[opensuse] Kmix, YaST and an explotion
hi list, - I'm digging deeper into my (no)sound problem which occured after some on-line autoupdate. - if I go into YaST and search for kmix, I see that 4.2.1-43.13 is installed but 4.2.1-43.14 is available. - if I select to update to this available version, YaST explodes in unfilled dependencies, it wants to DOWNgrade LOTS of packages. So i don't touch it. - eh....has anyone seen anything like this? Second question: I'd like to re-install all sound, I tried the hw/section of YaST, deleted all sound hw and re-fired YaST. It finds the sound hw just fine, but nothing works... Any ideas? -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
hi list,
- I'm digging deeper into my (no)sound problem which occured after some on-line autoupdate.
- if I go into YaST and search for kmix, I see that 4.2.1-43.13 is installed but 4.2.1-43.14 is available.
- if I select to update to this available version, YaST explodes in unfilled dependencies, it wants to DOWNgrade LOTS of packages. So i don't touch it.
- eh....has anyone seen anything like this?
Second question: I'd like to re-install all sound, I tried the hw/section of YaST, deleted all sound hw and re-fired YaST. It finds the sound hw just fine, but nothing works...
Any ideas?
Kde packages have been renamed kde4-kmix is now kmix and kmix is now kdemultimedia3-mixer, maybe this has something to do with your problem. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2009 12:18:58 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
- I'm digging deeper into my (no)sound problem which occured after some on-line autoupdate.
- if I go into YaST and search for kmix, I see that 4.2.1-43.13 is installed but 4.2.1-43.14 is available.
Where do you get 4.2.1 packages from? The only 4.2 packages I know of are in KDE:42 and those are 4.2.4.
- if I select to update to this available version, YaST explodes in unfilled dependencies, it wants to DOWNgrade LOTS of packages. So i don't touch it.
Make sure your KDE repos have a higher priority than your oss and update repos, i.e. lower number. If the prios are set correctly, a sudo zypper dup should update you to the latest KDE packages available from your repos. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2009 12:18:58 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
- I'm digging deeper into my (no)sound problem which occured after some on-line autoupdate.
- if I go into YaST and search for kmix, I see that 4.2.1-43.13 is installed but 4.2.1-43.14 is available.
Where do you get 4.2.1 packages from? The only 4.2 packages I know of are in KDE:42 and those are 4.2.4.
- if I select to update to this available version, YaST explodes in unfilled dependencies, it wants to DOWNgrade LOTS of packages. So i don't touch it.
Make sure your KDE repos have a higher priority than your oss and update repos, i.e. lower number. If the prios are set correctly, a sudo zypper dup should update you to the latest KDE packages available from your repos.
Sven
Thanks A LOT! - I'll get back with a solved if this cures it. But it indeed seems very likely. My repos priority were messed up. Fixed it now, will keep you posted! -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
- well, sort of...read below :-) Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2009 12:18:58 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
- I'm digging deeper into my (no)sound problem which occured after some on-line autoupdate.
- if I go into YaST and search for kmix, I see that 4.2.1-43.13 is installed but 4.2.1-43.14 is available. Where do you get 4.2.1 packages from? The only 4.2 packages I know of are in KDE:42 and those are 4.2.4.
- if I select to update to this available version, YaST explodes in unfilled dependencies, it wants to DOWNgrade LOTS of packages. So i don't touch it. Make sure your KDE repos have a higher priority than your oss and update repos, i.e. lower number. If the prios are set correctly, a sudo zypper dup should update you to the latest KDE packages available from your repos.
Sven
Thanks A LOT! - I'll get back with a solved if this cures it. But it indeed seems very likely. My repos priority were messed up. Fixed it now, will keep you posted!
