any new color laser printers?
did Santa or a lover deliver a great new color laser that speaks to Linux??? -- Gracia...Cooleemee, NC Registered Linux user #263390 - SuSE 10 Pro My country, right or wrong. If right, to be kept right, if wrong, to be put right.
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 04:29, Gracia M. Littauer wrote:
did Santa or a lover deliver a great new color laser that speaks to Linux???
You could have a look at the Samsung CLP-550N. I have been using one for the past 8 months without any problems. Samsung provide drivers for CUPS with the printer. -- Regards, Graham Smith
Graham, On Monday 02 January 2006 17:35, Graham Smith wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 04:29, Gracia M. Littauer wrote:
did Santa or a lover deliver a great new color laser that speaks to Linux???
You could have a look at the Samsung CLP-550N. I have been using one for the past 8 months without any problems. Samsung provide drivers for CUPS with the printer.
That looks like a great printer. I has pretty much everything I've been looking for. I could do without color, though. I'll have to check if they have a monochrome counterpart. I am curious about how much noise it generates. Are you using it in a home setting, or in the office? Do you work in close proximity to the device? If so, is the noise it produces tolerable? Can you hear it at all when it's idling?
Graham Smith
Randall Schulz
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 13:06, Randall R Schulz wrote:
You could have a look at the Samsung CLP-550N. I have been using one for the past 8 months without any problems. Samsung provide drivers for CUPS with the printer.
That looks like a great printer. I has pretty much everything I've been looking for. I could do without color, though. I'll have to check if they have a monochrome counterpart.
I am curious about how much noise it generates. Are you using it in a home setting, or in the office? Do you work in close proximity to the device? If so, is the noise it produces tolerable? Can you hear it at all when it's idling?
I'm using in a home/office environment, I purchased it because of the reports I generate for clients. There are a large number of colour pages which use to take ages do using inkjet. Also the duplex saves on paper and binding. Be aware that there is a cheaper model which I'm not sure works as well with Linux. I generally go for a network printer when I'm unsure how well it works with Linux. There is no noise when idle. When printing it is not that bad, I can still talk on the phone and with the printer basically next to me. If you are after monochrome laser printers I suggest you can't go past Kyocera. They have the lowest per page cost of all of the laser printers. They are postscript printers or emulate HP PCL so they work without any problems with Linux. -- Regards, Graham Smith
Graham, On Monday 02 January 2006 20:31, Graham Smith wrote:
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If you are after monochrome laser printers I suggest you can't go past Kyocera. They have the lowest per page cost of all of the laser printers. They are postscript printers or emulate HP PCL so they work without any problems with Linux.
Yikes. How could I have overlooked that! I definitely want PostScript. I'll check out Kyocera. Thanks for the other information, too.
Graham Smith
Randall Schulz
Hello, On Jan 3 15:31 Graham Smith wrote (shortened):
If you are after monochrome laser printers I suggest you can't go past Kyocera. They have the lowest per page cost of all of the laser printers. They are postscript printers or emulate HP PCL so they work without any problems with Linux.
As far as I know there is at least one newer Kyocera printer series which includes at least one cheaper model which doesn't support PCL5e. In general see http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2000/08/jsmeix_print-kompatibel.html Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/
On Monday 02 January 2006 23:31, Graham Smith wrote:
I am curious about how much noise it generates. Are you using it in a home setting, or in the office? Do you work in close proximity to the device? If so, is the noise it produces tolerable? Can you hear it at all when it's idling?
I'm using in a home/office environment, I purchased it because of the reports I generate for clients. There are a large number of colour pages which use to take ages do using inkjet. Also the duplex saves on paper and binding.
Be aware that there is a cheaper model which I'm not sure works as well with Linux. I generally go for a network printer when I'm unsure how well it works with Linux.
There is no noise when idle. When printing it is not that bad, I can still talk on the phone and with the printer basically next to me.
Does the Samsung support postscript natively?
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 06:52 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Does the Samsung support postscript natively?
The one mentioned, Samsung CLP-550N, does not support it at all. What do you mean by "natively?"
"Emulation PostScript3, PCL6 **** compatible" "OS Compatibility PostScript3(PPD) (Windows 95/98/Me/NT4.0/2000/XP, Various Linux OS, Mac OS 8.6~9.2/10.1~10.3) Samsung proprietary driver (Windows 95/98/Me/NT4.0/2000/XP)" http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/printers/colourprinters/clp_550nxeu.asp?p... Cheers, Dave
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:59, Dave Howorth wrote:
The one mentioned, Samsung CLP-550N, does not support it at all. What do you mean by "natively?"
"Emulation PostScript3, PCL6 **** compatible"
"OS Compatibility PostScript3(PPD) (Windows 95/98/Me/NT4.0/2000/XP, Various Linux OS, Mac OS 8.6~9.2/10.1~10.3) Samsung proprietary driver (Windows 95/98/Me/NT4.0/2000/XP)"
http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/printers/colourprinters/clp_550nxeu.asp? page=Specifications
Now that is *some* nice printer... (as they say in Maine) I didn't find any Kyocera color lasers for less than $1,500 and I don't think that one had duplexing standard....
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 01:52, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Bruce,
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 05:03, Bruce Marshall wrote:
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Does the Samsung support postscript natively?
