On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:37, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Does anyone have VMware 5 running with a raw disk on SuSE 9.3 (Win2k guest)?

TIA, Jeffrey

Not exactly -- I have VMWare 4.5.2 on Suse 9.3. You might need "vmware-any-any" patch available at http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/ -- I did.

On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 18:37 -0500, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Does anyone have VMware 5 running with a raw disk on SuSE 9.3 (Win2k guest)?

TIA, Jeffrey

Not sure what you mean by "raw disk", but I have a W2K guest (40Gb virtual disk) running under VMWS 5 on SuSE 9.3 Can you give a bit more info about the problems you are having. Dave

On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 18:34 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

Dave,

On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:05, Dave Barton wrote:

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Not sure what you mean by "raw disk", but I have a W2K guest (40Gb virtual disk) running under VMWS 5 on SuSE 9.3

VMWare can either emulate the disks it provides to the guest OS using plain files from the host OS or it can pass the guest OS disk requests directly through to host OS disks. The latter are called "raw" disks.

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Dave

Randall Schulz

OK I should have RTFM ;) My warped logic works along the lines that the opposite to "virtual" is "real" not "raw", but if that's the way VMWare sees it, then so be it. I am probably asking the obvious, but have you gone all the way through the "Create New Virtual Machine" wizard? The option for a real (Oops raw) disk/partition appears as one of the last steps of a "Custom" VM. Are you: (a) trying to set up a VM for an existing W2K partition (ie. a dual boot machine)? or (b) trying to create a VM to install W2K on an existing disk/partition? If your considering (a) I would advise against it. From first hand experience, you are very likely to screw up the existing W2K install and grub will certainly puke (don't know about lilo). (b) is a possibility, but create the partition for your VM, before you start the New VM wizard. HTH Dave

On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 23:09 -0500, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: 8<-- snip -->8

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I am probably asking the obvious, but have you gone all the way through the "Create New Virtual Machine" wizard? The option for a real (Oops raw) disk/partition appears as one of the last steps of a "Custom" VM.

Yes, the problem is with the boot.

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Are you: (a) trying to set up a VM for an existing W2K partition (ie. a dual boot machine)? or (b) trying to create a VM to install W2K on an existing disk/partition?

If your considering (a) I would advise against it. From first hand experience, you are very likely to screw up the existing W2K install and grub will certainly puke (don't know about lilo).

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I am using GRUB and it does puke. I see "GRUB" on a text screen and nothing more happens. I have done this with previous versions of VMware and SuSE, but I may have been using LILO then.

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(b) is a possibility, but create the partition for your VM, before you start the New VM wizard.

HTH Dave

I have just one day left on the eval license and am trying to find out if it will work. It works fine with a virtual disk. So far at least.

Thanks, Jeffrey

I had an idea that's what you were trying to do. I've been there, with more disastrous results. I recall hearing of others who have succeeded in doing this, but I don't remember if anyone got it to work with V5. You might try the Vmware newsgroups news.vmware.com If you post there, give them a _full_ explanation of what you are trying to do. You will probably get replies such as "Oh no, don't try that", but there are some guys there who really seem to understand the inner workings of Vmware. You might want to give Vmware tech support a shot. I have always found them to be very helpful, but then again I am a licenced user. Sorry I can't be of more help. Dave

Dave, On Thursday 23 June 2005 20:51, Dave Barton wrote:

On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 18:34 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Dave,

On Thursday 23 June 2005 18:05, Dave Barton wrote:

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Not sure what you mean by "raw disk", but I have a W2K guest (40Gb virtual disk) running under VMWS 5 on SuSE 9.3

VMWare can either emulate the disks it provides to the guest OS using plain files from the host OS or it can pass the guest OS disk requests directly through to host OS disks. The latter are called "raw" disks.

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Dave

Randall Schulz

OK I should have RTFM ;) My warped logic works along the lines that the opposite to "virtual" is "real" not "raw", but if that's the way VMWare sees it, then so be it.

The disks are still virtual from the perspective of the guest OS. E.g., the guest OS does not see the same drive hardware as that actually present in the host. Apparently, VMWare uses "physical" and "raw" interchangeably to describe virtual drives that are mapped directly to host OS drives and not stored in host OS files.

I am probably asking the obvious, but have you gone all the way through the "Create New Virtual Machine" wizard? The option for a real (Oops raw) disk/partition appears as one of the last steps of a "Custom" VM.

I'm not the OP. My VMWare set-up is working just fine. I expect he'll get back to us with more details on whatever help he needs. Failing that, I see no point in guessing what sort of remedy might be in order.

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HTH Dave

Randall Schulz

Hi, Dave, On Thursday 23 June 2005 22:44, Dave Barton wrote:

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Failing that, I see no point in guessing what sort of remedy might be in order.

Yes I thought that at the time I was typing my response, but I have had bucket loads of help from this list and I don't get much opportunity to give a lot back. Over-enthusiasm maybe? ;)

Not to worry, it's no vice.

Dave

Randall Schulz