I did as instructed - it downloaded A LOT of stuff and gave me a somewhat newish desktop. With small padlock on all icons and so. But after running the icons just once, it's gone and looks normal. Nearly, at least. But my sound is still gone. So I thank you for the very valuable hint with the ordering of sw repos and the zypper dup command. Very handy indeed. Two questions, though..on my desktop I've got an old Konquerer as the default 'home' browser, I'd like to use Dolphin for that,- how to? Finally, any hints as to how I may debug this sound issue that just came up after the last on-line update? Sound hw is definetely ok, Windows plays sound, Knoppix plays sound and all. My sound hardware appears (from BIOS) to be a 'Sigmatel 9200' thing. From dmesg, I grep for 'sound' and I get: ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:699: hda-intel: get_response timeout: IRS=0x1 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1314: hda_intel: Codec #0 probe error; disabling it... ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:699: hda-intel: get_response timeout: IRS=0x1 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:726: hda-intel: send_cmd timeout: IRS=0x1, val=0xf0000 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:726: hda-intel: send_cmd timeout: IRS=0x1, val=0xf0001 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:726: hda-intel: send_cmd timeout: IRS=0x1, val=0xf0002 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:726: hda-intel: send_cmd timeout: IRS=0x1, val=0xf0004 ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1340: hda-intel: no codecs initialized
From lsmod piped through grep for snd, I get:
snd_pcm_oss 43024 0 snd_mixer_oss 14288 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq 51924 0 snd_seq_device 7168 1 snd_seq snd_hda_intel 430336 0 snd_pcm 76668 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel snd_timer 20204 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 8048 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 7144 1 snd_hda_intel snd 56816 8 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 6660 1 snd If I cat out /etc/modprobe.d/sound, i get: options snd slots=snd-hda-intel # u1Nb.vTssaBe3fD8:82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel Is this of any help? And, as always, thank you for everyones time and effort in helping out! -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2009 16:22:17 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
I did as instructed - it downloaded A LOT of stuff and gave me a somewhat newish desktop. With small padlock on all icons and so. But after running the icons just once, it's gone and looks normal. Nearly, at least.
If you right-click the desktop you can lock/unlock the desktop. If unlocked hovering widgets on the desktop will show you the toolbar.
But my sound is still gone.
Check that you have libxine1 from packman and the phonon-xine-backend installed. Also try to move/rename your ~/.xine folder and log out and back in. If that does not help you can use alsamixer to check whether any channels are muted.
Two questions, though..on my desktop I've got an old Konquerer as the default 'home' browser, I'd like to use Dolphin for that,- how to?
In KDE's systemsettings there is a "standard components" section where you should be able to set the default filebrowser etc. If you just want to change the icons on the panel you have to unlock the desktop, right-click the old one, remove it and then right-click the new one in the menu and pick "add to panel" or d&d it. You can move icons on the panel if you click on the cashew- like icon on its left and then hover+click the icons. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2009 16:22:17 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
I did as instructed - it downloaded A LOT of stuff and gave me a somewhat newish desktop. With small padlock on all icons and so. But after running the icons just once, it's gone and looks normal. Nearly, at least.
If you right-click the desktop you can lock/unlock the desktop. If unlocked hovering widgets on the desktop will show you the toolbar.
But my sound is still gone.
Check that you have libxine1 from packman and the phonon-xine-backend installed. Also try to move/rename your ~/.xine folder and log out and back in. If that does not help you can use alsamixer to check whether any channels are muted.
Two questions, though..on my desktop I've got an old Konquerer as the default 'home' browser, I'd like to use Dolphin for that,- how to?
In KDE's systemsettings there is a "standard components" section where you should be able to set the default filebrowser etc. If you just want to change the icons on the panel you have to unlock the desktop, right-click the old one, remove it and then right-click the new one in the menu and pick "add to panel" or d&d it. You can move icons on the panel if you click on the cashew- like icon on its left and then hover+click the icons.
Sven
Very valuable info. Thanks ! Half of the reason some people don't like new things (like me and KDE4...) is that they (at least I...) don't sit down and take the time to actually learn the features of this new thing. I'll get right to it. -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 09:22:17 am Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
I did as instructed - it downloaded A LOT of stuff and gave me a somewhat newish desktop. With small padlock on all icons and so. But after running the icons just once, it's gone and looks normal. Nearly, at least.
