan＠ibgames.com
bryantyson＠earthlink.net
juergen.braukmann＠ruhr-west.de
karnak＠look.ca
okh-linux＠post.cybercity.dk
rshakin＠unixfreak.org