The one mentioned, Samsung CLP-550N, does not support it at all. What do you mean by "natively?"
Sorry to correct you but the printer does support Postscript 3 and PCL 6 natively. The specifications can be found here http://tinyurl.com/8u25m or http://www.samsung.com/Products/PrinterandMultifunction/ColorLaserPrinters/C... -- Regards, Graham Smith
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:52, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Bruce,
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 05:03, Bruce Marshall wrote:
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Does the Samsung support postscript natively?
The one mentioned, Samsung CLP-550N, does not support it at all. What do you mean by "natively?"
Meaning that the printer itself can handle PS as opposed to using CUPS for translation.... (yeh I know, *almost* any printer should do it through CUPS)
Bruce, On Tuesday 03 January 2006 07:24, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:52, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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The one mentioned, Samsung CLP-550N, does not support it at all. What do you mean by "natively?"
Meaning that the printer itself can handle PS as opposed to using CUPS for translation.... (yeh I know, *almost* any printer should do it through CUPS)
A printer that does not include its own PostScript interpreter is, plain and simple, not a PostScript printer. Randall Schulz
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 10:35, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Bruce,
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 07:24, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:52, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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The one mentioned, Samsung CLP-550N, does not support it at all. What do you mean by "natively?"
Meaning that the printer itself can handle PS as opposed to using CUPS for translation.... (yeh I know, *almost* any printer should do it through CUPS)
A printer that does not include its own PostScript interpreter is, plain and simple, not a PostScript printer.
Yes... so??
Bruce, On Tuesday 03 January 2006 07:44, Bruce Marshall wrote:
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A printer that does not include its own PostScript interpreter is, plain and simple, not a PostScript printer.
Yes... so??
So... This Samsung printer is _not_ a PostScript printer as you originally inquired (you did say "natively"). Randall Schulz
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 10:55, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Bruce,
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 07:44, Bruce Marshall wrote:
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A printer that does not include its own PostScript interpreter is, plain and simple, not a PostScript printer.
Yes... so??
So... This Samsung printer is _not_ a PostScript printer as you originally inquired (you did say "natively").
It appears to support Postscript3 as well as PCL6. What does that make it? Not trying to be argumentative here but it *does* seem to be a 'postscript printer'.
Bruce, On Tuesday 03 January 2006 08:28, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 10:55, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Bruce,
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 07:44, Bruce Marshall wrote:
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A printer that does not include its own PostScript interpreter is, plain and simple, not a PostScript printer.
Yes... so??
So... This Samsung printer is _not_ a PostScript printer as you originally inquired (you did say "natively").
It appears to support Postscript3 as well as PCL6. What does that make it?
Not trying to be argumentative here but it *does* seem to be a 'postscript printer'.
You very specifically asked whether the support was "native." It is not. It is "emulated," meaning the driver in the host computer interprets the PostScript and sends something else (bit-maps, probably) to the printer. It is _not_ a PostScript printer. If you send it PostScript, it will not interpret it and render the pages described by that PostScript. If anything, it will print it as text or try (and fail, not doubt) to interpret it as its native page description language, which is presumably HP PCL. If you don't care whether the support was native, fine, but that's not what you asked. Randall Schulz
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 11:40, Randall R Schulz wrote:
You very specifically asked whether the support was "native." It is not. It is "emulated," meaning the driver in the host computer interprets the PostScript and sends something else (bit-maps, probably) to the printer.
It is _not_ a PostScript printer. If you send it PostScript, it will not interpret it and render the pages described by that PostScript. If anything, it will print it as text or try (and fail, not doubt) to interpret it as its native page description language, which is presumably HP PCL.
Gotcha now.... It is not apparent from the writeups exactly how the PS is done.....
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 10:55, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Bruce,
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 07:44, Bruce Marshall wrote:
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A printer that does not include its own PostScript interpreter is, plain and simple, not a PostScript printer.
Yes... so??
So... This Samsung printer is _not_ a PostScript printer as you originally inquired (you did say "natively").
It appears to support Postscript3 as well as PCL6. What does that make it? ...
I bought a Samsung 510N about half a year ago based on Samsung's claim that it was linux supported and supported postscript. Well, I got it to work eventually by using Samsung's driver on a 32 bit linux install. The Samsung driver did not work on my 64bit AMD system at all. Without it there was no way to address the printer from linux. So, right now, it works for me by setting the driver up in a virtual machine that runs SuSE Linux 10.0 (32bit version). The vmware virtual machine runs on my 64bit AMD and acts as a networked print server. As you may imagine it took me quite some time to set up this twisted arrangement. Also, I found that while Samsung is cheap initially, the print toner is extremely expensive, and I have gone through the initial admittedly smaller color cartridges within 5-6 months. I'd probably take a much closer look if I had to buy again. Best regards, Alex.
Graham Smith wrote:
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 04:29, Gracia M. Littauer wrote:
did Santa or a lover deliver a great new color laser that speaks to Linux???
You could have a look at the Samsung CLP-550N. I have been using one for the past 8 months without any problems. Samsung provide drivers for CUPS with the printer.
I have a konica-minolta magicolor 2430dl. It has linux drivers on the install cd. I have had no problems.
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