Welcome to kde4! As you have found, the desktop folder lists all unknown programs as "insecure" until you run them the first time and confirmed that you trust that program. (Why firefox is flagged by kde4 is beyond me. Seems kind of silly to flag the same firefox that kde3 put on the desktop as "insecure" in kde4) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin skrev:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 09:22:17 am Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
I did as instructed - it downloaded A LOT of stuff and gave me a somewhat newish desktop. With small padlock on all icons and so. But after running the icons just once, it's gone and looks normal. Nearly, at least.
Welcome to kde4!
As you have found, the desktop folder lists all unknown programs as "insecure" until you run them the first time and confirmed that you trust that program. (Why firefox is flagged by kde4 is beyond me. Seems kind of silly to flag the same firefox that kde3 put on the desktop as "insecure" in kde4)
Hi list, - good for me that I was too tired (of it all) last night...I didn't write the posting I felt like! - KDE4 is NOT ready for showtime. Period. - the issues I (and many others) encounter, clearly states so. That said, it's still a fine piece of software, pointing in the right directions and all. But - it's not ready. I wonder how I get my desktop back into a productional state? Krunner crashing at login. Lots of other stuff crashing too. I thing I'l rename .kde(n) and take it from there. -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
- good for me that I was too tired (of it all) last night...I didn't write the posting I felt like!
- KDE4 is NOT ready for showtime. Period.
- the issues I (and many others) encounter, clearly states so. That said, it's still a fine piece of software, pointing in the right directions and all. But - it's not ready.
I wonder how I get my desktop back into a productional state?
Krunner crashing at login. Lots of other stuff crashing too. I thing I'l rename .kde(n) and take it from there.
The problems you are describing (with the desktop oddities not the sound issue) are most likely the common problem that most of us using KDE4 have encountered... upgrading means that the rc and config files for KDE4 have changed big time between your previously running version (especially so if you were running 4.1 or earlier and moved to 4.3.x) and the new install. This introduces a bunch or conflicts and weirdness that can be traced directly back to how much things have changed. Once you "reset" that and start working with a clean config, KDE4 works reasonably well. Still has some hiccups, but so far on all the systems I run/support on KDE4, is working fine. Renaming .kde(n) will do the reset... as will deleting or renaming the config files. Either way, you will be returned to a default config, and you should be able to tinker with your desktop settings, and it should be in a "production" state again. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Clayton skrev:
- good for me that I was too tired (of it all) last night...I didn't write the posting I felt like!
- KDE4 is NOT ready for showtime. Period.
- the issues I (and many others) encounter, clearly states so. That said, it's still a fine piece of software, pointing in the right directions and all. But - it's not ready.
I wonder how I get my desktop back into a productional state?
Krunner crashing at login. Lots of other stuff crashing too. I thing I'l rename .kde(n) and take it from there.
The problems you are describing (with the desktop oddities not the sound issue) are most likely the common problem that most of us using KDE4 have encountered... upgrading means that the rc and config files for KDE4 have changed big time between your previously running version (especially so if you were running 4.1 or earlier and moved to 4.3.x) and the new install. This introduces a bunch or conflicts and weirdness that can be traced directly back to how much things have changed. Once you "reset" that and start working with a clean config, KDE4 works reasonably well. Still has some hiccups, but so far on all the systems I run/support on KDE4, is working fine.
Renaming .kde(n) will do the reset... as will deleting or renaming the config files. Either way, you will be returned to a default config, and you should be able to tinker with your desktop settings, and it should be in a "production" state again.
C. Hi list and C.,
- I just renamed .kde and .kde4 to dot_kde and dot_kde4 respectively. - I then rename .kderc to dot_kderc. I go into runlevel 3. I log out, I log in. I startx. It says krunner crashed It says plasma crashed I get a new desktop (which I could get back into a normal state), but the problems remains... the most serious one being that the closing of one console crashes and causes all other open consoles to crash and close also. Not very productive :-) Can I zap KDE4 alltogether, log out and re-install KDE4 through YaST? -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Open Source Academy +45 56964223 Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Linux Counter no 114954 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
It says krunner crashed It says plasma crashed
I get a new desktop (which I could get back into a normal state), but the problems remains... the most serious one being that the closing of one console crashes and causes all other open consoles to crash and close also.
