playing mp3 in xmms in suse 10.1
Hello: What package do I need to install for making xmms being able to play mp3 files in suse 10.1? I thought I'd need xmms-mad but I can't find any. Thanks, IG ___________________________________________________________________INGYEN CSENGŐHANG http://www.hirkereso.hu/jatek1.html
What package do I need to install for making xmms being able to play mp3 files in suse 10.1?
It is easy. Add packman repo via Yast. Then serach for Mp3 and install the packages. http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories Goksin Akdeniz
It works for me but I have the following installed on 10.1. xmms-lib-mad-1.2.10-77 I am told by the packman folks to drop xmms and switch to either audacity or beep-media-player. Cheers, Bob
On Sunday 20 August 2006 10:00, Robert Lewis wrote:
It works for me but I have the following installed on 10.1.
xmms-lib-mad-1.2.10-77
I am told by the packman folks to drop xmms and switch to either audacity or beep-media-player.
Cheers, Bob
And you took their advice WHY? Xmms works, and has for years. Xmms is lightweight and widely available on virtually every distro. It is only SuSE's broken packages that make it not work. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sunday 20 August 2006 16:40, John Andersen wrote:
Xmms works, and has for years. Xmms is lightweight and widely available on virtually every distro. It is only SuSE's broken packages that make it not work.
Yes, xmms is still my favorite. It installed perfectly and runs great on my Mepis and Kubuntu systems. I think amarok is very cool, but most of the time I don't need all the extra (but definitely cool) features it offers. Usually I want a small, simple player that just plays. My usage is probably 95% xmms, 5% amarok. Bryan **************************************** Powered by Mepis Linux 3.4-3 KDE 3.5.2 KMail 1.9.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ****************************************
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 19:37, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
I think amarok is very cool, but most of the time I don't need all the extra (but definitely cool) features it offers. Usually I want a small, simple player that just plays. My usage is probably 95% xmms, 5% amarok.
You might try mpg321 or mp3blaster, which are console-based apps, if you want a really simple, memory-light player. -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:40:11 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
It is only SuSE's broken packages that make it not work.
Could you stop being polemic? The packages aren't broken, they're simply compiled without support for mp3. You only need to modify the .spec file and rebuild the xmms package and presto, you have a xmms that supports mp3. Philipp
On Friday 25 August 2006 17:18, Philipp Thomas wrote:
The packages aren't broken, they're simply compiled without support for mp3.
Most people would consider this broken. You told him to how to fix the broken packages by recompiling. Bryan *************************************** Powered by Kubuntu Linux 6.06 KDE 3.5.2 KMail 1.9.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ***************************************
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:08, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
On Friday 25 August 2006 17:18, Philipp Thomas wrote:
The packages aren't broken, they're simply compiled without support for mp3.
Most people would consider this broken. You told him to how to fix the broken packages by recompiling.
And if they had to do it that way for legal reasons, why would you consider it broken?
On Saturday 26 August 2006 10:17, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:08, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
On Friday 25 August 2006 17:18, Philipp Thomas wrote:
The packages aren't broken, they're simply compiled without support for mp3.
Most people would consider this broken. You told him to how to fix the broken packages by recompiling.
And if they had to do it that way for legal reasons, why would you consider it broken?
Because other distros DON'T do it that way perhaps? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 26 August 2006 21:59, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 10:17, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:08, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
On Friday 25 August 2006 17:18, Philipp Thomas wrote:
The packages aren't broken, they're simply compiled without support for mp3.
Most people would consider this broken. You told him to how to fix the broken packages by recompiling.
And if they had to do it that way for legal reasons, why would you consider it broken?
Because other distros DON'T do it that way perhaps?
