Re: [opensuse] AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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>>> Reply on 03-11-2006 9:31:52 <<<> So far I think it is VERY beneficial for Linux, > 1. Microsoft is giving away 70.000 SUSE Linux Enterprise coupons > 2. Microsoft is backing up (legally speaking) the MONO, Samba and Open > Office projects and any Open Source programmer or company that works on > > OpenSuse.org projects. > 3. Microsoft is telling everybody that if they want to use Linux they > support SUSE Linux! > 4. They are jointly developing Open Source Virtualization software > > Could it be better? > I'm not sure Microsoft's intention is to have something good for openSUSE or not. Ok: they say to support this one. On the other hand, I think this is a VERY dangerous step for Novell! Not only do they have openSUSE! They have a LOT more that could be interesting for Microsoft! Technically spoken: - Microsoft tried to build a solid Directory Structur (Active Directory) which unfortunately is everything else than scalable. => Novell HAS a Directory Structure (called eDirectory) that will be VERY interesting! And the best: It already runs on Windows! So MS might just rip it off and include it in Windows => no more sales of eDir (BAD) - Microsoft is still trying to do something good for Identity Management => Microsoft HAS IDM. The same applies as above. Sure, openSUSE can profit from the 'right' to implement Mono, Samba AND MAYBE WE EVEN CAN START A DIRECTX Project! THAT would be GREAT. BUT all of this might be of very short fun, if Novell did a mistake by this agreement. For the moment, when watching the share market, it seems to be good: an increase of almost 16% on the NOVL shares in the last 24 hours. Let's hope this keeps up. I wish the best for Novell! It would be a pity to loose this company to MS. Regards, Dominique
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Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > >>> Reply on 03-11-2006 9:31:52 <<<> So far I think it is VERY > beneficial for Linux, > > 1. Microsoft is giving away 70.000 SUSE Linux Enterprise coupons > > 2. Microsoft is backing up (legally speaking) the MONO, Samba and Open > > Office projects and any Open Source programmer or company that works on > > > > OpenSuse.org projects. > > 3. Microsoft is telling everybody that if they want to use Linux they > > support SUSE Linux! > > 4. They are jointly developing Open Source Virtualization software > > > > Could it be better? > > > I'm not sure Microsoft's intention is to have something good for > openSUSE or not. Ok: they say to support this one. > > On the other hand, I think this is a VERY dangerous step for Novell! > Not only do they have openSUSE! They have a LOT more that could be > interesting for Microsoft! > > Technically spoken: > - Microsoft tried to build a solid Directory Structur (Active > Directory) which unfortunately is everything else than scalable. > => Novell HAS a Directory Structure (called eDirectory) that will be > VERY interesting! And the best: It already runs on Windows! So MS > might just rip it off and include it in Windows => no more sales of > eDir (BAD) > > - Microsoft is still trying to do something good for Identity Management > => Microsoft HAS IDM. The same applies as above. > > Sure, openSUSE can profit from the 'right' to implement Mono, Samba > AND MAYBE WE EVEN CAN START A DIRECTX Project! THAT would be GREAT. > They already started developing XNA which is the new game developing framework for Xbox 360 and Windows and replaces Managed DirectX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_XNA http://www.taoframework.com/Mono.Xna > BUT all of this might be of very short fun, if Novell did a mistake by > this agreement. For the moment, when watching the share market, it > seems to be good: an increase of almost 16% on the NOVL shares in the > last 24 hours. Let's hope this keeps up. > > I wish the best for Novell! It would be a pity to loose this company > to MS. > I Agree, but if Novell is smart enough it could take advantage of this opportunity and play it right. It could be very beneficial for the Linux operating system. Not everything from Microsoft is evil! (some won't agree with this) this could be the chance for Linux developers to implement everything which is "good" from Microsoft to the Linux OS without the legal hassle (have you seen WPF and .NET framework 3.0? it's very nice or XNA as examples, Microsoft invested millions developing these technologies). We (linux users and developers) could be the winners in this equation. David. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Am Freitag, 3. November 2006 11:26 schrieb David Canar:
Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
Reply on 03-11-2006 9:31:52 <<<> So far I think it is VERY
beneficial for Linux,
1. Microsoft is giving away 70.000 SUSE Linux Enterprise coupons 2. Microsoft is backing up (legally speaking) the MONO, Samba and Open Office projects and any Open Source programmer or company that works on
OpenSuse.org projects. 3. Microsoft is telling everybody that if they want to use Linux they support SUSE Linux! 4. They are jointly developing Open Source Virtualization software
Could it be better?
I guess most of us agree, that this news seem to be good for Novell and for Suse Linux en generale. The question is: how about the others? - Will this agreement make the gap between Suse and the rest of linux developers bigger? If there was no such gap, will there be one? - Will the communtiy really profit from all advatages, Novell gets trough this partnership, or is it just Suse Linux Enterprise? - Will Open Document have a chance, if Novell is going to push Open XML in OpenOffice? (correct me, if I'm wrong with this statement) Quote: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/nov06/11-02MSNovellPR.mspx "Second, Microsoft will not assert its patents against individual noncommercial open source developers. And third, Microsoft is promising not to assert its patents against individual contributors to OpenSUSE.org whose code is included in the SUSE Linux Enterprise platform, including SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop." - Why are there 2 different points in the patent question? Will there be a difference between OpenSUSE and Suse Linux Enterprise? What about contributors to OpenSUSE.org whose code is _not_ included in the SUSE Linux Enterprise platform? Are they covered by the second statement? If you could these questions and answers to the faq, it would be nice. -- Üdvözlettel -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Marcel Hilzinger --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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David Canar
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Dominique Leuenberger
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Marcel Hilzinger