Not very productive :-)
This sounds a lot like an issue I bumped into in KDE4.2.something. I never reported it because by 4.3.whatever I'm running now... one of the RC's (can't check since I'm at the office right now).. it was corrected, and krunner and plasma are not crashing anymore. For KDE version... I use the One-Click install repos for the Factory version from the openSUSE Wiki. I've used these repos on several machines, and got consistent results - ie a reasonably stable and usable KDE4 desktop. It still has issues, but I use it everyday (for work and for home use eg gaming, websurfing etc) as do the other people I've set up on KDE4.
Can I zap KDE4 alltogether, log out and re-install KDE4 through YaST?
Sure, you can use YaST from the CLI at run level 3 :-) Not as pretty as the GUI version. Just remove all KDE4 and delete the KDE config files from your user home before you restart KDE4. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Clayton skrev:
It says krunner crashed It says plasma crashed
I get a new desktop (which I could get back into a normal state), but the problems remains... the most serious one being that the closing of one console crashes and causes all other open consoles to crash and close also.
Not very productive :-)
This sounds a lot like an issue I bumped into in KDE4.2.something. I never reported it because by 4.3.whatever I'm running now... one of the RC's (can't check since I'm at the office right now).. it was corrected, and krunner and plasma are not crashing anymore. For KDE version... I use the One-Click install repos for the Factory version from the openSUSE Wiki. I've used these repos on several machines, and got consistent results - ie a reasonably stable and usable KDE4 desktop. It still has issues, but I use it everyday (for work and for home use eg gaming, websurfing etc) as do the other people I've set up on KDE4.
Can I zap KDE4 alltogether, log out and re-install KDE4 through YaST?
Sure, you can use YaST from the CLI at run level 3 :-) Not as pretty as the GUI version. Just remove all KDE4 and delete the KDE config files from your user home before you restart KDE4.
C.
Hi List and C., - did as suggested in your last paragraph. Got my desktop back into a fine, useable state. No sound though...but I'll live. - thanks a LOT! - Like Mortimer an Randolph: "We're back" -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Open Source Academy +45 56964223 Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Linux Counter no 114954 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 10:07:23 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
- did as suggested in your last paragraph. Got my desktop back into a fine, useable state. No sound though...but I'll live.
- thanks a LOT!
- Like Mortimer an Randolph: "We're back"
If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 10:07:23 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
- did as suggested in your last paragraph. Got my desktop back into a fine, useable state. No sound though...but I'll live.
- thanks a LOT!
- Like Mortimer an Randolph: "We're back"
If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update.
Sven
Thanks a lot again! - As stated, I'm back in b - I did check what qt4 files are there, I got: libqt4-4.5.2-55.1 and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. I take it, that that's ok? One thing though...console has lost its menubar, how to I get it back? Best regards, - Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 10:07:23 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
- did as suggested in your last paragraph. Got my desktop back into a fine, useable state. No sound though...but I'll live.
- thanks a LOT!
- Like Mortimer an Randolph: "We're back" If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update.
Sven
Thanks a lot again! - As stated, I'm back in b
- I did check what qt4 files are there, I got:
libqt4-4.5.2-55.1
and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. I take it, that that's ok?
One thing though...console has lost its menubar, how to I get it back?
Best regards, - Verner Kjærsgaard
please disregard the last question, rightclick in console lets one re-select it... -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 12:51:27 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update.
- I did check what qt4 files are there, I got:
libqt4-4.5.2-55.1
and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. I take it, that that's ok?
If you use KDE 4.2 on 11.1 with any other than the official Qt version for 11.1 (4.4 from the official update repo), you take the risk of causing crashes by combining the KDE packages with a Qt version they have not been compiled against. Qt 4.5.x is only required and compiled against for KDE 4.3. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 12:51:27 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update.
- I did check what qt4 files are there, I got:
libqt4-4.5.2-55.1
and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. I take it, that that's ok?
If you use KDE 4.2 on 11.1 with any other than the official Qt version for 11.1 (4.4 from the official update repo), you take the risk of causing crashes by combining the KDE packages with a Qt version they have not been compiled against.
Qt 4.5.x is only required and compiled against for KDE 4.3.