So other distros violate patents. Is that a reason to do so yourself? Especially if you're a company with case (therefore worthwhile to sue) it is important to consider these things. You will note that the only two companies who actually make money from linux have removed (unlicensed) mp3 playing ability There is a legal, licensed way to play mp3s though, it's called RealPlayer
On Saturday 26 August 2006 22:15, Anders Johansson wrote:
Especially if you're a company with case (therefore worthwhile to sue) it
gah! The above should obviously read "with cash" I don't need a spelling checker, I need a sanity checker
On Saturday 26 August 2006 22:17, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 22:15, Anders Johansson wrote:
Especially if you're a company with case (therefore worthwhile to sue) it
gah! The above should obviously read "with cash"
I don't need a spelling checker, I need a sanity checker
Naa. Just another cup of coffee.. ;-) Or blame it on the keyboard like I do. I can spell every word just fine. But sometimes the keyboard makes the mistake.. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 For Mondo/Mindi backup support go to http://www.mikenjane.net/~mike 10:25pm up 12 days 2:53, 5 users, load average: 2.29, 2.24, 2.22
On Saturday 26 August 2006 12:26, Mike wrote:
Naa. Just another cup of coffee.. ;-) Or blame it on the keyboard like I do. I can spell every word just fine. But sometimes the keyboard makes the mistake..
Mike
Is it just me or do other people get to roaring along on the keyboard only to come to a halt in a semi-confused state because some part of your brain realizes subconsciously that your fingers have made a mistake but you are not aware of where the mistake is? Ok... perhaps it just me... -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 26 August 2006 22:34, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 12:26, Mike wrote:
Naa. Just another cup of coffee.. ;-) Or blame it on the keyboard like I do. I can spell every word just fine. But sometimes the keyboard makes the mistake..
Mike
Is it just me or do other people get to roaring along on the keyboard only to come to a halt in a semi-confused state because some part of your brain realizes subconsciously that your fingers have made a mistake but you are not aware of where the mistake is?
Ok... perhaps it just me...
Sure! I get the error all the time. Especially when low on caffeine and excitedly typing a long set of text. Its gotta be something with the I/O checksum checking routines being to slow... Or maybe the typing buffer corrupting the stream... Back to topic; Clarification needed: Is the mp3 format a patent? I thought the ruckus about leaving it out of SuSE was due to the music industry complaining about loosing money on pirated music...? Or have i got it all wrong? (As usual...) I have several friends in the music business that release some, if not all of their music as mp3's as well as on pressed CD's. Is making mp3's for the public a violation of some kind of patent? If that is the case, how come lame is distributed in that case?? Wouldn't distributing an encoder be just as patent infringing as a decoder? -- /Rikard ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- email : rikard.j@rikjoh.com web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob: : +46 (0)763 19 76 25 ------------------------ Public PGP fingerprint ---------------------------- < 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 >
On Saturday 26 August 2006 22:47, Rikard Johnels wrote:
Back to topic; Clarification needed: Is the mp3 format a patent?
No, it is a file format. It is however covered by a patent, owned by Fraunhofer. As far as I know, you can give away decoders for free, but if they are part of something you sell commercially, Fraunhofer wants a piece of the action. Encoders - again, as far as I know - must always be licensed. The license costs for both are either based on number of copies sold, or a fairly steep one time fee
Wouldn't distributing an encoder be just as patent infringing as a decoder?
yes http://www.mp3licensing.com/ Have a look at "Royalty rates"
Rikard Johnels wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 22:34, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 12:26, Mike wrote:
Naa. Just another cup of coffee.. ;-) Or blame it on the keyboard like I do. I can spell every word just fine. But sometimes the keyboard makes the mistake..
Mike
Is it just me or do other people get to roaring along on the keyboard only to come to a halt in a semi-confused state because some part of your brain realizes subconsciously that your fingers have made a mistake but you are not aware of where the mistake is?
Ok... perhaps it just me...
Sure! I get the error all the time. Especially when low on caffeine and excitedly typing a long set of text. Its gotta be something with the I/O checksum checking routines being to slow... Or maybe the typing buffer corrupting the stream...
Back to topic; Clarification needed: Is the mp3 format a patent? I thought the ruckus about leaving it out of SuSE was due to the music industry complaining about loosing money on pirated music...? Or have i got it all wrong? (As usual...) I have several friends in the music business that release some, if not all of their music as mp3's as well as on pressed CD's. Is making mp3's for the public a violation of some kind of patent? If that is the case, how come lame is distributed in that case?? Wouldn't distributing an encoder be just as patent infringing as a decoder?
MP3 is a patented format. SuSE either hasn't or won't pay to be able to include it in the shipped packaging so we rely on outside packager to mp3 capabilities in things like xmms -- One day at a time, one second if that's what it takes
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