Sven
Hi again and sorry for keeping on...but I'm slightly confused now. Although my desktop seems to be fine now (no sound though...but that's ok). This is my KDE (after I used YaST for cleaning up and updating/reinstalling LOTS of KDE4 stuff): Version 4.2.98 (KDE 4.2.98 (KDE 4.3 RC3)) "release 150" My repos are (I gave: zypper repos -u -P): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSU... http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/ http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home%3a/nadvornik%3a/geeqie/openSU... http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1 http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1 Of course I see that the KDE is not quite version 4.3, this confuses me...any suggestions? -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: > > Sven Burmeister skrev: >> Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 12:51:27 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard: >>>> If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt >>>> version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is >>>> <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and >>>> downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update. >>> - I did check what qt4 files are there, I got: >>> >>> libqt4-4.5.2-55.1 >>> and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. >>> I take it, that that's ok? >> If you use KDE 4.2 on 11.1 with any other than the official Qt version for >> 11.1 (4.4 from the official update repo), you take the risk of causing crashes >> by combining the KDE packages with a Qt version they have not been compiled >> against. >> >> Qt 4.5.x is only required and compiled against for KDE 4.3. >> >> Sven > > Hi again and sorry for keeping on...but I'm slightly confused now. > Although my desktop seems to be fine now (no sound though...but that's ok). [snip] Verner, have you uninstalled pulse? If not, do that, then run alsaconf from konsole as root. Fred -- Liberals ALWAYS, ALWAYS consider socialist dogma more important than telling the truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fred A. Miller skrev: > Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: >> Sven Burmeister skrev: >>> Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 12:51:27 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard: >>>>> If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt >>>>> version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is >>>>> <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and >>>>> downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update. >>>> - I did check what qt4 files are there, I got: >>>> >>>> libqt4-4.5.2-55.1 >>>> and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. >>>> I take it, that that's ok? >>> If you use KDE 4.2 on 11.1 with any other than the official Qt version for >>> 11.1 (4.4 from the official update repo), you take the risk of causing crashes >>> by combining the KDE packages with a Qt version they have not been compiled >>> against. >>> >>> Qt 4.5.x is only required and compiled against for KDE 4.3. >>> >>> Sven >> Hi again and sorry for keeping on...but I'm slightly confused now. >> Although my desktop seems to be fine now (no sound though...but that's ok). > > [snip] > > Verner, have you uninstalled pulse? If not, do that, then run alsaconf > from konsole as root. > > Fred > Hi list and Fred, - I did as instructed, no luck. - I've lost sound at the hardware level after the update from a couple of days ago. And to add insult to injury, KDE4 comes up after trying to configure sound (YaST) with a dialogbox saying "KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed." "Do you want KDE to permanently forget about the devices?" "This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed: Capture: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) Output: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) Output: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Digital) Output: HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital (IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output)" And then one may click yes/no or manage devices. I don't need to say nothing works. And...sond is ok in that other OS as it is ok in Ubuntu(live). And - it used to be ok in openSuSE11.1 too. With a small slider coming up when I press the volume keys and all. All is dead/died a couple of days ago. There must be a way in which one may completely zap all sound sw and re-install sound from scratch? Again, thanks for all help! -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Open Source Academy +45 56964223 Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Linux Counter no 114954 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 30 July 2009 19:37:21 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Fred A. Miller skrev:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 12:51:27 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt version is <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo you use and downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via online update.
- I did check what qt4 files are there, I got:
libqt4-4.5.2-55.1 and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. I take it, that that's ok?
If you use KDE 4.2 on 11.1 with any other than the official Qt version for 11.1 (4.4 from the official update repo), you take the risk of causing crashes by combining the KDE packages with a Qt version they have not been compiled against.
Qt 4.5.x is only required and compiled against for KDE 4.3.
Sven
Hi again and sorry for keeping on...but I'm slightly confused now. Although my desktop seems to be fine now (no sound though...but that's ok).
[snip]
Verner, have you uninstalled pulse? If not, do that, then run alsaconf from konsole as root.
Fred
Hi list and Fred,
- I did as instructed, no luck.
- I've lost sound at the hardware level after the update from a couple of days ago. And to add insult to injury, KDE4 comes up after trying to configure sound (YaST) with a dialogbox saying
"KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed." "Do you want KDE to permanently forget about the devices?" "This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed:
Capture: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) Output: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) Output: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Digital) Output: HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital (IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output)"
And then one may click yes/no or manage devices.
I don't need to say nothing works.
And...sond is ok in that other OS as it is ok in Ubuntu(live). And - it used to be ok in openSuSE11.1 too. With a small slider coming up when I press the volume keys and all.
All is dead/died a couple of days ago.
There must be a way in which one may completely zap all sound sw and re-install sound from scratch?
Again, thanks for all help!
Try opening kmix and see if the master volume has been muted Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.25-0.1-default, KDE 4.2.4 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bob Williams skrev:
On Thursday 30 July 2009 19:37:21 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Fred A. Miller skrev:
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Sven Burmeister skrev:
Am Donnerstag, 30. Juli 2009 12:51:27 schrieb Verner Kjærsgaard:
> If you have lots of crashes, check whether you are using the right Qt > version. With rpm -qa | grep qt4 you can check whether your Qt > version is <4.5. If it's not, then you have to get rid of the Qt repo > you use and downgrade to the official Qt 4.4 packages provided via > online update. - I did check what qt4 files are there, I got:
libqt4-4.5.2-55.1 and others too, all with the 4-4.5.2 numbers. I take it, that that's ok? If you use KDE 4.2 on 11.1 with any other than the official Qt version for 11.1 (4.4 from the official update repo), you take the risk of causing crashes by combining the KDE packages with a Qt version they have not been compiled against.
Qt 4.5.x is only required and compiled against for KDE 4.3.
Sven Hi again and sorry for keeping on...but I'm slightly confused now. Although my desktop seems to be fine now (no sound though...but that's ok). [snip]
Verner, have you uninstalled pulse? If not, do that, then run alsaconf from konsole as root.
Fred Hi list and Fred,
- I did as instructed, no luck.
- I've lost sound at the hardware level after the update from a couple of days ago. And to add insult to injury, KDE4 comes up after trying to configure sound (YaST) with a dialogbox saying
"KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed." "Do you want KDE to permanently forget about the devices?" "This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed:
Capture: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) Output: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) Output: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Digital) Output: HDA Intel, STAC92xx Digital (IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output)"
And then one may click yes/no or manage devices.
I don't need to say nothing works.
And...sond is ok in that other OS as it is ok in Ubuntu(live). And - it used to be ok in openSuSE11.1 too. With a small slider coming up when I press the volume keys and all.
All is dead/died a couple of days ago.
There must be a way in which one may completely zap all sound sw and re-install sound from scratch?
Again, thanks for all help!
Try opening kmix and see if the master volume has been muted
Bob
Hi list and Bob, - opened a shell, did "kmix". Command not found. -oh...so I open up YaST and search for kmix. It finds two, none is installed. There is one kmix4 and one kmix. I'd think it should be kmix4, but that one wants to downgrade A LOT of packages, in fact about 173 packages... It says something like: "kmix-4.2.98-67.5.i586 demands kdebase4-runtime >= 4.2.98, but this cannot be fullfilled" It then suggest to downgrade about 173 other packages...I start to believe that openSuSE11.1 (and the latest automatic online update) has a serious problem. As to KDE4. Just a rant :-) Kmix, however, installs fine. But then in a shell, I run kmix: vk@linux-vg22:~> kmix <unknown program name>(15741)/: Communication problem with "kmix" , it probably crashed. Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." " eh...any ideas? -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Open Source Academy +45 56964223 Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Linux Counter no 114954 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
[snip]
it keeps getting worse... I purchased Zend Studio v5.5 a long time ago. It's my primary editor. In which ctrl+c and ctrl+insert no longer works after this stupid update. I just realized. Copy and paste works in all other applications. What on earth...any ideas exept for a complete re-install? -- ------------------------------ Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:30:33 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
[snip]
it keeps getting worse...
I purchased Zend Studio v5.5 a long time ago. It's my primary editor.
In which ctrl+c and ctrl+insert no longer works after this stupid update. I just realized. Copy and paste works in all other applications.
What on earth...any ideas exept for a complete re-install?
Verner, I had problems with sound from applications getting lost after the most recent factory kernel update (that's what I get for running on the bleeding edge ;-) ). I downgraded my kernel to 2.6.30-2.1 and all works again (my MB uses the Intel HDA sound driver module also). Seems there may be a problem with the Intel sound module in kernels later than 2.6.30-2.1; either that or some library is incompatible and not yet updated. I'm going to stick with what is currently working until a couple more updates have gone by and then try again... Cheers, Rodney. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I've just updated to OpenSuSE 11.1 and noticed that the version of gdm it contains lacks many features, so I wanted to replace it with xdm. Previously I used gdm to have three workstations running X servers and display a host chooser on their displays, so that on each of the three machines there was a list displayed containing all three of them, and one was able to log into any of them from there. With gdm it was pretty straightforward, but I'm having problems to configure a similar chooser logins with xdm. Does anyone have a working xdm configuration that works similarly? Any help would be appreciated. Adam -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:34:24AM -0700, Adam Naumowicz wrote:
I've just updated to OpenSuSE 11.1 and noticed that the version of gdm it contains lacks many features, so I wanted to replace it with xdm. Previously I used gdm to have three workstations running X servers and display a host chooser on their displays, so that on each of the three machines there was a list displayed containing all three of them, and one was able to log into any of them from there. With gdm it was pretty straightforward, but I'm having problems to configure a similar chooser logins with xdm. Does anyone have a working xdm configuration that works similarly? Any help would be appreciated.
Check /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager ... set DISPLAYMANAGER_REMOTE_ACCESS to "yes" and if you want to allow root you should also set DISPLAYMANAGER_ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE to "yes" ... then run /etc/X11/xdm/SuSEconfig.xdm now have a look into /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess ... you should have at least a wildcard in the line for CHOOSER and BROADCAST. After all you should restart xdm. With e.g. X :1 -indirekt host should should be able to connect where "host" is the name of the host you have checked. With X :1 -broadcast all X servers providing XDMCP will be shown. Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rodney Baker skrev:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:30:33 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev:
[snip]
Verner,
I had problems with sound from applications getting lost after the most recent factory kernel update (that's what I get for running on the bleeding edge ;-) ).
I downgraded my kernel to 2.6.30-2.1 and all works again (my MB uses the Intel HDA sound driver module also). Seems there may be a problem with the Intel sound module in kernels later than 2.6.30-2.1; either that or some library is incompatible and not yet updated.
I'm going to stick with what is currently working until a couple more updates have gone by and then try again...
Cheers, Rodney.
Hi Rodney and list, - thanks for all answers! - I'm a little confused here, you see uname -r 2.6.27.25-0.1-default seems to be my kernel... But the main thing is, I'm back in production using Eclipse as my main editor. My ZEND Studio 5.5 doesn't (anymore) allow me to copy and paste. That is, it works the first time and subsequently the functionality of ctrl+c and so forth doesn't work. Strange. But never mind now. Eclipse is fine. I'll go with 11.2 when it comes out, it can't be any worse than this :-) -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Open Source Academy +45 56964223 Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Linux Counter no 114954 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi again and sorry for keeping on...but I'm slightly confused now.
That's what the mailing list is for :-) asking questions.
Version 4.2.98 (KDE 4.2.98 (KDE 4.3 RC3)) "release 150"
Of course I see that the KDE is not quite version 4.3, this confuses me...any suggestions?
You're at the latest factory build. The 4.2.98 version is the KDE4.3 release candidate. It will be 4.3.0 soon when the RCs are done their testing phase. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Thanks A LOT! - I'll get back with a solved if this cures it. But it indeed seems very likely. My repos priority were messed up. Fixed it now, will keep you posted!
Go to yast > hardware > sound. Edit your sound card and choose Reset all. If kde4 asks to drop certain devices, let it. Afterwards, check kmix mixer and make sure nothing is muted that shouldn't be. That usually fixes sound problems for me. Goodluck. Nkoli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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